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New York bans religious exemptions for vaccines
LoP Guest
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06-14-2019 08:22 PM

 




Post: #16
RE: New York bans religious exemptions for vaccines
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-14-2019 08:19 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-14-2019 08:14 PM)
You can have your own opinion but you can't have your own facts, and those are facts.

Plus, not getting vaccinated endangers others. Some people legitimately CAN'T get vaccinated for health reasons and depend on herd immunity to keep from getting measles -- which can f*#k you up for life even if it doesn't kill you.

So the more than 300 baby deaths attributed to the MMR vaccine is justified to you?
One life is worth more than another? What if it was your child, would you be singing vaccine praises then?
https://www.google.com/search?q=mmr+deaths

A google search is hardly evidence, but here is a link with some.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4599698/

It says: A large body of evidence supports the safety of vaccines, and multiple studies and scientific reviews have found no association between vaccination and deaths except in rare cases.

And the millions of lives saved by vaccines outweigh the few lives lost, yes.
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06-14-2019 08:25 PM

 




Post: #17
RE: New York bans religious exemptions for vaccines
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-14-2019 08:22 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-14-2019 08:19 PM)
So the more than 300 baby deaths attributed to the MMR vaccine is justified to you?
One life is worth more than another? What if it was your child, would you be singing vaccine praises then?
https://www.google.com/search?q=mmr+deaths

A google search is hardly evidence, but here is a link with some.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4599698/

It says: A large body of evidence supports the safety of vaccines, and multiple studies and scientific reviews have found no association between vaccination and deaths except in rare cases.

And the millions of lives saved by vaccines outweigh the few lives lost, yes.

You sound like a medical doctor with a god complex.
-just sayin'
work for the cdc? (making $$$ from it...)
LoP Guest
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06-14-2019 08:27 PM

 




Post: #18
RE: New York bans religious exemptions for vaccines
Such pesky words... "rare" and "except".
LoP Guest
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06-14-2019 08:27 PM

 




Post: #19
RE: New York bans religious exemptions for vaccines
Rover  Wrote: (06-14-2019 06:50 PM)
Treebeard  Wrote: (06-14-2019 06:43 PM)
and so it begins.

prison planet.

And so it begins, healthier planet.

Yum fetal tissues yum yum
LoP Guest
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06-14-2019 08:29 PM

 




Post: #20
RE: New York bans religious exemptions for vaccines
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-14-2019 08:25 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-14-2019 08:22 PM)
A google search is hardly evidence, but here is a link with some.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4599698/

It says: A large body of evidence supports the safety of vaccines, and multiple studies and scientific reviews have found no association between vaccination and deaths except in rare cases.

And the millions of lives saved by vaccines outweigh the few lives lost, yes.

You sound like a medical doctor with a god complex.
-just sayin'
work for the cdc? (making $$$ from it...)

Nope. I just believe in things like facts and evidence. Positing hypotheticals is stupid. I could just as easily turn around and ask you, What if it was your baby in an iron lung or dying of measles? Would you be so anti-vaxx then?

One thing happened FAR more frequently than the other, and that's well documented.

There's a reason people line up for vaccinations and wait for hours or even days, in countries where these diseases are still common.
LoP Guest
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06-14-2019 08:32 PM

 




Post: #21
RE: New York bans religious exemptions for vaccines
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-14-2019 08:27 PM)
Such pesky words... "rare" and "except".

and in a less biased statement, the correct term would have been "little association", instead of "no association". That in itself shows where the bias lies.
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06-14-2019 08:33 PM

 




Post: #22
RE: New York bans religious exemptions for vaccines
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-14-2019 08:29 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-14-2019 08:25 PM)
You sound like a medical doctor with a god complex.
-just sayin'
work for the cdc? (making $$$ from it...)

Nope. I just believe in things like facts and evidence. Positing hypotheticals is stupid. I could just as easily turn around and ask you, What if it was your baby in an iron lung or dying of measles? Would you be so anti-vaxx then?

One thing happened FAR more frequently than the other, and that's well documented.

