News
news New biometric database can identify people through scars, tattoos and even their voice
news Cattle Are Being Mutilated And Killed In Eastern Oregon
news Insider Interview on Skinwalker Ranch History
news Squirrels Can Speak Bird
news US Navy pilot says mystery ‘dark mass’ emerged from ocean and swallowed torpedo
news Cognitive scientist says we see things as we need to, rather than as they are.
news A Movie You Control With Your Mind
news Radioactive Cloud That Blanketed Europe Traced to Russian Nuclear Facility
news Organization Says It’s Obtained ‘Exotic’ Metals Unknown to Science
news The frightening supernatural story of the Black Bird of Chernobyl
news Recent UFO Encounters With Navy Pilots Occurred Constantly Across Multiple Squadrons


Username:
Password: or Register
 
Thread Rating:
  • 3 Vote(s) - 2.33 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5

will the Liberal carbon tax really mean paying more for everything?
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ
☇☇Vocem sine nomine audivit!☇☇
User ID: kaput
01-12-2018 04:58 AM

Posts: 31,234




Post: #1
will the Liberal carbon tax really mean paying more for everything?
Advertisement
Quote:All Canadians can now expect to pay more for everything." — Conservative party fundraising email

As Canadians shivered through a brutal cold snap in recent weeks, anyone on the Conservative Party of Canada’s fundraising list may have felt they had even more cause to shudder.

"Speaking of Liberals with their hands in your pockets, do you know what comes into effect tomorrow? Justin Trudeau’s carbon tax," warned a New Year’s Eve email from Dustin Van Vugt, the party’s executive director.

A week later came a second email, this one offering a familiar Conservative carbon−tax warning: "all Canadians can now expect to pay more for everything," it said.

"No matter where you live in Canada, you will be feeling the pinch from this Liberal tax grab."

But did the Liberal carbon price plan indeed take effect everywhere Jan. 1? And will it indeed raise the price on "everything" everywhere?

Spoiler alert: The Canadian Press Baloney Meter is a dispassionate examination of political statements culminating in a ranking of accuracy on a scale of "no baloney" to "full of baloney" (complete methodology below).

This one earns a rating of "a lot of baloney." Here’s why.
LoP Guest
lop guest
User ID: 1337
01-12-2018 05:05 AM

 




Post: #2
RE: will the Liberal carbon tax really mean paying more for everything?
Taxes are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer. ALWAYS. There are no altruistic, kind hearted entities providing services who are willing to provide them for less money. And anybody who believes you is a bigger fool than you are.
LoP Guest
lop guest
User ID: 1337
01-12-2018 05:15 AM

 




Post: #3
RE: will the Liberal carbon tax really mean paying more for everything?
It's amazing how people will now tell blatant, flat-out obvious lies and try to pass them off as truth. "Believe me, not your own lying eyes, ears, or common sense."

"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."

"Shovel ready jobs."

Just outrageous, laughably ridiculous statements that are easily revealed as total BS. Now passed off as fact.
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ
☇☇Vocem sine nomine audivit!☇☇
User ID: 1337
01-12-2018 05:15 AM

Posts: 31,234




Post: #4
RE: will the Liberal carbon tax really mean paying more for everything?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-12-2018 05:05 AM)
Taxes are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer. ALWAYS. There are no altruistic, kind hearted entities providing services who are willing to provide them for less money. And anybody who believes you is a bigger fool than you are.

you didn't read the article.
LoP Guest
lop guest
User ID: 1337
01-12-2018 05:17 AM

 




Post: #5
RE: will the Liberal carbon tax really mean paying more for everything?
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (01-12-2018 05:15 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-12-2018 05:05 AM)
Taxes are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer. ALWAYS. There are no altruistic, kind hearted entities providing services who are willing to provide them for less money. And anybody who believes you is a bigger fool than you are.

you didn't read the article.

