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Jay Sekulow discussed a global pardon - DEPOSITION OF: MICHAEL COHEN
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RE: Jay Sekulow discussed a global pardon - DEPOSITION OF: MICHAEL COHEN
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Fork  Wrote: (05-21-2019 06:03 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-21-2019 05:59 PM)
Obviously he's lying because he didn't get a pardon now did he

Obviously you haven't reviewed the deposition.
Cohen has stated Trump's lawyers asked him to lie repeatedly.

take some time and go look....

so - cohen has lied repeatedly to congress and trump wanted him to lie even more? - started to get as if how can you tell when cohen is telling truth?
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RE: Jay Sekulow discussed a global pardon - DEPOSITION OF: MICHAEL COHEN
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-21-2019 10:49 PM)
Fork  Wrote: (05-21-2019 06:03 PM)
Obviously you haven't reviewed the deposition.
Cohen has stated Trump's lawyers asked him to lie repeatedly.

take some time and go look....

so - cohen has lied repeatedly to congress and trump wanted him to lie even more? - started to get as if how can you tell when cohen is telling truth?



Documents and/or recorded phone calls work just fine.


Cohen gives House committee files showing Moscow Tower statement edited by Trump lawyers
March 7, 2019

snips

"The documents provided by Cohen in a closed-door interview with the panel on Wednesday are not public, but two sources confirmed to Fox News that they included edits from the president’s legal team. It’s unclear who exactly edited the documents or what exactly was changed."

"Another source familiar with the records and close to Cohen said, “He wrote the first version. He lied because he was given clear message to stay on message. There were many versions of the original document he wrote circulated among the lawyers in the joint defense agreement. There were edits proposed by certain lawyers. Some were accepted and some were rejected. The final version is what was the issue in August 2017.”

In public testimony last week, Cohen told the House Oversight Committee that Trump’s attorneys, including Jay Sekulow, had reviewed and edited the statement he provided to Congress.

Sekulow has denied wrongdoing,
saying in a statement after the hearing that the “testimony by Michael Cohen that attorneys for the President edited or changed his statement to Congress to alter the duration of the Trump Tower Moscow negotiations is completely false.”


https://dnyuz.com/2019/03/07/cohen-gives...p-lawyers/

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RE: Jay Sekulow discussed a global pardon - DEPOSITION OF: MICHAEL COHEN
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-21-2019 10:49 PM)
Fork  Wrote: (05-21-2019 06:03 PM)
Obviously you haven't reviewed the deposition.
Cohen has stated Trump's lawyers asked him to lie repeatedly.

take some time and go look....

so - cohen has lied repeatedly to congress and trump wanted him to lie even more? - started to get as if how can you tell when cohen is telling truth?


same way as your orange jesus.
when their lips are moving
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Cosmic Day  Wrote: (05-21-2019 09:16 PM)
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (05-21-2019 08:59 PM)
You can lie in political ads, and on twitter.

And when reporting news.

USA is ruled under mosaic laws with its judicial system and judges.

That shalt not bear false witness (lying under oath in a court of law).

There are no others commands for not lying in the OT. Both Moses and the Ten Commandments are statuesquely represented on the facade of the US Supreme Court building.

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Well Jay Sekulow is royally fvcked, he's a Messianic Jew with a Christian Radio Show .chuckle
I will assume that Jay would tell others that it's a sin to lie under oath or not...


1 Timothy 4:2
Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.


"Jay Sekulow Live!
Jay Sekulow Live! with Jay Sekulow"


https://www.christianradio.com/ministry/...58503.html

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NY Assembly set to close double jeopardy loophole
Source: WCAX-TV

"A presidential pardon for federal crimes won't be enough to clear a person of similar state charges under legislation poised for passage in New York.

The Democrat-led state Assembly plans to vote Tuesday on a measure closing a legal loophole in the state's double jeopardy law that prosecutors say could allow someone pardoned by the president to argue they can't be charged at the state level.

New York prosecutors and the lawmakers behind the bill say it's necessary to ensure the state's investigations into Trump and his associates can't be derailed through a White House pardon.

The bill has already passed the state Senate, so passage in the Assembly will send it to Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who supports the measure."

Read more: https://www.wcax.com/content/news/NY-sta...12691.html

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Isabella  Wrote: (05-21-2019 11:38 PM)
NY Assembly set to close double jeopardy loophole
Source: WCAX-TV

"A presidential pardon for federal crimes won't be enough to clear a person of similar state charges under legislation poised for passage in New York.

The Democrat-led state Assembly plans to vote Tuesday on a measure closing a legal loophole in the state's double jeopardy law that prosecutors say could allow someone pardoned by the president to argue they can't be charged at the state level.

New York prosecutors and the lawmakers behind the bill say it's necessary to ensure the state's investigations into Trump and his associates can't be derailed through a White House pardon.

The bill has already passed the state Senate, so passage in the Assembly will send it to Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who supports the measure."

Read more: https://www.wcax.com/content/news/NY-sta...12691.html


Trump Derangement Syndrome is alive and well in Albany.

At some point, if the Democrats were sane, they would realize singling out Trump like this is just going to get him reelected.

I'm counting on TDS to continue to be the driving force behind the Democrats.

Someday, someone is going to have to explain this blind hatred of Trump.
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NEW YORK — A contrite Michael Cohen on Wednesday received three years in prison for a series of tax fraud and lying charges, sending another former Donald Trump associate to jail.

