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Governor Northam has blackface, Elizabeth Warren has Indianface
Michael-AK
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Post: #151
RE: Governor Northam has blackface, Elizabeth Warren has Indianface
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269346  Wrote: (02-11-2019 08:52 PM)
Michael-AK  Wrote: (02-11-2019 08:31 PM)
That is not mockingly painting your face.

She said it with pride. She did not wear it as grim joke.

So if I say I'm black with pride, it's okay? How is telling a lie you know to be a lie "with pride"? You're justifying a racially insensitive act that victimized real natives. News flash, it's not necessary to know her mental state to know that a reasonable person in her situation, born white, raised white is not a Native American either culturally or in fact. Even if she had distant ancestry, if someone is not raised substantially within that culture, it's not appropriate to claim it. If I had a 1/64th black ancestry, it wouldn't be acceptable for me to claim to be black, especially if I was raised by my white (one 100% and the other 31/32th white).

If you say that you are black with pride, that is not blackface.

Claim whatever you want, bro.
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Post: #152
RE: Governor Northam has blackface, Elizabeth Warren has Indianface
269346  Wrote: (02-11-2019 08:53 PM)
Michael-AK  Wrote: (02-11-2019 08:31 PM)
That is not mockingly painting your face.

She said it with pride. She did not wear it as grim joke.

Also for one constantly demanding "proof", where do you get off inferring her mental state? What evidence do you have she said it with pride and that she didn't knowingly tell a lie? It's time for you to live up to your own rules.

OK. It appeared to be pride. I do not know any more than you what she was thinking, which is nothing.
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Post: #153
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-11-2019 08:42 PM)
Michael-AK  Wrote: (02-11-2019 08:32 PM)
Yes it does.

They all say they thought of her as white.

They only promoted her as being NA after she had the position.



Do you have any links to support your wild ass claims?

She also at that time claimed she had only started making the claim in the late 90s which is proven false.

Where she came from had state affirmative action practices in place in regards to Native American tribal membership.

Warren is a liar. I expect it from all politicians.

And I have not seen proof that she used NA identity for personal gain beyond what the "white" lie gave her on campaigns.

I hope she falls off a podium so someone with backbone and fewer skeletons in the closet can step up.
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Post: #154
RE: Governor Northam has blackface, Elizabeth Warren has Indianface
Michael-AK  Wrote: (02-11-2019 09:39 PM)
269346  Wrote: (02-11-2019 08:53 PM)
Also for one constantly demanding "proof", where do you get off inferring her mental state? What evidence do you have she said it with pride and that she didn't knowingly tell a lie? It's time for you to live up to your own rules.

OK. It appeared to be pride. I do not know any more than you what she was thinking, which is nothing.

Unlike you, I didn't base my case on whether she had a credible belief in laying claim to it or not. I only argued that even if she had such a belief, it still would not have justified her claiming it, since that distinction is not merely to those with ancestry, it's for those who retain the customs and culture of Native American peoples, in short those who have stayed in touch with their roots. It is not sufficient to just have ancestry, and she, being an intelligent person, should have known this.

Trump is the First Estate, Second Estate, Third Estate, and Fourth Estate. In his hands lie the salvation of this nation.
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Post: #155
RE: Governor Northam has blackface, Elizabeth Warren has Indianface
You went from, "She said she was an Indian with pride," to, "I hope she falls off the stage." Jptdknpa

You are one sick puppy.

Trump is the First Estate, Second Estate, Third Estate, and Fourth Estate. In his hands lie the salvation of this nation.
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Post: #156
RE: Governor Northam has blackface, Elizabeth Warren has Indianface
269346  Wrote: (02-11-2019 09:43 PM)
Michael-AK  Wrote: (02-11-2019 09:39 PM)
OK. It appeared to be pride. I do not know any more than you what she was thinking, which is nothing.

