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Trump May Pardon US Soldiers Accused Or Convicted Of War Crimes – NYT's
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Trump May Pardon US Soldiers Accused Or Convicted Of War Crimes – NYT's
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Breaking News: President Trump is showing signs he will pardon several servicemen accused of war crimes. He asked for paperwork to be prepared by Memorial Day
12:59 PM - 18 May 2019




Operations Chief Edward Gallagher of the Navy SEALs.CreditFamily photograph


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Trump May Be Preparing Pardons for Servicemen Accused of War Crimes
The White House on Friday requested paperwork needed to pardon several military members, including Special Operations Chief Edward Gallagher of the Navy SEALs.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/18/us/tr...rimes.html



Trump May Pardon US Soldiers Accused Or Convicted Of War Crimes – NYT's

New York Times says pardons could come around Memorial Day
Navy Seal and Green Beret accused of killing unarmed civilians


"Donald Trump has asked for files to be prepared on pardoning several US military members accused of or convicted of war crimes, including one slated to stand trial on charges of shooting unarmed civilians while in Iraq, the New York Times reported.



Trump has frequently expressed interest in such cases, which have become causes célèbre among Republicans and rightwing media including Fox News.

Earlier this month he pardoned Matthew Behenna, a former US soldier who was convicted in 2009 of killing an Iraqi prisoner.

According to the Times, which cited two unnamed US officials, Trump requested the immediate preparation of paperwork needed, indicating he is considering pardons for the men around Memorial Day on 27 May.

Assembling pardon files normally takes months but the justice department has pressed for the work to be completed before the holiday weekend, one of the officials said.

One request is for Special Operations Chief Edward Gallagher of the Navy Seals, who is scheduled to stand trial in coming weeks on charges of shooting unarmed civilians and killing an enemy captive with a knife while deployed in Iraq.

Also believed to be included is Major Mathew Golsteyn, an Army Green Beret accused of killing an unarmed Afghan in 2010, the Times said.



The newspaper reported that the cases of other men are believed to be included in the paperwork, without naming them.


Legal experts cited in the report said pardoning several accused and convicted war criminals, including some who have not yet gone to trial, has not been done in recent history. Some worried such pardons could erode the legitimacy of military law."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019...york-times

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Trump's Pardon of a Soldier is an "Endorsement of a Murder"

The ACLU condemned Trump for pardoning a soldier convicted of murdering an Iraqi prisoner.



"In 2009, Army Ranger Michael Behenna was convicted of unpremeditated murder by a military court. Behenna was ordered to transport prisoner Ali Mansur back to his village but, instead, he drove Mansur to a secluded location, stripped him naked for an unauthorized interrogation, and then shot him to death.

Behenna claimed he acted in self-defense but according to court documents he told fellow soldiers "he would do it again, and he did not feel bad about it because he just lost two guys." And, on Monday, Donald Trump pardoned him. Behenna's 25 year sentence had already been reduced to 15 years, and, in 2014, he was released on parole. In a statement, Sarah Huckabee Sanders called Behenna "entirely deserving of this Grant of Executive Clemency."

The director of the American Civil Liberties Union's National Security Project called the pardon "a presidential endorsement of a murder that violated the military’s own code of justice. Trump, as Commander-in-Chief, and top military leaders should prevent war crimes, not endorse or excuse them."

During his time in office, Trump's selection for presidential pardons has been explicitly political. This includes Dinesh D'Souza, the hyper-partisan conservative activist who was convicted after he knowingly made illegal campaign contributions in 2012. Then there's the Hammonds, ranchers whose arson conviction inspired the month-long, armed occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. And Trump's first pardon as president is probably the most egregious, granting clemency to former sheriff Joe Arpaio after he defied a federal judges orders. Arpaio openly bragged about forcing suspected undocumented immigrants into open-air "concentration camps" and the conditions in his jails were so abhorrent that a staggering number of prisoners killed themselves there. There's a good chance Trump selected D'Souza and Arpaio himself since they're both very vocal cheerleaders of his."

https://www.gq.com/story/trumps-pardon

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You don't have to be clairvoyant to have seen this coming.

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RE: Outrage erupts after Trump pardons US soldier who tortured and killed Iraqi prisoner


Next up for a pardon is one of Trump's newest heros.

Commander Accused Of Restricting Navy Seal, Defying Trump
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Donald J. Trump

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In honor of his past service to our Country, Navy Seal #EddieGallagher will soon be moved to less restrictive confinement while he awaits his day in court. Process should move quickly! @foxandfriends @RepRalphNorman
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https://www.dailycaller.com/2019/04/10/t...ar-crimes/


Navy SEAL Faces Court Martial For Allegedly Murdering ISIS Prisoner, Shooting Iraqi Civilians

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"There are three eyewitnesses to Gallagher’s alleged killing of the ISIS fighter, which occurred in May 2017 near Mosul, Warbinski said Wednesday. One of the witnesses, a SEAL medic identified only as C.S., told NCIS that Gallagher “walked up without saying anything at all” and stabbed the prisoner, leaving everyone present in “complete disbelief.”

