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Violent Populist Climate denial hatred on show in NZ
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Post: #16
RE: Violent Populist Climate denial hatred on show in NZ
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Democracy is when 51% vote to eat the other 49%
It's 2 wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner.
That's why we here in the United States of America are a representative REPUBLIC!
f*#k democracy. it's what every country turns into before it becomes something far worse.
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Post: #17
RE: Violent Populist Climate denial hatred on show in NZ







https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1...9760154625

Conservatives back then hated JFK -- see this flyer that the far right distributed in Dallas right before his assassination -- but these days some of them have rewritten that history to try to claim him as one of their own. It's an argument that doesn't fit with the history.

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JFK was a proud liberal who supported separation of church and state, civil rights for racial minorities and women, immigration, big government programs to expand the welfare state, NATO and free trade.

He dismissed protective tariffs and, oh yeah, he stood up to the Russians.

The John Birch Society accused both Ike & JFK of being communists. At the time, though, they were just another fringe group. They've now virtually taken over the Repub party. Fred Koch, father of Charles & David, biggest current donors, was a co-founder of the JBS.

Remember the John Birch Society was co-founded by David & Charles Koch's father. Remember their grandfather paid large sums to bring Hitler to power; just like David & Charles bought & paid for tRump! I worked for them & I know what they & their family did & are still doing. U+I
https://twitter.com/uiamalgamated/status...6872239104

Trump and the @GOP's claims that climate policy is an effort to bring socialism to America is straight from the John Birch Society's Agenda 21 conspiracy theory, which believes the UN uses environmentalism to pursue socialist world domination.
https://rantt.com/aided-by-trump-the-rad...cy-theory/
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Post: #18
RE: Violent Populist Climate denial hatred on show in NZ
tech_bonus  Wrote: (03-14-2019 01:43 PM)
Alright here's a question.

This sounded like a "last straw" type of incident. What was that straw? What was the most recent thing the Powers-That-Be down there tried to enact?

Nothing of the sort. Just some dude going off the rails. Happens once in awhile. Sort of like no big deal. No one was shot or stabbed. Just a punch up that was soon over.
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Post: #19
RE: Violent Populist Climate denial hatred on show in NZ
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (03-14-2019 01:33 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-14-2019 01:17 PM)
cultural marxists

mount perlin society/john birch society invention

just more totalist thought terminating cliche

Glfqnsfk

tech_bonus  Wrote: (03-14-2019 01:43 PM)
Alright here's a question.

This sounded like a "last straw" type of incident. What was that straw? What was the most recent thing the Powers-That-Be down there tried to enact?
what 'triggered' the attack you mean?


you need more info on this false paralogical anti-intellectual narrative?
Quote:Shouting down political opponents, inflexible dogma, and the making of lists of the politically impure, unfavored classes, and offending businesses, has always been integral to socialism. History is utterly clear on this point. The list is always acted on.
https://twitter.com/HowardSchultz/status...9436282880
The MONT PELERIN SOCIETY
HISTORY LESSON FOLKS

-In 1943 The Institute of Public Affairs aka @TheIPA was established by notable businessmen in response to an outstanding win by Labor in the Federal Election in same year

-Their intent was to SMASH LABOR, the UNIONS and to fight SOCIALISM.
-In the following year @TheIPA established the Liberal Party of Australia.

-You can see ‘NOTHING HAS CHANGED’.

NOTE #NeoLiberals, #Libertarians DO NOT ACT in the PUBLIC GOOD


HISTORY LESSON CONTINUES

Did U know, in 1947 another GROUP of RICH WHITE MEN travelled to #MontPelerin in Switzerland meeting to ESTABLISH another GLOBAL MOVEMENT to SMASH UNIONS

-The name for this is The MONT PELERIN SOCIETY

-The IPA FEATURE in this GROUP

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-If U check the founding members of the #MontPelerinSociety you’ll find Frederick Hayek, an Economist.
The IPA supported Hayek’s trip to Aus in 1976 where he spoke extensively about the EVILS OF SOCIALISM.
much much more:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/10919...46913.html

Quote:The information offered relieves emotional stress. Trust to the source of information offering the solution is formed. Based on this trust, the new information is accepted easily.
This method creates physiological changes in the brain. Recovery takes special treatment. The thinking patterns are altered and conventional logical arguments fail to deliver facts. On the contrary, the victims of brainwashing develop acute negative emotions to opponents, evidence or facts. Their behavior becomes aggressive and can lead to violence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_warfare
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Post: #20
RE: Violent Populist Climate denial hatred on show in NZ


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7 Years Before Russia Hacked the Election, Someone Did the Same Thing to Climate Scientists
“Why does this story sound so darned familiar?”