Unlike you, I didn't base my case on whether she had a credible belief in laying claim to it or not. I only argued that even if she had such a belief, it still would not have justified her claiming it, since that distinction is not merely to those with ancestry, it's for those who retain the customs and culture of Native American peoples, in short those who have stayed in touch with their roots. It is not sufficient to just have ancestry, and she, being an intelligent person, should have known this.

She claimed descent, which may be true.

She did not claim a cultural heritage.

And she did not paint her face red.



If it is an offense, if people are offended, then blackface is always an offense.
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Post: #157
RE: Governor Northam has blackface, Elizabeth Warren has Indianface
269346  Wrote: (02-11-2019 09:44 PM)
You went from, "She said she was an Indian with pride," to, "I hope she falls off the stage." Jptdknpa

You are one sick puppy.

Podium.

Both are true.

I don't have to lie to myself about what I see just because I chose a side.
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Post: #158
RE: Governor Northam has blackface, Elizabeth Warren has Indianface
269346  Wrote: (02-11-2019 09:43 PM)
Michael-AK  Wrote: (02-11-2019 09:39 PM)
OK. It appeared to be pride. I do not know any more than you what she was thinking, which is nothing.

Unlike you, I didn't base my case on whether she had a credible belief in laying claim to it or not. I only argued that even if she had such a belief, it still would not have justified her claiming it, since that distinction is not merely to those with ancestry, it's for those who retain the customs and culture of Native American peoples, in short those who have stayed in touch with their roots. It is not sufficient to just have ancestry, and she, being an intelligent person, should have known this.

She is a dipstick for taking any identity as a public person.


And I have not seen any proof that she got an education or a job because of her false NA ethnicity.
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Post: #159
RE: Governor Northam has blackface, Elizabeth Warren has Indianface
Michael-AK  Wrote: (02-11-2019 09:49 PM)
269346  Wrote: (02-11-2019 09:43 PM)
Unlike you, I didn't base my case on whether she had a credible belief in laying claim to it or not. I only argued that even if she had such a belief, it still would not have justified her claiming it, since that distinction is not merely to those with ancestry, it's for those who retain the customs and culture of Native American peoples, in short those who have stayed in touch with their roots. It is not sufficient to just have ancestry, and she, being an intelligent person, should have known this.

She is a dipstick for taking any identity as a public person.


And I have not seen any proof that she got an education or a job because of her false NA ethnicity.

Then don't see it. I have no interest in changing your mind.

Trump is the First Estate, Second Estate, Third Estate, and Fourth Estate. In his hands lie the salvation of this nation.
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Post: #160
RE: Governor Northam has blackface, Elizabeth Warren has Indianface
O"bongo is always in Blackface. So what's the joke.
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Post: #161
RE: Governor Northam has blackface, Elizabeth Warren has Indianface
269346  Wrote: (02-11-2019 10:18 PM)
Michael-AK  Wrote: (02-11-2019 09:49 PM)
She is a dipstick for taking any identity as a public person.


And I have not seen any proof that she got an education or a job because of her false NA ethnicity.

Then don't see it. I have no interest in changing your mind.

But you have not actually shown any proof.
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Post: #162
RE: Governor Northam has blackface, Elizabeth Warren has Indianface
Michael-AK  Wrote: (02-12-2019 12:59 AM)
269346  Wrote: (02-11-2019 10:18 PM)
Then don't see it. I have no interest in changing your mind.

But you have not actually shown any proof.

You have not disproven it at all

You offered nothing but a Snopes entry that does not in any way show she has not gained favor by the claim.

There is always preference given in various particularly government positions to groups under various affirmative action edicts.

Many government contracts are awarded solely on minority woman owned companies bypassing competitive bidding process.

The company that built and runs the NSA depository in Nevada a case in point.

That woman is native but was in fact hand picked to head the company to get unfair advantage in government contracts back in the late 90s.
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Post: #163
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The only reason they are making a big deal out of blackface now is because there are black politicians ahead in future office and no white person is going to be allowed to imitate them in dysfunctional office, and probably not be allowed to make cartoons about them either (or spread genuine news).
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