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The Irish Genocide 1845-1852
titanic1
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The Irish Genocide 1845-1852
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpwKEXg2StE

A controversial look at how the "Great Potato Famine" of Ireland in the 19th century. It was not a famine as there was plenty of food other than potatoes. The British government stood idly by and let millions of Irish die in what is now being called genocide.

A blight upon the potatoes of Ireland forever changed the histories of Ireland, England, and the United States of America. The blight that we now know was a water mold (and not a fungus as originally believed), Phytophthora infestans, attacked the cash crop of the Irish Catholic peasant farmer. This was the crop with which the Irish paid their rent to the English and Protestant landlords.

Starving Irish peasants tried to eat the rotten potatoes and fell ill to cholera and typhus and whole villages were struck down. Many landlords evicted the starving tenants who could be found dying on sides of roads with mouths green from eating grass to fill their bellies. Other families were sent to workhouses where the overcrowding and poor conditions led to more starvation, sickness, and ultimately death. Going to a workhouse was akin to marching to one's own death. Some more sympathetic landlords paid the passage for their tenants to emigrate to America, Canada, and Australia. Ship owners took advantage of the situation and wedged hundreds of diseased and desperate Irish into ships that were hardly sea-worthy for the Trans-Atlantic trip. These ships became known as "coffin ships" as more than one-third of the passengers died on the voyage.

The Irish that did survive the trip to America, Canada, or Australia on the coffin ships drummed up awareness and more importantly, aid in the form of food. But for every one ship sailing into Ireland with food, more were exporting grain-based alcohol, wool and flax, and other necessities such as wheat, oats, barley, butter, eggs, beef, and pork that could have helped feed the Irish people. The Irish themselves were accused of bringing the famine on themselves as they were viewed as a lazy, overpopulated race of people - never mind that they were not legally able to fish or hunt under British law. They starved in the midst of plenty because they were not allowed to provide for themselves and their families by any means other than agriculture.

The Famine, or An Górta Mór, the Great Hunger, took more than one million lives, between those that died of starvation and those that left Ireland for a better life in America or elsewhere in the world. Those who were left behind in Ireland experienced a desperation that led to a massive change in politics and nationalism - it was only a few years later, in 1858 that the Irish Republican Brotherhood was founded. The British government and the British and Irish Protestant landowners still required the Irish peasants and laborers to pay their rent for the land they could not work due to the blight and the hunger upon them. In a lush island surrounded by water teaming with fish and land that fattened pig and cattle alike, how could one failed crop cause a Famine? According to British law, Irish Catholics could not apply for fishing or hunting licenses. Their pigs and cattle were sent to England to feed the British and to export for trade, while the landlords kept the fine cuts for themselves. Ireland was part of the British Empire, the most powerful empire in the world at that time - yet the British government stood by and did nothing to help their subjects overcome this hardship. In our time, an enforced famine such as this would be labeled genocide yet in the 1800s it was merely an unfortunate tragedy. As defined in the United Nation's 1948 Genocide Convention and the 1987 Genocide Convention Implementation Act, the legal definition of genocide is any of the acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, including by killing its members; causing them serious bodily or mental harm; deliberately inflicting on a group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; and forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. The British policy of mass starvation inflicted on Ireland from 1845 to 1850 constituted "genocide" against the Irish People as legally defined by the United Nations. A quote by John Mitchell (who published The United Irishman) states that "The Almighty indeed sent the potato blight, but the English created the Famine.

http://www.irishhistorylinks.net/History...ocide.html

According to historian Chris Fogarty,
the "Irish Potato Famine" which killed over five million people
was not a famine but a deliberate British policy of starvation similar to the
Holomodor in the Ukraine in 1932-33.

I grew up thinking that the Irish famine was a natural catastrophe caused by crop failure; the Irish were guilty of only cultivating only one crop-- potatoes.

While Chris Fogarty was researching the biography of his paternal grandfather at the National Archives, he uncovered a policy of genocide . The truth is startling: 67 out of 130 regiments of Britain's Empire army were in Ireland during this period (100,000 at any one time). The troops were not on a humanitarian mission. Their job was to remove food by force.

The nation starved as its food was confiscated, 40-70 shiploads a day were removed at gunpoint assisted by British constables, militia and troops. They seized tens of millions head of livestock, tens of millions of tons flour, grains and poultry. These vast quantities were more than enough to feed 18 million people.

The first lie was that the famine was due to the failure of the potato crop. When the quantity of exported Irish foodstuffs could no longer be concealed, the second lie was that the rich Irish were starving the poor Irish. G.B. Shaw wrote in Man and Superman 1897: "The Famine? No, the Starvation. When a country is full of food and exporting it, there can be no Famine."'