"A decorated Navy SEAL stabbed to death an Islamic State fighter that had been taken prisoner and texted a picture of himself posing with the body to fellow sailors, military prosecutors said Wednesday.

In a probable cause hearing before Navy Judge Advocate Capt. Arthur Record, prosecutors alleged that Chief Edward “Eddie” Gallagher stabbed the already wounded ISIS fighter in the neck, just moments after SEAL medics had stabilized him."

"Gallagher then propped up the dead fighter’s body for a commemorative photo and performed a re-enlistment ceremony next to it, prosecutors said at the Article 32 hearing, which was first reported Thursday by military news website Task & Purpose."

https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/15/navy-...ar-crimes/
https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/15/navy-...ar-crimes/

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It's who you know: How a soldier convicted of murder got Trump to pardon him

by Steven Nelson
| May 10, 2019 12:00 AM


"Former Army 1st Lt. Michael Behenna beat the odds Monday, becoming the 8th person pardoned by President Trump after a campaign by supporters who recognized that “it’s who you know" that matters most.

Now an Oklahoma farmhand, Behenna was released from prison in 2014 after serving five years of a murder sentence for shooting an Iraqi roadside bomb suspect, whom he stripped naked during what he said was an unauthorized interrogation.

At the time of Behenna’s prosecution, his mother Vicki Behenna was an assistant U.S. attorney in Oklahoma. Her boss was John Richter, a prominent Republican attorney, and then a U.S. attorney, who took a long-term interest and led the pardon push.



Richter formerly led the Justice Department’s criminal division and said he knew that the department’s Office of the Pardon Attorney is a graveyard for clemency bids, so he sought to leverage contacts to reach Trump directly.


“I never thought that this was going to be considered through a linear process through which I submit the paperwork through the Department of Justice. That’s not the way the world works, unfortunately,” Richter told the Washington Examiner.



“The common thread is you have to build external support, then you have got to find the right individuals who have relationships who can pick up the phone,” Richter said.

The campaign relied heavily on support from Oklahoma politicians. But it’s unclear who made the pitch directly to Trump, persuading him to issue clemency for the first time in 10 months.

Richter said he has “sneaking suspicions” about who spoke with Trump but would not name them to respect their privacy. “Obviously, someone spoke to the president,” he said.


"It's not likely anyone you have ever heard of, but like most of these processes, it is through word of mouth, and through people who know people. And that's been what has been required for a lot of pardons across a lot of administrations,” Richter said.

In-person asks are powerful opportunities with Trump. He released from prison bank fraudster Sholom Rubashkin after an appeal over lunch from Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz,

and he freed drug convict Alice Johnson after meeting in the Oval Office with Kim Kardashian.

Many public figures who supported the pardon did not speak with Trump directly, including Sen. James Lankford, R-Okla., and Oklahoma Attorney General Mike Hunter.

Hunter said he sent two letters to Trump, guided in part by a desire to support military members, but he only heard from the White House on Monday afternoon, with an aide asking for Behenna’s phone number to convey the news.

“The Behennas were persistent. This has been a long haul,” Hunter said. “Their tireless approach to vindicating their family member has been heroic in a sense.”

From the outset, the family argued Behenna, 24 at the time of the shooting, was actually innocent, arguing in appeals the victim lunged and that exculpatory ballistics evidence was concealed.

A White House statement noted political support, but named only Hunter and former Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin.

Fallin, who left office in January after eight years, was a congresswoman during Behenna’s prosecution, and was acquainted with Vicki and her husband Scott, who worked for the FBI. She wrote Trump a letter but said she can’t recall speaking with Trump in person about the case.

“I had lots of conversations with the family,” Fallin said. “From my standpoint, you had an American soldier who is dealing with friends and colleagues who were killed by an al-Qaeda suspect … and according to Michael, he felt he acted in self-defense.”

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Trump is becoming more and more like Hitler every month. Pardoning war crimes and mass murderers of innocent civilians and for committing atrocities that go against all of the international treaties the US has signed onto, only signals that the next wave of war crimes and atrocities is also going to be pardoned. That allows the most depraved and demented criminals to believe they have full permission to rape, murder and torture whomever they want to and then get away with it.

This is what happens in despotic dictatorships and fascistic states. Nobody should want a military to be full of thugs that go on kill sprees and decide who is a target, and face no accountability for their in-humane actions.

5* and thank you so much for posting on how depraved Trump is becoming.

