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No Conscience
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I'm just happy they all got popped. Set them back on their heels. Nice to see Justice served at the top once in a while.
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Isabella
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-12-2019 07:20 PM)
Isabella  Wrote: (03-12-2019 06:18 PM)
I stand corrected..
Today's indictments are a good start and the tip of the ice-berg on exposing just one way money buys admittance to universities without having a Legend connection to a university or any personal connections.

Yup. Nobody can convince me that Bush Jr was admitted to Harvard without connections and pull. Be it monetary or otherwise. Same principal.



How affirmative action helped George W.

By Michael Kinsley
Monday, January 20, 2003

The president might ask himself, "Wait a minute. How did I get into Yale?"

"George W. Bush is all for diversity, he explained last week, but he doesn't care for the way they do it at the University of Michigan. The Administration has asked the Supreme Court to rule the Michigan system unconstitutional because of the scoring method it uses for rating applicants.

"At the undergraduate level," said Bush, "African-American students and some Hispanic students and Native American students receive 20 points out of a maximum of 150, not because of any academic achievement or life experience, but solely because they are African American, Hispanic or Native American."

If our President had the slightest sense of irony, he might have paused to ask himself, "Wait a minute. How did I get into Yale?" It wasn't because of any academic achievement: his high school record was ordinary. It wasn't because of his life experience--prosperous family, fancy prep school--which was all too familiar at Yale. It wasn't his SAT scores: 566 verbal and 640 math.

They may not have had an explicit point system at Yale in 1964, but Bush clearly got in because of affirmative action. Affirmative action for the son and grandson of alumni. Affirmative action for a member of a politically influential family. Affirmative action for a boy from a fancy prep school. These forms of affirmative action still go on.

The Wall Street Journal reported last week that Harvard accepts 40% of applicants who are children of alumni but only 11% of applicants generally. And this kind of affirmative action makes the student body less diverse, not more so. George W. Bush, in fact, may be the most spectacular affirmative-action success story of all time. Until 1994, when he was 48 years old and got elected Governor of Texas, his life was almost empty of accomplishments

Yet bloodlines and connections had put him into Andover, Yale and Harvard Business School, and even finally provided him with a fortune after years of business disappointments. Intelligence, hard work and the other qualities associated with the concept of merit had almost nothing to do with Bush's life and success up to that point.

And yet seven years later he was President of the U.S. So what is the difference between the kind of affirmative action that got Bush where he is today and the kind he wants the Supreme Court to outlaw? One difference is that the second kind is about race, and race is an especially toxic subject. Of course, George W.'s affirmative action is about race too, at least indirectly.

The class of wealthy, influential children of alumni of top universities is disproportionately white. And it will remain that way for a long time--especially if racial affirmative action is outlawed. A second difference is that the Michigan system is crudely numerical, whereas the favoritism enjoyed by George W. Bush is baked into the way we live."

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http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/01/2...action.tm/

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COSMIC DAY
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Isabella  Wrote: (03-12-2019 05:45 PM)
Charles Kushner pledged 2.5 million to Harvard, both sons got in,Jared's acceptance to the surprise of his High School teachers.

The Story Behind Jared Kushner’s Curious Acceptance Into Harvard

ProPublica editor Daniel Golden wrote a book a decade ago about how the rich buy their children access to elite colleges. One student he covered is now poised to become one of the most powerful figures in the country"

by Daniel Golden Nov. 18, 2016, 2 p.m. EST

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"My Kushner discoveries were an offshoot of my research for a chapter on Harvard donors. Somebody had slipped me a document I had long coveted: the membership list of Harvard’s Committee on University Resources. The university wooed more than 400 of its biggest givers and most promising prospects by putting them on this committee and inviting them to campus periodically to be wined, dined, and subjected to lectures by eminent professors.

My idea was to figure out how many children of these corporate titans, oil barons, money managers, lawyers, high-tech consultants and old-money heirs had gone to Harvard. A disproportionate tally might suggest that the university eased its standards for the offspring of wealthy backers.

I began working through the list, poring over “Who’s Who in America” and Harvard class reunion reports for family information. Charles and Seryl Kushner were both on the committee. I had never heard of them, but their joint presence struck me as a sign that Harvard’s fundraising machine held the couple in especially fond regard"

https://www.propublica.org/article/the-s...to-harvard

You beat me to it. Thanks for posting this.

It’s a very common practice amongst the well connected.
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03-12-2019 07:59 PM

 




Post: #49
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-12-2019 07:20 PM)
Isabella  Wrote: (03-12-2019 06:18 PM)
I stand corrected..
Today's indictments are a good start and the tip of the ice-berg on exposing just one way money buys admittance to universities without having a Legend connection to a university or any personal connections.

Yup. Nobody can convince me that Bush Jr was admitted to Harvard without connections and pull. Be it monetary or otherwise. Same principal.

I don't think the US Attorney that announced this today yet fully realizes the exploding box of crap he just kicked.
In fact he seems to differentiate one form of abuse of privilege in favor of another as if one is preferable or acceptable.
Quote:
"There can be no separate college admission system for the wealthy and there will not be a separate criminal justice system either," Lelling said. "We're not talking about donating a building so a school is more likely to take your son or daughter, we're talking about deception or fraud."