And I'm not going to. Taxes are ALWAYS, without exception, passed on to the consumer. It is laughably ridiculous to suggest otherwise.
LoP Guest
lop guest
User ID: 1337
01-12-2018 05:17 AM

 




Post: #6
RE: will the Liberal carbon tax really mean paying more for everything?
It did in Australia, cockhead.

That's why we have a Liberal (conservative government) now...

Hopefully the USA were watching and learned the lesson before making the same mistake.
LoP Guest
lop guest
User ID: 1337
01-12-2018 05:19 AM

 




Post: #7
RE: will the Liberal carbon tax really mean paying more for everything?
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (01-12-2018 05:15 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-12-2018 05:05 AM)
Taxes are ALWAYS passed on to the consumer. ALWAYS. There are no altruistic, kind hearted entities providing services who are willing to provide them for less money. And anybody who believes you is a bigger fool than you are.

you didn't read the article.

I don't swim with sharks, either. If you sent me an article saying that Great Whites were docile and only ate brussels sprouts, I DEFINITELY wouldn't do it. Because I'd already know it was BS.
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ
☇☇Vocem sine nomine audivit!☇☇
User ID: 1337
01-12-2018 05:23 AM

Posts: 31,234




Post: #8
RE: will the Liberal carbon tax really mean paying more for everything?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-12-2018 05:17 AM)
It did in Australia, cockhead.

That's why we have a Liberal (conservative government) now...

Hopefully the USA were watching and learned the lesson before making the same mistake.

you have no idea the many ways I know how much that is complete and utter bullshit

in fact this current government has done nothing but cause energy prices to skyrocket.

any fkn Aussie will tell you that.. stupid wanker.

earth to moron: this article is from Canada

facepalm
(This post was last modified: 01-12-2018 05:26 AM by spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ.)
Яudis
The Contrarian
User ID: 1337
01-12-2018 05:29 AM

Posts: 12,142




Post: #9
RE: will the Liberal carbon tax really mean paying more for everything?
If you Own a Home.
Sink 0.5 % Rise in annual tax per sink
Sited: methane from sewer lines greenhouse gases!

Toilets 0.5% per toilet.
Sited: methane from sewer lines greenhouse gases!

Stove in kitchen 1.0% Increase per stove.
Sited: Co2 from cooking.

Swimming pool 1.5% annual increase.
Sited: chlorine emissions.

If you Rent Your LANDLORD will have to pay those
TAX so your RENT will Go UP!

If You own a CAR You will be TAXED Per Mile on your annual registration.

The Human Life TAX if you have a CHILD HUMAN, You will be taxed for the [email protected] and Breaths the CHILD takes!

Your [email protected] and Breaths will be taxed, You [email protected] methane and breath out Co2!

SO GET ready to totally BEF#CKED Up TheASS if a LIBERAL PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRAT ever gets back into OFFICE!
Tissue Jhikpghf
FACTORIES and Business will also pay major tax SO all PRODUCTS will increase in PRICE!

Your Electricity & Water will also increase.

The LIBERALS Hate Machines and the Invention of the Cotton Gin!
And the Invention of the tractor! These 2 simple inventions made it unnecessary to own slaves! The invention of these 2 machines indirectly caused the American CIVIL WAR!

April 12, 1861 – May 13, 1865 4 of the bloodiest years in American history!
152 years later and The LIBERALS are STILL Pissed Off about LOSING their SLAVES!

This is WHY they want to be in control of a WELFARE State and Control Minorities!

They will [email protected]#CK your Pay Check Before you ever see it in many cases!

(This post was last modified: 01-12-2018 05:56 AM by Яudis.)
LoP Guest
lop guest
User ID: 1337
01-12-2018 05:42 AM

 




Post: #10
RE: will the Liberal carbon tax really mean paying more for everything?
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (01-12-2018 05:23 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-12-2018 05:17 AM)
It did in Australia, cockhead.

That's why we have a Liberal (conservative government) now...

