LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 04:00 PM)

Is that any different than any other president in the last 50 years?

Yeah, it's way different, honestly.

Ms Johanna Strange  Wrote: (12-06-2018 04:01 PM)

Yeah, it's way different, honestly.

What makes you think that?

I am trying to understand your viewpoint

LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 04:02 PM)

What makes you think that?

I am trying to understand your viewpoint

OP gave just a few examples.

I'll also just bring up the example of Trump's long friendship with pedophiles and that he was accused of child rape. Add to that his disgusting comments about and groping of his own daughters, and those of us who aren't in the cult are left completely bewildered why the same people who screech about nonexistent pizzagate make excuses for his obvious sexual perversion and human trafficking.

LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 04:08 PM)

OP gave just a few examples.

I'll also just bring up the example of Trump's long friendship with pedophiles and that he was accused of child rape. Add to that his disgusting comments about and groping of his own daughters, and those of us who aren't in the cult are left completely bewildered why the same people who screech about nonexistent pizzagate make excuses for his obvious sexual perversion and human trafficking.

That was also true of Bill Clinton

I'm making money so I support him. If you can't beat them, join them. And surely the deluded masses will never beat the elites at this rate.

LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 04:15 PM)

I'm making money so I support him. If you can't beat them, join them. And surely the deluded masses will never beat the elites at this rate.

Aaaaand there it is. "i got mine so screw you" should be the GOP motto.

Give it a few months. Trump is crashing the economy for his puppetmasters in Russia and Saudi Arabia. This time I hope people will remember who is REALLY responsible, but i doubt it.

Look, as a democrat, I will gladly admit Obama was a good president, but maybe not a great president. He has some failings as president. He screwed some things up.

However, the people who still support Trump are delusional. Every president has done something wrong, no one is a saint. But in their eyes, Trump literally cannot do anything wrong.

These people criticized Obama and his family for the entire duration of his presidency, but when the shoe was on the other foot, every similar shortcoming Trump had was excusable.

Obama took vacations. Every president has, but he was lambasted constantly for "vacationing too much". Never mind the fact George W. Bush took over 500 vacation days, seldom mentioned.

Trump said as President, that he would not have time to vacation, he would be way to busy helping the country.

Well guess what? He has gone on vacations, lots of them in fact. In fact, he spent nearly 30% of his 1st year as president at Trump owned properties.

So now, the excuses fly.

"He is working when he goes to his his properties". OK, fair enough, but every time he decides to leave the WH, it costs me and you money. So far that amount has come to over 80 million dollars.

The whole time Obama was in office, 8 years, the total taxpayers spent on vacations was around 100 million dollars. Trump has not been in office 2 years, and has already spent about 37 million on flights to Mar a Lago. By the time he has 2 years in, that number will be close to half of what the Obama's spent, with trump spending it in 1/4th as short of time.

Each trip to Trump's Mar a Lago costs over 3 million dollars in fuel and secret service protection.

If we put vacations aside, morals come into play as well, modestly specifically.

If you recall, around 2009 Michelle Obama was criticized heavily for wearing a dress with bare arms. How provocative, right?

Well, as many already know, the current 1st lady, Melania posed naked. But again, more silence from the right. I guess this excuses her behavior?

I could go on all day about this, but the point is, somehow these people can find no fault in Trump's work, and any readily apparent mistake he made is somehow given a half-assed excuse by the right.

LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 04:15 PM)

I'm making money so I support him. If you can't beat them, join them. And surely the deluded masses will never beat the elites at this rate.

Aaaaand there it is. "i got mine so screw you" should be the GOP motto.

Give it a few months. Trump is crashing the economy for his puppetmasters in Russia and Saudi Arabia. This time I hope people will remember who is REALLY responsible, but i doubt it.

We have allowed our government to allocate 90k on golf cars ALONE at Mar a Lago during Christmas vacation. We are allowing our tax dollars to go towards golf carts the secret service uses while protecting Trump, that he could rent out for free, which then goes back into Trump’s pocket. This is just for golf carts and doesn’t include the rooms for the secret service to protect him at Mar a Lago which again goes right back into Trump’s pocket.

Trump has done this more than a dozen times. The hypocrisy is rich, literally.

LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-06-2018 04:00 PM)

Is that any different than any other president in the last 50 years?

Yes, in fact, it is. Trump is a series of scandals, one after the other after the other, and is a traitor. Yet cult45 still continues to worship him.

King Doom  Wrote: (12-06-2018 03:39 PM)

Look, as a democrat, I will gladly admit Obama was a good president, but maybe not a great president. He has some failings as president. He screwed some things up.

However, the people who still support Trump are delusional. Every president has done something wrong, no one is a saint. But in their eyes, Trump literally cannot do anything wrong.

These people criticized Obama and his family for the entire duration of his presidency, but when the shoe was on the other foot, every similar shortcoming Trump had was excusable.

Obama took vacations. Every president has, but he was lambasted constantly for "vacationing too much". Never mind the fact George W. Bush took over 500 vacation days, seldom mentioned.

Trump said as President, that he would not have time to vacation, he would be way to busy helping the country.

Well guess what? He has gone on vacations, lots of them in fact. In fact, he spent nearly 30% of his 1st year as president at Trump owned properties.

So now, the excuses fly.

"He is working when he goes to his his properties". OK, fair enough, but every time he decides to leave the WH, it costs me and you money. So far that amount has come to over 80 million dollars.

The whole time Obama was in office, 8 years, the total taxpayers spent on vacations was around 100 million dollars. Trump has not been in office 2 years, and has already spent about 37 million on flights to Mar a Lago. By the time he has 2 years in, that number will be close to half of what the Obama's spent, with trump spending it in 1/4th as short of time.

Each trip to Trump's Mar a Lago costs over 3 million dollars in fuel and secret service protection.

If we put vacations aside, morals come into play as well, modestly specifically.

If you recall, around 2009 Michelle Obama was criticized heavily for wearing a dress with bare arms. How provocative, right?

Well, as many already know, the current 1st lady, Melania posed naked. But again, more silence from the right. I guess this excuses her behavior?

I could go on all day about this, but the point is, somehow these people can find no fault in Trump's work, and any readily apparent mistake he made is somehow given a half-assed excuse by the right.

He was a traitor, it's undeniable, and that makes you delusional not the right wingers, who are bat-sh*t crazy hypocrites for the most part...but the left is unredeemable especially the garbage that fawnp over the traitor and fraud obama