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"This Makes Me Sick’ Ex-Army Lawyer Says As Donald Trump Reportedly Prepares To Pardon U.S War Criminals"

"A former U.S. military lawyer took to Twitter on Saturday to condemn Donald Trump for his alleged upcoming pardon of several American war criminals".


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"On Saturday, former Army Judge Advocate General Glen Kirschner took to his Twitter account to condemn Trump over the reported upcoming pardons, declaring, “This makes me sick.”

Kirschner goes on to explain that military authorities are generally reluctant to prosecute soldiers for acts committed in wartime, and as he continued in his Twitter posts, “enormous time/effort goes into investigations, prosecutions and, in the event of conviction, appeals.”

The reported pardon of the Blackwater contractor especially outraged Kirschner, as Raw Story reported. The former prosecutor noted that other Blackwater contractors were among the most compelling witnesses against Slatten and other contractors charged in the Baghdad Nisour Square massacre, testifying that their fellow Blackwater guards’ use of deadly force was “wholly unjustified and without provocation.”

Slatten was heard to describe Iraqi civilians as “animals,” and “less than human,” whose lives were “worth nothing,” Kirschner recounted.

Blackwater was founded and run by Erik Prince, who was been a major supporter of Trump’s 2016 election bid. Prince’s sister, Betsy DeVos, was named U.S. Education Secretary by Trump. And Prince himself admitted taking part in a secret meeting at Trump Tower in August of 2016, with representatives of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, where plans to interfere in the election in Trump’s favor were laid out, as The Intercept reported."

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"Glenn L. Kirschner is an NBC News/MSNBC legal analyst and former career federal prosecutor and U.S. Army prosecutor. He is portrayed by actor Paulino Nunes in the film Georgetown. "
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He Man  Wrote: (05-19-2019 05:28 PM)
Trump is becoming more and more like Hitler every month. Pardoning war crimes and mass murderers of innocent civilians and servicemen for committing atrocities that go against all of the international treaties the US has signed onto, only signals that the next wave of war crimes and atrocities is also going to be pardoned. That allows the most depraved and demented criminals to believe they have full permission to kill rape murder and torture whomever they want to and then get away with it.

This is what happens in despotic dictatorships and fascistic states. Nobody should want a military to be full of thugs that go on kill sprees and decide who is a target, and face no accountability for their in-humane actions.

5* and thank you so much for posting on how depraved Trump is becoming.

You're welcome and I went to post this on your Trump thread when he pardoned the other convicted soldier and it had been closed.


For our country and all the honorable soldiers who have served or are serving I hope this is not true.

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Isabella  Wrote: (05-19-2019 05:43 PM)
He Man  Wrote: (05-19-2019 05:28 PM)
Trump is becoming more and more like Hitler every month. Pardoning war crimes and mass murderers of innocent civilians and servicemen for committing atrocities that go against all of the international treaties the US has signed onto, only signals that the next wave of war crimes and atrocities is also going to be pardoned. That allows the most depraved and demented criminals to believe they have full permission to kill rape murder and torture whomever they want to and then get away with it.

This is what happens in despotic dictatorships and fascistic states. Nobody should want a military to be full of thugs that go on kill sprees and decide who is a target, and face no accountability for their in-humane actions.

5* and thank you so much for posting on how depraved Trump is becoming.

You're welcome and I went to post this on your Trump thread when he pardoned the other convicted soldier and it had been closed.


For our country and all the honorable soldiers who have served or are serving I hope this is not true.

Sadly it is, and his degenerate base is just a clapping....
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‘Unfathomable evil’: Trump’s proposed plan to pardon war criminals provokes massive backlash

"Progressives, human rights advocates, and journalists responded with outrage on Saturday to a New York Times report that President Donald Trump “has requested the immediate preparation of paperwork needed to pardon several American military members accused or convicted of war crimes.”

Unnamed U.S. government officials told the Times that on or around Memorial Day, Trump may pardon multiple servicemembers involved with “high-profile cases of murder, attempted murder, and desecration of a corpse.”

As the newspaper reported:

The requests are for Special Operations Chief Edward Gallagher of the Navy SEALs, who is scheduled to stand trial in the coming weeks on charges of shooting unarmed civilians and killing an enemy captive with a knife while deployed in Iraq.

They are also believed to include the case of a former Blackwater security contractor recently found guilty in the deadly 2007 shooting of dozens of unarmed Iraqis; the case of Maj. Mathew L. Golsteyn, the Army Green Beret accused of killing an unarmed Afghan in 2010; and the case of a group of Marine Corps snipers charged with urinating on the corpse of a dead Taliban fighter.

“These are all extremely complicated cases that have gone through a careful system of consideration,” Gary Solis, a retired military judge and armor officer who served in Vietnam, told the Times. “A freewheeling pardon undermines that whole system.”