Hopefully the USA were watching and learned the lesson before making the same mistake.

you have no idea the many ways I know how much that is complete and utter bullshit

in fact this current government has done nothing but cause energy prices to skyrocket.

any fkn Aussie will tell you that.. stupid wanker.

earth to moron: this article is from Canada

facepalm

If you were an Aussie you would know that Gillard started the rise in energy prices when she introduced the tax we were 'never going to have', you idiot.

The South Australian Labor govt shut down Port Augusta power station causing their increases in power costs and causing power shortages.

The Victorian Labor govt shut down Hazelwood causing Victorian energy prices to skyrocket.

Stop commenting on things you don't understand.

You fukwits, your flawed ideology, you ridiculous attempts at trying to fix something that ain't broke has fuckedAustralia.

I know the article is from Canada, you moron.

Canada is as good as f**ked if they're even contemplating this idiocy.

As I said, I hope America is watching and learning.

Mods, could we give this wanker its own forum to spam?
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ
☇☇Vocem sine nomine audivit!☇☇
User ID: 1337
01-12-2018 05:47 AM

Posts: 31,234




Post: #11
RE: will the Liberal carbon tax really mean paying more for everything?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-12-2018 05:42 AM)
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (01-12-2018 05:23 AM)
you have no idea the many ways I know how much that is complete and utter bullshit

in fact this current government has done nothing but cause energy prices to skyrocket.

any fkn Aussie will tell you that.. stupid wanker.

earth to moron: this article is from Canada

facepalm

If you were an Aussie you would know that Gillard started the rise in energy prices when she introduced the tax we were 'never going to have', you idiot.

The South Australian Labor govt shut down Port Augusta power station causing their increases in power costs and causing power shortages.

The Victorian Labor govt shut down Hazelwood causing Victorian energy prices to skyrocket.

Stop commenting on things you don't understand.

You fukwits, your flawed ideology, you ridiculous attempts at trying to fix something that ain't broke has fuckedAustralia.

I know the article is from Canada, you moron.

Canada is as good as f**ked if they're even contemplating this idiocy.

As I said, I hope America is watching and learning.

Mods, could we give this wanker its own forum to spam?

fake liberal Australian eh?

very good.. but fake shill troll is obvious

you suck at your job

don't forget to not mention Vlad Putin you fck stooge whore

Rofl
LoP Guest
lop guest
User ID: 1337
01-12-2018 05:52 AM

 




Post: #12
RE: will the Liberal carbon tax really mean paying more for everything?
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (01-12-2018 05:47 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-12-2018 05:42 AM)
If you were an Aussie you would know that Gillard started the rise in energy prices when she introduced the tax we were 'never going to have', you idiot.

The South Australian Labor govt shut down Port Augusta power station causing their increases in power costs and causing power shortages.

The Victorian Labor govt shut down Hazelwood causing Victorian energy prices to skyrocket.

Stop commenting on things you don't understand.

You fukwits, your flawed ideology, you ridiculous attempts at trying to fix something that ain't broke has fuckedAustralia.

I know the article is from Canada, you moron.

Canada is as good as f**ked if they're even contemplating this idiocy.

As I said, I hope America is watching and learning.

Mods, could we give this wanker its own forum to spam?

fake liberal Australian eh?

very good.. but fake shill troll is obvious

you suck at your job

don't forget to not mention Vlad Putin you fck stooge whore

Rofl

You'refucked.

You know I'm right...you've got no comeback.

Lmonkey

Sad little flog.
LoP Guest
lop guest
User ID: 1337
01-12-2018 05:55 AM

 




Post: #13
RE: will the Liberal carbon tax really mean paying more for everything?
I know an idea is stupid when you start promoting it.
Headass
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ
☇☇Vocem sine nomine audivit!☇☇
User ID: 1337
01-12-2018 05:59 AM

Posts: 31,234




Post: #14
RE: will the Liberal carbon tax really mean paying more for everything?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-12-2018 05:52 AM)
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (01-12-2018 05:47 AM)
fake liberal Australian eh?

very good.. but fake shill troll is obvious

you suck at your job

don't forget to not mention Vlad Putin you fck stooge whore

Rofl

You'refucked.