So a liar and a fraudster is your star witness?? chuckle
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-21-2019 11:48 PM)
Isabella  Wrote: (05-21-2019 11:38 PM)
NY Assembly set to close double jeopardy loophole
Source: WCAX-TV

"A presidential pardon for federal crimes won't be enough to clear a person of similar state charges under legislation poised for passage in New York.

The Democrat-led state Assembly plans to vote Tuesday on a measure closing a legal loophole in the state's double jeopardy law that prosecutors say could allow someone pardoned by the president to argue they can't be charged at the state level.

New York prosecutors and the lawmakers behind the bill say it's necessary to ensure the state's investigations into Trump and his associates can't be derailed through a White House pardon.

The bill has already passed the state Senate, so passage in the Assembly will send it to Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who supports the measure."

Read more: https://www.wcax.com/content/news/NY-sta...12691.html


Trump Derangement Syndrome is alive and well in Albany.

At some point, if the Democrats were sane, they would realize singling out Trump like this is just going to get him reelected.

I'm counting on TDS to continue to be the driving force behind the Democrats.

Someday, someone is going to have to explain this blind hatred of Trump.

No better place then the SDNY and NY State to expose Trump & Co...it's his happy hunting grounds and where he made all his transitions from.
Is he scared of them too?

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LIARLIARPANTSONFIRE  Wrote: (05-22-2019 12:10 AM)
NEW YORK — A contrite Michael Cohen on Wednesday received three years in prison for a series of tax fraud and lying charges, sending another former Donald Trump associate to jail.

So a liar and a fraudster is your star witness?? chuckle

Nah, just a smarter liar and fraud then Trump, he kept documents and handed them over.

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Isabella  Wrote: (05-22-2019 12:45 AM)
LIARLIARPANTSONFIRE  Wrote: (05-22-2019 12:10 AM)
NEW YORK — A contrite Michael Cohen on Wednesday received three years in prison for a series of tax fraud and lying charges, sending another former Donald Trump associate to jail.

So a liar and a fraudster is your star witness?? chuckle

Nah, just a smarter liar and fraud then Trump, he kept documents and handed them over.

That's a violation of bar ethics.

There is no such thing as sovereign debt. Reinstate Greenbacks.
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Isabella  Wrote: (05-22-2019 12:43 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-21-2019 11:48 PM)
Trump Derangement Syndrome is alive and well in Albany.

At some point, if the Democrats were sane, they would realize singling out Trump like this is just going to get him reelected.

I'm counting on TDS to continue to be the driving force behind the Democrats.

Someday, someone is going to have to explain this blind hatred of Trump.

No better place then the SDNY and NY State to expose Trump & Co...it's his happy hunting grounds and where he made all his transitions from.
Is he scared of them too?

It is a futile effort.

You have to apply the law in force when the crime was committed.

They can do this.

But it won't apply to any Trump investigations (since Trump isn't involved in his businesses at the moment there aren't any current crimes to investigate).

Even if they get a conviction, Trump and Assoc. can appeal to the Federal system where it will get tossed.

You can't pass a law to affect punishment on someones past crimes. Ex post-facto will get brutalized in a court challenge.
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Luvapottamus  Wrote: (05-22-2019 12:46 AM)
Isabella  Wrote: (05-22-2019 12:45 AM)
Nah, just a smarter liar and fraud then Trump, he kept documents and handed them over.

That's a violation of bar ethics.

Not when the lawyer and client are in cahoots to commit a crime..in this scenario it was Trump, his WH lawyers and his fixer lawyer Cohen.

All conspiring to change Cohen's testimony before congress to match Trump's time line of the Trump Tower Moscow deal, the charge/lie Cohen plead guilty to.

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Isabella  Wrote: (05-22-2019 12:56 AM)
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (05-22-2019 12:46 AM)
That's a violation of bar ethics.

Not when the lawyer and client are in cahoots to commit a crime..in this scenario it was Trump, his WH lawyers and his fixer lawyer Cohen.

All conspiring to change Cohen's testimony before congress to match Trump's time line of the Trump Tower Moscow deal, the charge/lie Cohen plead guilty to.

A good attorney would have refused to testify.

lol

But on the other paw....

Trump didn't want an ethical one, so he got what he paid for didn't he?

chuckle

There is no such thing as sovereign debt. Reinstate Greenbacks.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-22-2019 12:53 AM)
Isabella  Wrote: (05-22-2019 12:43 AM)
No better place then the SDNY and NY State to expose Trump & Co...it's his happy hunting grounds and where he made all his transitions from.
Is he scared of them too?

It is a futile effort.

You have to apply the law in force when the crime was committed.

They can do this.

But it won't apply to any Trump investigations (since Trump isn't involved in his businesses at the moment there aren't any current crimes to investigate).

Even if they get a conviction, Trump and Assoc. can appeal to the Federal system where it will get tossed.

You can't pass a law to affect punishment on someones past crimes. Ex post-facto will get brutalized in a court challenge.


wrong post.

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Luvapottamus  Wrote: (05-22-2019 12:57 AM)
Isabella  Wrote: (05-22-2019 12:56 AM)
Not when the lawyer and client are in cahoots to commit a crime..in this scenario it was Trump, his WH lawyers and his fixer lawyer Cohen.

All conspiring to change Cohen's testimony before congress to match Trump's time line of the Trump Tower Moscow deal, the charge/lie Cohen plead guilty to.

A good attorney would have refused to testify.

lol

But on the other paw....

Trump didn't want an ethical one, so he got what he paid for didn't he?

chuckle

Trump's 2 personal lawyers and fixers both got disbarred after years of defending him.
Roy Cohen and Michael Cohen...
Knowing him somewhere down the line there's another lawyer named Cohen waiting in the wings...chuckle

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