There's a reason people line up for vaccinations and wait for hours or even days, in countries where these diseases are still common.

I don't believe in control. I believe in freedom and liberty still. Something this society has grown away from.
LoP Guest
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06-14-2019 08:36 PM

 




Post: #23
RE: New York bans religious exemptions for vaccines
I mean we could go back and research polio paralysis and the polio vaccine or cancer and vaccines... or even HIV and vaccines. The argument is there that they are hardly safe- at least in historical context.
Mr ifnoc nli
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06-14-2019 08:40 PM

 




Post: #24
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Rover  Wrote: (06-14-2019 06:50 PM)
Treebeard  Wrote: (06-14-2019 06:43 PM)
and so it begins.

prison planet.

And so it begins, healthier planet.

Rofl

You first. You too Popeye. All you atheists. Go! Be a dutiful citizen.

Bring a needle near me. I fu#king dare ya! You all want war don't ya?
This isn't going to end well. Now please run along, and go get all your shots, you ignorant dawgs!
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06-14-2019 08:42 PM

 




Post: #25
RE: New York bans religious exemptions for vaccines
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-14-2019 08:36 PM)
I mean we could go back and research polio paralysis and the polio vaccine or cancer and vaccines... or even HIV and vaccines. The argument is there that they are hardly safe- at least in historical context.

And BTW, that comes from a true "expert" in the field, Dr. Maurice Hilleman from the Merck vaccine division itself...
LoP Guest
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06-14-2019 08:45 PM

 




Post: #26
RE: New York bans religious exemptions for vaccines
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-14-2019 08:36 PM)
I mean we could go back and research polio paralysis and the polio vaccine or cancer and vaccines... or even HIV and vaccines. The argument is there that they are hardly safe- at least in historical context.

They are much, much safer than the diseases they prevent.
LoP Guest
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06-14-2019 08:45 PM

 




Post: #27
RE: New York bans religious exemptions for vaccines
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-14-2019 08:42 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-14-2019 08:36 PM)
I mean we could go back and research polio paralysis and the polio vaccine or cancer and vaccines... or even HIV and vaccines. The argument is there that they are hardly safe- at least in historical context.

And BTW, that comes from a true "expert" in the field, Dr. Maurice Hilleman from the Merck vaccine division itself...

https://www.google.com/search?q=dr.+maur...+interview

(cuz I know how much you like google. learn something....)
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06-14-2019 08:45 PM

 




Post: #28
RE: New York bans religious exemptions for vaccines
Mr ifnoc nli  Wrote: (06-14-2019 08:40 PM)
Rover  Wrote: (06-14-2019 06:50 PM)
And so it begins, healthier planet.

Rofl

You first. You too Popeye. All you atheists. Go! Be a dutiful citizen.

Bring a needle near me. I fu#king dare ya! You all want war don't ya?
This isn't going to end well. Now please run along, and go get all your shots, you ignorant dawgs!

I get my vaccines because I'm not a deluded idiot.
LoP Guest
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06-14-2019 08:46 PM

 




Post: #29
RE: New York bans religious exemptions for vaccines
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-14-2019 08:33 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-14-2019 08:29 PM)
Nope. I just believe in things like facts and evidence. Positing hypotheticals is stupid. I could just as easily turn around and ask you, What if it was your baby in an iron lung or dying of measles? Would you be so anti-vaxx then?

One thing happened FAR more frequently than the other, and that's well documented.

There's a reason people line up for vaccinations and wait for hours or even days, in countries where these diseases are still common.

I don't believe in control. I believe in freedom and liberty still. Something this society has grown away from.

What about the freedom of others not to catch measles from your ignorant ass?
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06-14-2019 08:49 PM

 




Post: #30
RE: New York bans religious exemptions for vaccines
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-14-2019 08:46 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-14-2019 08:33 PM)
I don't believe in control. I believe in freedom and liberty still. Something this society has grown away from.

What about the freedom of others not to catch measles from your ignorant ass?

If vaccines work, and you're vaccinated then that's not your problem now is it?
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