You know I'm right...you've got no comeback.

Lmonkey

Sad little flog.

comback?

all that is all liberal party talking points.. and totally wrong and misrepresented with the usual fkn embellishment from pissweak nice person mongers like you.
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ
☇☇Vocem sine nomine audivit!☇☇
User ID: 1337
01-12-2018 06:01 AM

Posts: 31,234




Post: #15
RE: will the Liberal carbon tax really mean paying more for everything?
Quote:The facts

In 2016, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau moved on his campaign promise to introduce a national price on carbon, with plans for a levy of at least $10 per tonne starting in 2018, increasing to $50 per tonne by 2022.

Provinces have the space to implement their own systems to hit that benchmark, but those that don’t will see federal taxes added. Late last year, Environment Minister Catherine McKenna said provinces would have until September to submit their plans for review.

If they don’t meet federal expectations, Ottawa will top up or impose the federal plan on those provinces with a minimum price of $20 per tonne starting on Jan. 1, 2019.

At the end of 2017, four provinces had a carbon price plan already in place: carbon taxes or levies in Alberta and B.C., and a cap−and−trade system in Ontario and Quebec. Alberta is the only province that changed its plan on Jan. 1, raising the price from $20 to $30 per tonne.

Alberta’s estimates suggest a two−parent family with two children will pay another $67.50 for home−heating natural gas this year, another $100 to fill their gas tanks, and between $70 and $105 more for other things.

If that same family earns less than $95,000 a year, it already receives up to $360 annually in a direct carbon levy rebate from the provincial government to help offset the costs of the carbon tax — a rebate that will increase by up to $180 a year in 2018.

Everywhere else in Canada, nothing else changed on Jan. 1 at all. Indeed, the federal government has yet to even introduce the legislation that would allow it to impose a carbon plan on those provinces without one. It is expected in the coming months.
The experts

Simply saying the price of everything will go up isn’t telling the whole story, said Chris Ragan, a McGill economics professor and the chair of Canada’s Ecofiscal Commission.

Electricity produced from renewable sources, such as hydroelectricity or wind power, won’t be charged a carbon price because it doesn’t generate emissions; only 20 per cent of Canada’s electricity supply comes from burning fossil fuels.

Gasoline, home heating fuel and diesel will be directly affected. The impact on consumer goods that don’t contain carbon themselves will be harder to measure, but companies that pay more for electricity for manufacturing, or for the gasoline to ship their products, could pass some of those costs to consumers.

Services like health care, insurance, legal fees and mortgages comprise about 70 per cent of where Canadians spend their money, Ragan added. Any carbon−related increase in those services would likely be very small to negligible, he said.

For example, even if an insurance company has to pay more for its heat and electricity, dividing those costs among its customers won’t result in an increase of more than a few cents.

"I guess in principle, I would probably say there is nothing where the price won’t go up, but in practice there will be a whole range of things where you won’t even notice a price increase."

Jennifer Winter, the director of energy and environmental policy at the University of Calgary’s School of Public Policy, wrote a blog post last spring estimating the impact in each province of the carbon price.

At $50 per tonne, a rate not expected for another five years, the indirect impact of a carbon price on non−carbon−related goods and services would average about $186 a year. According to Winter, the total impact would be an average of $853 at $50 a tonne by 2022.

In provinces where electricity mostly comes from renewable sources, power bills won’t be affected, so at $50 per tonne, Manitoba and Quebec ratepayers won’t pay anything more because of a carbon price, while those in B.C., P.E.I. and Ontario will pay an average of $5, $7, and $28 more per year, respectively.
The verdict

Only one province saw a carbon price change on Jan. 1, and it wasn’t directly related to the federal government’s carbon price policy. That policy won’t enforce a minimum price on carbon everywhere for another year.

Only Canadians living in Alberta would be impacted by a carbon price this month
methodology:
https://www.nationalobserver.com/2018/01...everything
Advertisement










Contact UsConspiracy Forum. No reg. required! Return to TopReturn to ContentRSS Syndication