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Processed foods may be addictive
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-19-2019 03:22 AM)
RiskyRob  Wrote: (05-19-2019 02:55 AM)
The people ate more ultra processed food. Perhaps they ate faster?
Explains why
usa is a nation of obese zombies

it also explains why it's happened in the last 40 years. An extra 500 calories a day will do it.

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RiskyRob  Wrote: (05-19-2019 02:27 AM)
The research, appearing in the journal Cell Metabolism, shows that “ultra-processed” foods may actually have something habit-forming in them, pushing people to overeat and gain more weight than those on a whole food or minimally processed food diet.

The NIH’s first-of-its-kind, strictly controlled trial revealed that those on an ultra-processed diet consumed 508 more calories on average — leading experts to speculate whether these foods are somehow addictive — and each gained about 2 pounds during the two-week period. Those on the unprocessed diet actually lost 2 pounds.

“I was surprised by the findings from this study, because I thought that if we matched the two diets for components like sugars, fat, carbohydrates, protein and sodium, there wouldn’t be anything magical about the ultra-processed food that would cause people to eat more,” says lead author Kevin Hall of the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases at the NIH. “But we found that, in fact, people ate many more calories on the ultra-processed diet, and this caused them to gain weight and body fat.”

For a month, 20 healthy volunteers were admitted to the NIH’s Metabolic Clinical Research Unit and divided into two groups: one on an ultra-processed diet (read: white bread, canned produce, jarred condiments and more) and the other consuming made-from-scratch meals. After two weeks, the groups traded regimens.

Participants who started on the processed diets snacked on an added 508 calories a day, put on 2 pounds and gained body fat in the first two weeks — then lost the weight and fat when they switched to whole foods.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/processed...udy-claims

I'm reminded of something I saw recently, where people ate less if they were given smaller plates to put the food on, and more with larger plates that tended to look empty.

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RE: Processed foods may be addictive
strength training, im tellin ya..


i LOVE it.

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RE: Processed foods may be addictive
RiskyRob  Wrote: (05-19-2019 03:26 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-19-2019 03:22 AM)
Explains why
usa is a nation of obese zombies

it also explains why it's happened in the last 40 years. An extra 500 calories a day will do it.

Fast Food and Processed Food then death spiral of gmos in past 15 years
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Albrecht Bear  Wrote: (05-19-2019 03:26 AM)
RiskyRob  Wrote: (05-19-2019 02:27 AM)
The research, appearing in the journal Cell Metabolism, shows that “ultra-processed” foods may actually have something habit-forming in them, pushing people to overeat and gain more weight than those on a whole food or minimally processed food diet.

The NIH’s first-of-its-kind, strictly controlled trial revealed that those on an ultra-processed diet consumed 508 more calories on average — leading experts to speculate whether these foods are somehow addictive — and each gained about 2 pounds during the two-week period. Those on the unprocessed diet actually lost 2 pounds.

“I was surprised by the findings from this study, because I thought that if we matched the two diets for components like sugars, fat, carbohydrates, protein and sodium, there wouldn’t be anything magical about the ultra-processed food that would cause people to eat more,” says lead author Kevin Hall of the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases at the NIH. “But we found that, in fact, people ate many more calories on the ultra-processed diet, and this caused them to gain weight and body fat.”

For a month, 20 healthy volunteers were admitted to the NIH’s Metabolic Clinical Research Unit and divided into two groups: one on an ultra-processed diet (read: white bread, canned produce, jarred condiments and more) and the other consuming made-from-scratch meals. After two weeks, the groups traded regimens.

Participants who started on the processed diets snacked on an added 508 calories a day, put on 2 pounds and gained body fat in the first two weeks — then lost the weight and fat when they switched to whole foods.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/processed...udy-claims

I'm reminded of something I saw recently, where people ate less if they were given smaller plates to put the food on, and more with larger plates that tended to look empty.

There are also tricks to help people eat more slowly. In time the brain eventually gets the signal that you're "full". Shoveling in food quickly is a mistake.

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RE: Processed foods may be addictive
Processed foods are more efficient in the body.
They are digested much more quickly, and require fewer calories to digest.
This leaves the stomach empty much more quickly and so a person has the sensation of hunger.
Home made fresh foods take a lot more energy to digest, a person feels full quicker and stays full longer.
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chia seed gel. folks.

check it out.

i am loving this.

https://wellnessmama.com/4981/chia-seeds-benefits/

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LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-19-2019 03:28 AM)
RiskyRob  Wrote: (05-19-2019 03:26 AM)
it also explains why it's happened in the last 40 years. An extra 500 calories a day will do it.