Solis warned that pardoning servicemembers accused or convicted of war crimes “raises the prospect in the minds of the troops that says, ‘Whatever we do, if we can get the folks back home behind us, maybe we can get let off.'”

The news on Saturday came after Trump, earlier this month, pardoned former Army 1st Lt. Michael Behenna, who was convicted of murdering an Iraqi prisoner in 2008. As Common Dreams reported at the time, human rights advocates decried that decision as “a presidential endorsement of a murder that violated the military’s own code of justice.”

The Times report—on which the White House and Justice Department declined to comment—was met with similar condemnation.

The Atlantic‘s Adam Serwer, who spoke out against Trump’s pardon of Behenna, tweeted, “This incentivizes the commission of war crimes by our opponents and allies, and in doing so puts U.S. servicemembers at greater risk.”


Adam Serwer?

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Gonna say this again—this incentivizes the commission of war crimes by our opponents and allies, and in doing so puts US servicemembers at greater risk. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/18/us/tr...rimes.html …"

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Everyone knows, all Gentiles are animals. Nothing to see here.
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As all good president's should...
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As all good president's should...

And he's letting all the POWs from the ME go right....seeing as they're in prison for 'war crimes'
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Faux outrage, at something the president might do, is pinned.


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Faux outrage, at something the president might do, is pinned.


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Isabella  Wrote: (05-19-2019 05:43 PM)
You're welcome and I went to post this on your Trump thread when he pardoned the other convicted soldier and it had been closed.


For our country and all the honorable soldiers who have served or are serving I hope this is not true.

Sadly it is, and his degenerate base is just a clapping....

No truer words spoken...


Trump reportedly taking broad look at veterans convicted of battlefield crimes

May 9,2019


"President Trump, who in recent days pardoned a former U.S. soldier convicted in 2009 of killing an Iraqi prisoner, is taking a broad look at veterans jailed for battlefield crimes and considering granting more of them similar relief.

Roughly 24 veterans are awaiting trial for combat zone actions, five are locked up at the federal penitentiary in Leavenworth, Kan., and many others have completed jail sentences, said David Gurfein, the chairman of United American Patriots, a nonprofit that advocates for veterans prosecuted for battlefield crimes.

Gurfein told Fox News that United American Patriots has provided details about those cases to Trump in response to a question he raised in a meeting with a congressman recently about how many veterans have been prosecuted and convicted for crimes in war zones.lol

“We are sending our warriors into some of the most dangerous environments we could possibly imagine,” Gurfein told Fox News. “They engage our nation’s enemies, yet we’re judging them by our domestic standards, as if it were happening here, on Main Street, U.S.A.”

On Monday, Trump pardoned Michael Behenna, who was convicted in 2009 of unpremeditated murder in a combat zone in the 2008 killing of Ali Mansur Mohamed, an unarmed Iraqi prisoner.




Behenna said he acted in self-defense when the man reached for Behenna’s handgun, but the Army said the argument didn’t hold up because Behenna was pointing his weapon at the prisoner.



Behenna admitted during his trial that instead of taking the prisoner home as he was ordered, he took the man to a railroad culvert, stripped him, then questioned him at gunpoint about a roadside bombing that had killed two members of Behenna’s platoon.

A military appeals court in 2012 found that jury instructions on self-defense were incorrect, and that prosecutors had failed to tell the defense of a crime scene expert who supported the claim of self-defense. Still, the court said the errors were harmless and did not affect the outcome of the trial.

“What I was told by President Trump ... was that I received a pardon because of the prosecutorial misconduct that happened during the trial,” Behenna said at a Wednesday press conference in Oklahoma, his home state.

The White House said in an announcement about the pardon: "Mr. Behenna’s case has attracted broad support from the military, Oklahoma elected officials, and the public. ... U.S. Army’s highest appellate court noted concern about how the trial court had handled Mr. Behenna’s claim of self-defense...Thirty-seven generals and admirals, along with a former inspector general of the Department of Defense, signed a brief in support of Mr. Behenna’s self-defense claim."

"In light of these facts, Mr. Behenna is entirely deserving of this grant of executive clemency."

Gurfein said that veterans who have completed jail sentences "still have the stigma of being a convict, the stigma of having committed murder -- even when they were wrongly accused and convicted -- hanging over their head."

Trump is said to be paying particular attention to a pardon request he has received on behalf of Army First Lt. Clint Lorance, who is serving a 20-year sentence in Leavenworth for ordering his men to shoot two suspected Taliban scouts in Afghanistan back in 2012.

Lorance’s attorney, John Maher, wrote a letter to Trump last year that said, “Of all the requests before you, this case stands out because the evidence shows that Clint is not guilty – he is innocent.”


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