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$$->PWNED ! by the MOB <-$$
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RE: $$->PWNED ! by the MOB <-$$
NormalIsSubjective  Wrote: (02-11-2019 08:05 PM)
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (02-11-2019 07:10 AM)
I see you found it..

He certainly has had some 5 star help from the President and US Senate ,ALEC, AFP, NRA .. etc etc kick-starting it back to life !

nice work, chaps..


Lets start by putting this in the correct context.

Your assertion:

"Putin still says the destruction of the Berlin wall was the saddest day in his countries history.. this is a fact"

Is not a fact, as I showed with the correct quote from Putins speech, namely:

Annual Address to the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation

April 25, 2005


"Above all, we should acknowledge that the collapse of the Soviet Union was a major geopolitical disaster of the century. As for the Russian nation, it became a genuine drama. Tens of millions of our co-citizens and compatriots found themselves outside Russian territory. Moreover, the epidemic of disintegration infected Russia itself.

Individual savings were depreciated, and old ideals destroyed. Many institutions were disbanded or reformed carelessly. Terrorist intervention and the Khasavyurt capitulation that followed damaged the country's integrity. Oligarchic groups – possessing absolute control over information channels – served exclusively their own corporate interests. Mass poverty began to be seen as the norm. And all this was happening against the backdrop of a dramatic economic downturn, unstable finances, and the paralysis of the social sphere."

Let's also not forget the "kick-starting" (though some may say kicking Russia when it was down) started way before the current admin.

By Walter Pincus, May 15, 1994

At the time of the August 1991 attempted coup against then-Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev, the Bush administration gave intelligence support to Boris Yeltsin that helped the Russian president emerge as a hero from that event, according to an article today in The Atlantic Monthly...

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By MICHAEL KRAMER, June 24, 2001,00.html


By Alexander Zaitchik and Mark Ames, November 30, 2007

“A Victory for Russian Democracy”
—Title of a New York Times editorial, days after the ODIHR-approved 1996 presidential election

“Exit, Russian Democracy”
—Title of a New York Times editorial, days before the ODIHR-boycotted 2007 Duma elections

When Russia told the OSCE that their election monitoring mission would be severely limited last month, it seemed as though Putin had fired an authoritarian shot out of the blue, baring his inner Stalinist once and for all. The West reacted as if the OSCE was the crucifix of democracy, and Putin’s rejection of that crucifix was evil rejecting good.

Well, that’s one way of looking at it. Another way is that the recent Russia-OSCE door-slamming episode is the inevitable outcome of years of cynical Western manipulation of an organization that once held enormous promise and impeccable credentials, but is now with good reason considered a propaganda tool for the West.

If that last sentence sounds like the paranoid rant of a Putin-era silovik revanchist, then think again. It’s the view held by none other than the man who headed the OSCE’s 1996 election mission in Russia, Michael Meadowcroft...

Lest we forget what led to this thread.
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