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WTF kind of “features” are these in new cars now?
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RE: WTF kind of “features” are these in new cars now?
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-13-2018 09:09 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-13-2018 09:06 PM)
Just buy a 1960s car, it is rapture and emp proof, and you can work on it yourself.

Now back to work slave or are you paid to post?

Yeah because I want to drive a 60 year old car.

My car is from 2004 and it's being eaten alive by rust. No thanks.

I've owned and restored old muscle cars. They take more effort to maintain, but they're pretty solid.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-13-2018 09:06 PM)
Just buy a 1960s car, it is rapture and emp proof, and you can work on it yourself.

Now back to work slave or are you paid to post?

Either that or move to Cuba. chuckle



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Nice thread OP. 5 Star post.

You should submit your exact post comments to the Readers Letters of all car/truck/motoring magazines...

http://magazinelib.com/?s=motor
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Post: #49
RE: WTF kind of “features” are these in new cars now?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-13-2018 10:28 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-13-2018 09:06 PM)
Just buy a 1960s car, it is rapture and emp proof, and you can work on it yourself.

Now back to work slave or are you paid to post?

Somebody lied to you, nothing is EMP proof You have an alternator and points that will burn up.
It is easy to work on I will give you that one.


An alternator does not prevent the engine from starting, it is part of the charging system, and a generator does not have any diodes it is completely emp proof.

Points do wear out, just like tires, so whats the difference.

I can rebuild any part of my 1960's cars, so scarcity of parts is never an issue, if I need a part, I make one.

Plus my cars increase in value, not depreciate the second I drive it off the lot, chuckle
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RE: WTF kind of “features” are these in new cars now?
Bronco Bama  Wrote: (02-14-2018 12:42 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-13-2018 09:09 PM)
Yeah because I want to drive a 60 year old car.

My car is from 2004 and it's being eaten alive by rust. No thanks.

I've owned and restored old muscle cars. They take more effort to maintain, but they're pretty solid.

Your kidding right, if you really did restore muscle cars, then you did it with either NOS or aftermarket parts right?

I do frame off restorations on my cars, that means that everything is new or refurbished to like new, so unless you do this all in one go, then of course the car has thousands of other parts that are 50 plus years old that might need attention.

I touch every single part on the car, and if you dont, think about the quality of that part that was left untouched, without maintenance for 50 years, and it only failed now??

You either care for you car like your child, or you abuse it like a throw away item.
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RE: WTF kind of “features” are these in new cars now?
Spiddy  Wrote: (02-14-2018 12:51 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-13-2018 09:06 PM)
Just buy a 1960s car, it is rapture and emp proof, and you can work on it yourself.

Now back to work slave or are you paid to post?

Either that or move to Cuba. chuckle

Cuba has the cars from before the bay of pigs, like the 50's.

How much is a cuban 57 chevy worth???

Mucho Dinero, chuckle
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RE: WTF kind of “features” are these in new cars now?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-13-2018 09:05 PM)
I want a car manufacturer to make a 100% mechanical car again. Make it the best they can, with modern manufacturing processes, but 100% mechanical.

Something that could survive an EMP with no problems. I would love that.

It would probably be super cheap to fix and maintain too.

I agree new cars have way too many bells and whistles now. I don't need a butt warmer in my car seat. Or Sirius XM radio. Or 99% of the other electronics. They have you paying more for the bells and whistles than the damn engine!

Problem is that almost all car manufactures are now owned by the one big corporation who are pushing the same global platform agenda across all brands.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-14-2018 02:06 AM)
Spiddy  Wrote: (02-14-2018 12:51 AM)
Either that or move to Cuba. chuckle

Cuba has the cars from before the bay of pigs, like the 50's.

How much is a cuban 57 chevy worth???

Mucho Dinero, chuckle

Not really. Parts were hard to come by for Cubans due to trade restrictions, so they had to use whatever they could find. Seats out of a Caddy might be in a chevy, an engine from a dodge truck might be in one, who knows.

Often..body work was done with plaster and chicken wire.

Doubt there are many "mint" old cars there.

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Post: #54
RE: WTF kind of “features” are these in new cars now?
Estrella  Wrote: (02-14-2018 02:43 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-13-2018 09:05 PM)
I want a car manufacturer to make a 100% mechanical car again. Make it the best they can, with modern manufacturing processes, but 100% mechanical.

