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Newspeak, Doublethink, and Thoughtcrime - an introduction to modern usage
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink

Doublethink is the act of simultaneously accepting two mutually contradictory beliefs as correct, often in distinct social contexts.[1] Doublethink is related to, but differs from, hypocrisy and neutrality. Also related is cognitive dissonance, in which contradictory beliefs cause conflict in one's mind. Doublethink is notable due to a lack of cognitive dissonance—thus the person is completely unaware of any conflict or contradiction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak

"The purpose of Newspeak was not only to provide a medium of expression for the world-view and mental habits proper to the devotees of Ingsoc, but to make all other modes of thought impossible. Its vocabulary was so constructed as to give exact and often very subtle expression to every meaning that a Party member could properly wish to express, while excluding all other meaning and also the possibility of arriving at them by indirect methods. This was done partly by the invention of new words, but chiefly by eliminating undesirable words and stripping such words as remained of unorthodox meanings, and so far as possible of all secondary meaning whatever."[10]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtcrime

A thoughtcrime is an Orwellian neologism used to describe an illegal thought. The term was popularized in the dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell, first published in 1949, wherein thoughtcrime is the criminal act of holding unspoken beliefs or doubts that oppose or question Ingsoc, the ruling party. In the book, the government attempts to control not only the speech and actions, but also the thoughts of its subjects. To entertain unacceptable thoughts is known as crimethink (or wrongthink) in Newspeak, the ideologically purified dialect of the party.[1] Crimestop is a way to avoid crimethink by immediately purging dangerous thoughts from the mind.

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This guy really cares way way too much about the insane illogical compassionless legal definitions that simply aren't true most of the time.

He identifies as a legal citizen by saying "Our department of war became the department of defense" DUDE WAKE UP IT'S NOT YOUR SYSTEM, you are simply a slave of the system and as we all know the slaves do not control or own the system, so it isn't theirs, and any of them thinking it is are clearly delusional for failing to acknowledge the real relationship between them and the legal controllers, right?

How do the legal controllers have any honour when they are using a foreign language to which you have zero access? They could be sharing black's law dictionary definitions and actually fully disclosing the terms of their "agreements" to make the lawful contracts but they don't and thus why legal govt has ZERO REAL CONTRACTS with any of its citizenry, which means the concept of being a legal citizen is a lie based in assumption, right?

This guy must be paid by the CIA to brainwash idiots who are too lazy and ignorant to use muscle testing to figure out the truth for themselves.

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Abstract bs like OP is why most people fail at life, because they idealize things instead of grounding themselves in the truth first.
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OP is literally trying to understand legal definitions by using English to interpret the legal system. How intelligent would you think it to use a French dictionary to interpret a Spanish book? This is exactly what he is doing which is why I suggest he is CIA paid to be brainwashing idiots.
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Not like anyone still left here actually cares about the truth, because most of the posting here is done by bots and psychopaths paid to lie to people, right?
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RE: Newspeak, Doublethink, and Thoughtcrime - an introduction to modern usage
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-14-2019 11:06 PM)
This guy really cares way way too much about the insane illogical compassionless legal definitions that simply aren't true most of the time.

He identifies as a legal citizen by saying "Our department of war became the department of defense" DUDE WAKE UP IT'S NOT YOUR SYSTEM, you are simply a slave of the system and as we all know the slaves do not control or own the system, so it isn't theirs, and any of them thinking it is are clearly delusional for failing to acknowledge the real relationship between them and the legal controllers, right?

How do the legal controllers have any honour when they are using a foreign language to which you have zero access? They could be sharing black's law dictionary definitions and actually fully disclosing the terms of their "agreements" to make the lawful contracts but they don't and thus why legal govt has ZERO REAL CONTRACTS with any of its citizenry, which means the concept of being a legal citizen is a lie based in assumption, right?

This guy must be paid by the CIA to brainwash idiots who are too lazy and ignorant to use muscle testing to figure out the truth for themselves.

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his examples i agree could be better , however he nails the definitions of the terms as theyre used in the book . moreover these same things are being used in our culture more and more and are being more insidious and discrete all of the time. which is all the more reason why people should have them brought to their attention , to realize when they are being used to influence us without our knowlege .

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RE: Newspeak, Doublethink, and Thoughtcrime - an introduction to modern usage
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-14-2019 11:08 PM)
Abstract bs like OP is why most people fail at life, because they idealize things instead of grounding themselves in the truth first.

then teach me oh wise one , what shall i ground myself with which you call truth in order to see thru that which i falsely idealize in your opinion ?

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RE: Newspeak, Doublethink, and Thoughtcrime - an introduction to modern usage
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-14-2019 11:10 PM)
OP is literally trying to understand legal definitions by using English to interpret the legal system. How intelligent would you think it to use a French dictionary to interpret a Spanish book? This is exactly what he is doing which is why I suggest he is CIA paid to be brainwashing idiots.

what language should i be using to interpret the 'legal' system ?

and what do you mean by legal system btw.

in attempting to understand you first accuse me of not being intelligent and yet trying to brainwash people.

what harm is there in disseminating terms from one of the templates upon which the modern totalitarian systems have largely been erected ?

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LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-14-2019 11:11 PM)
Not like anyone still left here actually cares about the truth, because most of the posting here is done by bots and psychopaths paid to lie to people, right?

im not jumping to any conclusions Bump

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LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-14-2019 11:08 PM)
Abstract bs like OP is why most people fail at life, because they idealize things instead of grounding themselves in the truth first.