Fast Food and Processed Food then death spiral of gmos in past 15 years

GMO! GMO! GMO!

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Coolchick  Wrote: (05-19-2019 02:52 AM)
RiskyRob  Wrote: (05-19-2019 02:48 AM)
"Researchers were also careful to make sure volunteers on both diets received near-equivalent nutrition, regardless of processing. To make up for the lack of dietary fiber in the processed diet, participants in that group were also given beverages with added fiber, such as juice or lemonade."

ok yeah sure and you can do that. add vitamins minerals whatever..

i get that..

but the real whole foods? its what was intended in the forst place.

the body responds to that.
the other is a pale comparison, at best. so of course we respond and feel/work etter, when we eat the real thing.

im just glad that i grew up with things like garden grown foods.. homemade jams, pies, real meals..
i was fortunate, to have memories of my childhood like that.

and so, for me, it is simply normal to eat well.


Yeah, no way the shitfood is as nutritious as the whole food.. I see what you're saying.


We try to eat organic, while foods as often as possible. If we cheat it's always better quality easy food, as opposed to the dogshit processed "food". It tastes better and just feels more satisfying:)
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Fire of Prometheus  Wrote: (05-19-2019 03:31 AM)
Processed foods are more efficient in the body.
They are digested much more quickly, and require fewer calories to digest.
This leaves the stomach empty much more quickly and so a person has the sensation of hunger.
Home made fresh foods take a lot more energy to digest, a person feels full quicker and stays full longer.

That might be a factor. Processed is pre-digested?

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LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-19-2019 03:32 AM)
Coolchick  Wrote: (05-19-2019 02:52 AM)
ok yeah sure and you can do that. add vitamins minerals whatever..

i get that..

but the real whole foods? its what was intended in the forst place.

the body responds to that.
the other is a pale comparison, at best. so of course we respond and feel/work etter, when we eat the real thing.

im just glad that i grew up with things like garden grown foods.. homemade jams, pies, real meals..
i was fortunate, to have memories of my childhood like that.

and so, for me, it is simply normal to eat well.


Yeah, no way the shitfood is as nutritious as the whole food.. I see what you're saying.


We try to eat organic, while foods as often as possible. If we cheat it's always better quality easy food, as opposed to the dogshit processed "food". It tastes better and just feels more satisfying:)

yeah. it isnt hard to make a great stirfry for instance.... ginger garlic and allsorts..


i enjoy making food like that, its like.. having a conversation with mother earth, when you prepare things like that.. good things..

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RiskyRob  Wrote: (05-19-2019 03:31 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-19-2019 03:28 AM)
Fast Food and Processed Food then death spiral of gmos in past 15 years

GMO! GMO! GMO!

I tried to get them banned but baby boomers wanted the stock profits
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RE: Processed foods may be addictive
Coolchick  Wrote: (05-19-2019 03:35 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-19-2019 03:32 AM)
Yeah, no way the shitfood is as nutritious as the whole food.. I see what you're saying.


We try to eat organic, while foods as often as possible. If we cheat it's always better quality easy food, as opposed to the dogshit processed "food". It tastes better and just feels more satisfying:)

yeah. it isnt hard to make a great stirfry for instance.... ginger garlic and allsorts..


i enjoy making food like that, its like.. having a conversation with mother earth, when you prepare things like that.. good things..


Oh yeah.. even a nice, big garden salad with a wild sockeye salmon filet and a side of brown rice is so good and satisfying.

So many easy options:)
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RE: Processed foods may be addictive
RiskyRob  Wrote: (05-19-2019 03:33 AM)
Fire of Prometheus  Wrote: (05-19-2019 03:31 AM)
Processed foods are more efficient in the body.
They are digested much more quickly, and require fewer calories to digest.
This leaves the stomach empty much more quickly and so a person has the sensation of hunger.
Home made fresh foods take a lot more energy to digest, a person feels full quicker and stays full longer.

That might be a factor. Processed is pre-digested?

Pretty much, cooked, heat preserved, then reheated...
HFCS is cooked, processed, digested by enzymes and homogenized if memory serves.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-19-2019 03:36 AM)
RiskyRob  Wrote: (05-19-2019 03:31 AM)
GMO! GMO! GMO!

I tried to get them banned but baby boomers wanted the stock profits

Gen X will ban Gmos in the usa.
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