Something that could survive an EMP with no problems. I would love that.

It would probably be super cheap to fix and maintain too.

I agree new cars have way too many bells and whistles now. I don't need a butt warmer in my car seat. Or Sirius XM radio. Or 99% of the other electronics. They have you paying more for the bells and whistles than the damn engine!

Problem is that almost all car manufactures are now owned by the one big corporation who are pushing the same global platform agenda across all brands.

You can still build your own car today, just get a pre 70's vin tag, and make whatever you want, at what ever level of comfort and performance you like.

It might last for another 50 years also, Hugs
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RE: WTF kind of “features” are these in new cars now?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-14-2018 02:04 AM)
Bronco Bama  Wrote: (02-14-2018 12:42 AM)
I've owned and restored old muscle cars. They take more effort to maintain, but they're pretty solid.

Your kidding right, if you really did restore muscle cars, then you did it with either NOS or aftermarket parts right?

I do frame off restorations on my cars, that means that everything is new or refurbished to like new, so unless you do this all in one go, then of course the car has thousands of other parts that are 50 plus years old that might need attention.

I touch every single part on the car, and if you dont, think about the quality of that part that was left untouched, without maintenance for 50 years, and it only failed now??

You either care for you car like your child, or you abuse it like a throw away item.

I bet in a couple years I can take a small portable scanner and scan your car, and create 3d models which I can then use to print out any component in any material and color you desire.

But by then they will ban all self driving vehicles.
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Post: #56
RE: WTF kind of “features” are these in new cars now?
King Doom  Wrote: (02-14-2018 02:44 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-14-2018 02:06 AM)
Cuba has the cars from before the bay of pigs, like the 50's.

How much is a cuban 57 chevy worth???

Mucho Dinero, chuckle

Not really. Parts were hard to come by for Cubans due to trade restrictions, so they had to use whatever they could find. Seats out of a Caddy might be in a chevy, an engine from a dodge truck might be in one, who knows.

Often..body work was done with plaster and chicken wire.

Doubt there are many "mint" old cars there.

But now you can buy a whole new shell for some older cars:
http://dynacornbodies.com/

Rare ones fetch the highest prices, like right hand drive and ones owned by Fidel, chuckle
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RE: WTF kind of “features” are these in new cars now?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-14-2018 02:52 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-14-2018 02:04 AM)
Your kidding right, if you really did restore muscle cars, then you did it with either NOS or aftermarket parts right?

I do frame off restorations on my cars, that means that everything is new or refurbished to like new, so unless you do this all in one go, then of course the car has thousands of other parts that are 50 plus years old that might need attention.

I touch every single part on the car, and if you dont, think about the quality of that part that was left untouched, without maintenance for 50 years, and it only failed now??

You either care for you car like your child, or you abuse it like a throw away item.

I bet in a couple years I can take a small portable scanner and scan your car, and create 3d models which I can then use to print out any component in any material and color you desire.

But by then they will ban all self driving vehicles.

Let me take that back, they won't ban them everyone just high population density areas, urban and suburban roads along with federal interstate highways but not county or local rural roads.

So all the classic car enthusiasts will move out into the sticks.
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RE: WTF kind of “features” are these in new cars now?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-14-2018 02:52 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-14-2018 02:04 AM)
Your kidding right, if you really did restore muscle cars, then you did it with either NOS or aftermarket parts right?

I do frame off restorations on my cars, that means that everything is new or refurbished to like new, so unless you do this all in one go, then of course the car has thousands of other parts that are 50 plus years old that might need attention.

I touch every single part on the car, and if you dont, think about the quality of that part that was left untouched, without maintenance for 50 years, and it only failed now??

You either care for you car like your child, or you abuse it like a throw away item.

I bet in a couple years I can take a small portable scanner and scan your car, and create 3d models which I can then use to print out any component in any material and color you desire.

But by then they will ban all self driving vehicles.

NO worries, my flying car is almost finished.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-13-2018 09:02 PM)
Getting to be time to buy a new or almost new car again sometime this year so I’ve been looking around. WTF is going on with some of these new “features” being offered up? I mean...automakers have ALWAYS unsold you non-essential things of convenience or luxury or even sold you a certain image that you’d portray to the world by being an owner of the new whatevermobile. But some of the newest design and engineering decisions are just utterly mystifying to me and I can think of no sane person or possible use case for having some of these.