Quote:Seven years earlier, Trump was riffing on a very different set of hacked emails. The real estate mogul had called into Fox News after a blizzard to declare that climate change was a hoax. Trump claimed that “one of the leaders of global warming” had recently admitted in a private email that years of scientific research were nothing but “a con.”

Trump was referring to the 2009 Climategate scandal, in which emails from climate scientists were hacked and disseminated across the internet. Climate change deniers claimed the messages showed scientists engaging in misconduct and fabricating a warming pattern that didn’t really exist. Multiple investigations ultimately exonerated the researchers, but not before a media firestorm undercut public confidence in the science—just as world leaders were meeting in Copenhagen, Denmark, to attempt to rein in greenhouse gas emissions.

In hindsight, the Climategate hack, clearly timed to disrupt the Copenhagen negotiations, looks like a precursor to the hack that helped shape the outcome of the 2016 election. That’s how John Podesta, the Clinton campaign chairman whose stolen emails were posted on WikiLeaks in the final weeks of the campaign, sees it. The parallels go beyond the hacks themselves. “I think it was the intentionality of influencing the public debate,” he says.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017...mp-hacking

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Post: #21
RE: Violent Populist Climate denial hatred on show in NZ
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (03-09-2019 01:21 AM)
Getting back to the establishment of TheIPA- > it was set up by notable businessmen including Keith Murdoch in 1943.

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Mont Pelerin Society members
Quite a Who's who list of many well known influential personalities from the 20th Century from around the world



https://www.revolvy.com/folder/Mont-Pele...bers/83844



In 1944 the IPA established The Liberal Party of Australia
Their intent was to fight Labor Unions and Socialism.
Quote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Pa..._Australia

Outlining his vision for a new political movement in 1944, Menzies said:

The formation of the party was formally announced at Sydney Town Hall on 31 August 1945.[18] It took the name "Liberal" in honour of the old Commonwealth Liberal Party. The new party was dominated by the remains of the old UAP; with few exceptions, the UAP party room became the Liberal party room. The Australian Women's National League, a powerful conservative women's organisation, also merged with the new party. A conservative youth group Menzies had set up, the Young Nationalists, was also merged into the new party. It became the nucleus of the Liberal Party's youth division, the Young Liberals. By September 1945 there were more than 90,000 members, many of whom had not previously been members of any political party
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spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (03-09-2019 02:24 AM)
Quote:Boettke’s faculty combine Hayek’s Austrian economics (which views the economy as a dispersed cloud of information that agents must learn, interpret, and navigate) and Buchanan’s public choice theory (which studies the “profit motivated” self-interested actions of all institutions—including teacher’s unions, regulatory agencies, political parties, and other groups outside the traditional for-profit companies people associate with economics).

One of his faculty members, Peter Leeson, wrote “The Invisible Hook” in 2009. It’s an economic history that applied “analytical anarchism” to 18th century pirate ships. Leeson shows how racial equality and democracy came to exist, unplanned, on pirate ships before they existed on land, because economic efficiency required it.

more:
http://thefederalist.com/2016/11/07/haye...-era-bang/
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Post: #22
RE: Violent Populist Climate denial hatred on show in NZ
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (03-14-2019 03:17 PM)
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (03-14-2019 01:33 PM)
mount perlin society/john birch society invention

just more totalist thought terminating cliche

Glfqnsfk

tech_bonus  Wrote: (03-14-2019 01:43 PM)
Alright here's a question.

This sounded like a "last straw" type of incident. What was that straw? What was the most recent thing the Powers-That-Be down there tried to enact?
what 'triggered' the attack you mean?


you need more info on this false paralogical anti-intellectual narrative?
Quote:Shouting down political opponents, inflexible dogma, and the making of lists of the politically impure, unfavored classes, and offending businesses, has always been integral to socialism. History is utterly clear on this point. The list is always acted on.
https://twitter.com/HowardSchultz/status...9436282880
The MONT PELERIN SOCIETY
HISTORY LESSON FOLKS

-In 1943 The Institute of Public Affairs aka @TheIPA was established by notable businessmen in response to an outstanding win by Labor in the Federal Election in same year

-Their intent was to SMASH LABOR, the UNIONS and to fight SOCIALISM.
-In the following year @TheIPA established the Liberal Party of Australia.