ALL that PEOPLE need to know is that WE CAME FROM GOD
AND WE GO BACK (HOME) TO GOD.

HOLD THAT THOUGHT IN MIND ALWAYS!

IT REALLY IS THAT SIMPLE.

ITS ANALOGOUS TO BEING IMPRISONED IN A NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMP AND HOLDING THE PICTURE OF YOUR "HOME" IN YOUR HEAD!

GOD WILL VISIT YOU TO "PROVE" THAT HE IS REALLY REAL!

BUT FIRST YOU MUST HAVE 100% ACCEPTANCE OF HIM BEING REAL.

OTHER PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VISITED BY GOD AND TRANSPORTED TO GODS HOME TO WITNESS ITS "REAL" "SPIRITUAL LOVE AND GLORY"!

IGNORE EARTHLY LIES AND ITS EVER CHANGING HISTORY.

PICK "ONE STAR/OR AN AREA OF THE SKY" THAT INTUITIVELY FEELS RIGHT. IMAGINE THAT "ONE STAR/AREA OF THE SKY" IS WHERE THE SPIRIT OF GOD DWELLS IN HIS GLORIOUS HOME.

YOU CAME FROM THAT STAR AND ARE GOING BACK TO THAT STAR.

LET NOTHING SWAY YOU FROM THAT FACT.

ONE DAY GOD WILL APPEAR TO YOU IN ABSOLUTE GLORY TO PROVE THAT HE IS REALLY REAL!

YOUR OWN "HEART" CONTAINS YOUR OWN PERSONAL "REAL SPARK" OF GOD HIMSELF!

YOUR HEART CONTAINS "A TINY SPIRIT SPARK" OF GODS ETERNAL LOVE FLAME!

CONCENTRATING "WITHOUT" (ON THE STAR/SKY AREA) AND "WITHIN" ON YOUR "DIVINE GOD SPIRIT SPARK" WILL BRING GOD HIMSELF FOR REAL TO YOU!

BE PATIENT. CONCENTRATE "WITHOUT" AND "WITHIN" WHENEVER YOU FEEL LIKE THE WORLD IS GOING INSANER AND INSANER!

CONTINUE TO LIVE YOUR NORMAL LIFE WHILE REMEMBERING THE ONLY THING THAT IS OF ULTIMATE IMPORTANCE - IS YOUR HELPING BRINGING GODS "INFINITE LOVE" TO YOU/TO EARTH - TO TAKE EVERYONE "HOME"!
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RE: Newspeak, Doublethink, and Thoughtcrime - an introduction to modern usage
LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-14-2019 11:08 PM)
Abstract bs like OP is why most people fail at life, because they idealize things instead of grounding themselves in the truth first.

The truth consists of killing infants. Failing at being a child murderer seems like a laudable goal.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-15-2019 02:34 PM)
IS YOUR HELPING BRINGING GODS "INFINITE LOVE" TO YOU/TO EARTH - TO TAKE EVERYONE "HOME"!

You mean "kill everybody"?
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prosthetic brain  Wrote: (02-14-2019 01:12 PM)



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink

Doublethink is the act of simultaneously accepting two mutually contradictory beliefs as correct, often in distinct social contexts.[1] Doublethink is related to, but differs from, hypocrisy and neutrality. Also related is cognitive dissonance, in which contradictory beliefs cause conflict in one's mind. Doublethink is notable due to a lack of cognitive dissonance—thus the person is completely unaware of any conflict or contradiction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspeak

"The purpose of Newspeak was not only to provide a medium of expression for the world-view and mental habits proper to the devotees of Ingsoc, but to make all other modes of thought impossible. Its vocabulary was so constructed as to give exact and often very subtle expression to every meaning that a Party member could properly wish to express, while excluding all other meaning and also the possibility of arriving at them by indirect methods. This was done partly by the invention of new words, but chiefly by eliminating undesirable words and stripping such words as remained of unorthodox meanings, and so far as possible of all secondary meaning whatever."[10]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoughtcrime

A thoughtcrime is an Orwellian neologism used to describe an illegal thought. The term was popularized in the dystopian novel Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell, first published in 1949, wherein thoughtcrime is the criminal act of holding unspoken beliefs or doubts that oppose or question Ingsoc, the ruling party. In the book, the government attempts to control not only the speech and actions, but also the thoughts of its subjects. To entertain unacceptable thoughts is known as crimethink (or wrongthink) in Newspeak, the ideologically purified dialect of the party.[1] Crimestop is a way to avoid crimethink by immediately purging dangerous thoughts from the mind.

Based on whose definition? By what authority? How did they obtain that authority? What is the process of that chain of hierarchy? Why trust their definition of things? You obtained a set of beliefs and accepted them without question? Went on believing in it and spread it like it's gospel? I can sum it up in common sense.... People have ulterior motives.

They want to be in control of others. They are not at peace with their world, inside and out. They simply lack accepting things and are slaves to their ideas and needs. They want the world to change for them rather her than simply change themselves. They are the ones who take everything too serious. Don't laugh often either. Grumpy and just not fun. They aren't the life of the party and sure don't bring it. They suck the good vibes out instead. They see the world as they feel. Rather than lightening up, no no, they manipulate the people around them like quicksand, with words and manipulation of words and some sort of twisted and dark ulterior motives. It's disguised until you see it. They can't dazzle so they baffle with wordy explanations seemingly intelligent. I call them emotional morons.
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