For example:

1. The new Chevy pickups have push botton motorized TAILGATES of all things? Why? WTF for? So now I dont have to be “burdened” with using a simple handle and can instead walk around to the front my truck get in, turn on the power or engine, press a button and proceed to wait for 20 seconds until I can turn my car off again and go get my sh*t unloaded? Also, add to this category motorized SUV hatches. Nothing says “convenience like freezing your ass off while you stare at your hatch opening and closing in slow motion.

2. Touchscreens f*cking EVERYWHERE. In fact, the upcoming Subaru ascent is said to have eliminated ALL physical buttons and levers...even for mirror adjustments and windows in favor of more expensive and buggy capacitive touch-pads...and go f*#k yourself if you live in the Northern half of the country and might wanna wear gloves some morning when it’s -20 below out.

3. 4G cellular WIFI hotspots. Can somebody tell me what POSSIBLE f*cking benefit there is for paying an extra monthly fee to get the EXACT GODDAMN SAME internet connection I already have on my phone? It’s not any faster, or better coverage or anything...and all smartphones can pretty much act as hotspots for a laptop or something if you need it in a pinch...but I now I have the luxury of just paying double if I wanted to??? If they were gonna do it...Why in the HELL wouldn’t they try it with a satellite data connection so you could at least say it offered guaranteed coverage even in remote areas as long as you had an unobstructed path to the sky?? Might of use for some more than others...but at least it’s SOME kind of new functionality.

4. Push button ignitions and completely keyless entry. OK...the keyless entry seems kinda cool...but some of the newest cars have ZERO physical locks on them. Not even just ONE to use on the drivers side as an emergency option. Better hope the weird non-standard watch battery in your keyfob doesn’t take a sh*t when your doors are locked, huh?

5. Honda Civics bizarre new “sport mode” on their CVT transmissions. I sh*t you not...Honda successfully engineered a really good, reliable, and efficient CVT...and then ALSO engineered additional moving parts and a button to press so you can artificially make it “feel” like you have traditional gears and undo all the gains in acceleration and fuel efficiency. Does a company really want a consumer that stupid??

6. Cars with zero option to carry a spare tire. Again...I sh*t you not. Some of the new 2019’s won’t even have a PLACE to put even a little toy tire donut.

7. BMW has decided to turn the goddamn radio off unless you pay a $90 annual “subscription fee” for the Apple CarPlay system. Mind you...this isn’t APPLE charging/requiring this nor is it just some added Services like unlimited streaming or something. Just we want $90/yr or we’ll turn the f*cking radio and nav system off because f*#k you.

8. Non-upgradable “Infotainment” systems in general. OK...I’ll admit it’s kinda cool to have my phone integrate with the car and google maps instead of less frequently updated garmin systems. However...every phone or tablet I’ve ever owned is a useless piece of sh*t in about 3 years as new operating systems, industry standard etc require ever faster processors and more memory. No problem...but SHOULDNT we then naturally expect that the $3,500 android based nav and Music system will be similarly useless in about 5 years TOPS? Call me old fashioned...but I still want to be able to play the f*cking radio in a six year old vehicle that I paid $50-$60k for and 3rd part solutions seem unlikely has cars become ever more computerized and proprietary.

I’m sure there’s a million more...but you guys get the idea.
Who is asking for this sh*t?
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OK so we stick with a manual transmission, low end car such as a Hyundai Accent which is what I drive. Stick to a hatchback or wagon so you have room for a spare tire.
I would stick with low end cars, esp with manual transmission or a truck like Nissan Frontier and again the manual transmission - low end more basic version.
That stuff you have up there is for the high end cars and trucks so stay away from those

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LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-14-2018 02:52 AM)
King Doom  Wrote: (02-14-2018 02:44 AM)
Not really. Parts were hard to come by for Cubans due to trade restrictions, so they had to use whatever they could find. Seats out of a Caddy might be in a chevy, an engine from a dodge truck might be in one, who knows.

Often..body work was done with plaster and chicken wire.

Doubt there are many "mint" old cars there.

But now you can buy a whole new shell for some older cars:
http://dynacornbodies.com/

Rare ones fetch the highest prices, like right hand drive and ones owned by Fidel, chuckle

:drool: !
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