- See more at: https://www.henrymakow.com/2015/06/irish...zr8CL.dpuf
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RE: The Irish Genocide 1845-1852
The question is, Who was responsible.
The Catholics were putting on a civil war in USA at that time. They used the Irish Catholics to fight for the north.
Then we can look for Catholics behind Irish famine. In fact the Jesuits were running UK. Russel was a Jesuit/Templar.
http://www.reformation.org/irish_famine.html



There has been a lot of killing in Ireland. The Catholics massacred the Protestants in 1641
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/pla...es10.shtml
Right after the French Catholics did the same
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Bartho...y_massacre

Thus the Jesuits were banned.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppressio...y_of_Jesus
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RE: The Irish Genocide 1845-1852
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RE: The Irish Genocide 1845-1852
Bates
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RE: The Irish Genocide 1845-1852
This is actually a pretty important thing for people to know. I wasn't even aware of it myself until 5 or 6 years ago. I actually assumed it was some period in time where the potatoes just..."didn't grow".

It's really unfortunate it's known AS a "potato famine". Because, as stated in Titanic1's initial post, it really was so much closer to a genocide.

The accounts of Irish families starving while watching the food they just produced sailing off towards England is some of the most harrowing stuff I've ever read. It makes you want to jump in a time machine, go back and beat the sh*t out of these son-of-a-b1tch landowners who ruthlessly exploited these Irish workers.

I recall reading on the Wikipedia-article of the Potato "Famine", I think, an account of some English nobleman (who was somehow enriching himself off this exploitation) recording in his journal how he felt if the Irish were suffering then it must be God's will that they suffer. Or something to that effect.

He was ruthlessly rationalizing away his own culpability.

These are things it's important to remember.

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RE: The Irish Genocide 1845-1852
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-21-2017 05:12 AM)
The question is, Who was responsible.
The Catholics were putting on a civil war in USA at that time. They used the Irish Catholics to fight for the north.
Then we can look for Catholics behind Irish famine. In fact the Jesuits were running UK. Russel was a Jesuit/Templar.
http://www.reformation.org/irish_famine.html



There has been a lot of killing in Ireland. The Catholics massacred the Protestants in 1641
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/pla...es10.shtml
Right after the French Catholics did the same
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Bartho...y_massacre

Thus the Jesuits were banned.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppressio...y_of_Jesus

The Irish love to blame the British. It suits their victim narrative. The ugly truth: British landlords were mostly absent. Irish managers of the estates were the ones primarily responsible for the starvation and so on.

Easier to blame an outside enemy than the one of your own even though most of the time traitors are deadlier than invaders.
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RE: The Irish Genocide 1845-1852
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-21-2017 05:58 AM)
Easier to blame an outside enemy than the one of your own even though most of the time traitors are deadlier than invaders.

America's problem in a nutshell:

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.” - Marcus Tullius Cicero
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crashtard  Wrote: (04-21-2017 05:26 AM)
Bates

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RE: The Irish Genocide 1845-1852
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-21-2017 10:46 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-21-2017 05:58 AM)
Easier to blame an outside enemy than the one of your own even though most of the time traitors are deadlier than invaders.

America's problem in a nutshell:

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.” - Marcus Tullius Cicero

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Let's not forget, this famine was caused by genetic engineering. We humans created a single strain of potato through selective breeding and cloning, eventually to the point where all the potatos in ireland were basically clones.

Introduce a fungus that learns how to be a pathogen for those clones, and you are set up for a catastrophe.

Fast forward a couple hundred years, and all our bananas are basically clones. Not to mention how many other plants and vegetables. Animals are next to engineer on the horizon now that crispr and gene editing tools are easily available.

Kinda makes bio-weapons like engineered viruses and fungus that much more dangerous too.
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Channelings said that was the first genocide done by the cabal. Where they tried with success many things they use now: poisoning and then atributing the deaths to other causes, for example.
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You would think those Micks would like eating things that made them turn green.
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"The Famine? No, the Starvation. When a country is full of food and exporting it, there can be no Famine."'

We still have those bastards in Ireland today. Corrupt politicians, a church that..... Well, we all know about that f*cking lie of a religion and what it has done to the Irish.

The second culling has started in the guise of cancer. The rise of this in Ireland in the last year and a half is startling to say the least.

The same family that was in control back then and was responsible for the diversion, and theft of food are still in control today. The of course are The Rothschilds.

Ireland is on the verge of uprising again, the corruption and unfair society that exists here HAS to be destroyed.
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retards. they are retarded is the problem. go talk to one and you will understand.

he'll fight yas fer nuttin'
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There's a Mick on Dad's side that came from that period . His Mother was raped by an English " Nobleman " , of a still well known and esteemed Family . When He found out who His Father was and the Circumstance of His conception , He took the Lord's Name as His own claiming open Bastardship .

That didn't go over too well with the still landed Lord's progeny . He got out of Ireland just ahead of the Law and made it to America . The Rest is Family History into Texas Territories .

PS : English were taking every above ground crop . Irish were left with roots . Potatoes are one of the few staples that will sustain a body all by itself .

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