This is a tough sell job to those not part of the elite. I think a deeper dive into the corruption of the privileged than they really planned on will be called for. These schools receive a lot of government funding too and as such are answerable.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-12-2019 07:47 PM)
Isabella  Wrote: (03-12-2019 07:33 PM)
"The 700 Club" chuckle

Actress Lori Loughlin: Balancing Family, Faith, and Career


Snips:


Scott: There’s something I want to talk about because you’re in an industry that crosses the line morally, ethically, in so many ways. And, as I understand it, you’re a person of faith?

Lori: I do believe in God. I was raised Catholic.

Scott: Six episodes turned into seven years. What made the show so successful?

Lori: Well, a couple things, I think. It was a cute show, and it was funny. I think the cast genuinely, we have a real love for each other, and we do till this day. And because the morals are right, there’s a message to –in every episode, you know, how to be a good person, how to be a better person, right from wrong. It’s a good message.


Scott: Okay, how does that affect your choices in what you do?

Lori: For me personally, I was always very thoughtful about projects that I chose for myself. I would say to myself, “Can my father watch this?” If my father couldn’t watch it, I didn’t do it. And then when I had children … I always thought, I don’t want to do anything that one day might rear its ugly head and my children have to pay the price for that." chuckle

Scott: Do you have any sense it’s going to last seven years?

Lori: Oh my goodness, well, from your lips to God’s ears, as they say. But um, [Scott: Would you want that?] I really do love this show. I think that this show has –I think it’s a great family show. I think its heart is in the right place.


Scott: What’s the essence of it?

Lori: The essence of it is faith. It’s morals, it’s community.


http://www1.cbn.com/700club/actress-lori...and-career

w-o-w. Acting:Lying. They can't tell the difference anymore.

It's worse with all the religious "Family Values" politicians and there's quite a few who recently have been caught in sex scandals and resigned.
Some of them were real doozies.. chuckle

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Post: #51
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Isabella  Wrote: (03-12-2019 08:03 PM)
w-o-w. Acting:Lying. They can't tell the difference anymore.


It's worse with all the religious "Family Values" politicians

It is not the 1980s anymore.

Why don't you guys try updating your empty canned rhetoric.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-12-2019 08:06 PM)
Isabella  Wrote: (03-12-2019 08:03 PM)
w-o-w. Acting:Lying. They can't tell the difference anymore.


It's worse with all the religious "Family Values" politicians

It is not the 1980s anymore.

Why don't you guys try updating your empty canned rhetoric.

Why don’t' you try staying informed on what Family Values guys had to resign..Tim Murphy is a good place for you to start...continue to Joe Barton then throw in Wes Goodman for shits and giggles.
There's more where they came from if you're interested...Rofl

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Post: #53
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Isabella  Wrote: (03-12-2019 08:25 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-12-2019 08:06 PM)
It is not the 1980s anymore.

Why don't you guys try updating your empty canned rhetoric.

Why don’t' you try staying informed on what Family Values guys had to resign..Tim Murphy is a good place for you to start...continue to Joe Barton then throw in Wes Goodman for shits and giggles.
There's more where they came from if you're interested...Rofl

The point is that you are obsessed with muh family values when that has not mattered in decades.

If you want to attack your hate session should not not try to be accurate?
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03-12-2019 08:29 PM

 




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Oh wow, rich people are paying for their children to receive special treatment??

I'm shocked!!!!!1
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03-12-2019 08:39 PM

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Post: #55
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-12-2019 08:27 PM)
Isabella  Wrote: (03-12-2019 08:25 PM)
Why don’t' you try staying informed on what Family Values guys had to resign..Tim Murphy is a good place for you to start...continue to Joe Barton then throw in Wes Goodman for shits and giggles.
There's more where they came from if you're interested...Rofl

The point is that you are obsessed with muh family values when that has not mattered in decades.

If you want to attack your hate session should not not try to be accurate?

That's not and wasn't the point, but you knew that.
Carry on trying to avoid the reality of what a ruse this Family Values platform became for so many religious hypocrites, in and out of government.

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Post: #57
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Isabella  Wrote: (03-12-2019 08:39 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-12-2019 08:27 PM)
The point is that you are obsessed with muh family values when that has not mattered in decades.

If you want to attack your hate session should not not try to be accurate?

That's not and wasn't the point, but you knew that.
Carry on trying to avoid the reality of what a ruse this Family Values platform became for so many religious hypocrites, in and out of government.

Carry on pretending it is the 1980s because you are still buttblasted about Trumps election and you hate Christians.
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This new version of the Boston FBI would have popped Whitey Bulger in his heyday. Too bad Mueller and Kerry ran Boston Justice back then. Anything for a price.

https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/...ing-scheme
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Post: #59
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Sealed Indictments being Un-Sealed. Bottoms up!
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Pure Rock Fury  Wrote: (03-12-2019 05:47 PM)
It took all of 15 minutes for this to get turned into something about the current political administration. New record?
Any opportunity is a good one, yeah?

triggered much?

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