-You can see ‘NOTHING HAS CHANGED’.

NOTE #NeoLiberals, #Libertarians DO NOT ACT in the PUBLIC GOOD


HISTORY LESSON CONTINUES

Did U know, in 1947 another GROUP of RICH WHITE MEN travelled to #MontPelerin in Switzerland meeting to ESTABLISH another GLOBAL MOVEMENT to SMASH UNIONS

-The name for this is The MONT PELERIN SOCIETY

-The IPA FEATURE in this GROUP

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[img=500x400]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DydpQH_UUAAa-9l.jpg

-If U check the founding members of the #MontPelerinSociety you’ll find Frederick Hayek, an Economist.
The IPA supported Hayek’s trip to Aus in 1976 where he spoke extensively about the EVILS OF SOCIALISM.
much much more:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/10919...46913.html

Quote:The information offered relieves emotional stress. Trust to the source of information offering the solution is formed. Based on this trust, the new information is accepted easily.
This method creates physiological changes in the brain. Recovery takes special treatment. The thinking patterns are altered and conventional logical arguments fail to deliver facts. On the contrary, the victims of brainwashing develop acute negative emotions to opponents, evidence or facts. Their behavior becomes aggressive and can lead to violence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_warfare

You still haven't answered the question. I live in NZ. Is it so hard to admit your hyperbole?


'Essential here is that the "Right Man" must always have his way and is afraid of losing face above all ("How dare you talk to me this way?"): anything that might be an indication of his infallibility or erroneous ways, something that he can never admit.'
http://phinnweb.blogspot.com/2004/10/rig...e.html?m=1
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Post: #23
RE: Violent Populist Climate denial hatred on show in NZ
and what type of person do think Van Vogt is describing here?

you are using this to defend authoritarian populism?

Spock
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Post: #24
RE: Violent Populist Climate denial hatred on show in NZ
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (03-14-2019 09:32 AM)
Anti-democracy populism

spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (03-14-2019 09:32 AM)
explain how the nationalist socialist populism is for strengthening democratic right
are you going to try and tell me they are for improving this or something ?

LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-14-2019 01:22 PM)
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (03-14-2019 12:49 PM)
explain how the nationalist socialist populism

In the weimar republic democarcy was not functional, an unaccountable president with over arching power that trampled over the will of the reichstag, a PR system that lead to a constant churn of minority governments and coalitions and the German people's total lack of democratic experience.

New Zealand has a functioning democracy. There is no anti-democratic populist party in New Zealand or any other western democracy, this is not 1920s Germany.

spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (03-14-2019 01:36 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-14-2019 01:22 PM)
this is not 1920s Germany.

correct.. this is far worse.

unlike that period though it will be stopped this time.

LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-14-2019 01:46 PM)
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (03-14-2019 01:36 PM)
correct.. this is far worse.

So ridiculous it shouldn't merit a response but go on, explain how New Zealand in 2019 is worse than Weimar republic Germany in 1929.

spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (03-14-2019 02:10 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-14-2019 01:46 PM)
explain how New Zealand in 2019 is worse than Weimar republic Germany in 1929.
Don't look now , ....... off-topic word salad .........

An incoherent and irrelevant answer to a simple question. Again, explain how New Zealand in 2019 is worse than Wiemar Republic Germany in the 1920s.
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Post: #25
RE: Violent Populist Climate denial hatred on show in NZ
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (03-14-2019 03:52 PM)
and what type of person do think Van Vogt is describing here?

you are using this to defend authoritarian populism?

Spock

I'm describing you. You attack, name call, copy pasta a whole lot of stuff irrelevant to the question at hand. You know you were wrong but cannot admit it.
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Post: #26
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What is the cause for your aggression at being asked to explain your statement? Deleting post and just being nasty.
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Post: #27
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-14-2019 03:57 PM)
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (03-14-2019 03:52 PM)
and what type of person do think Van Vogt is describing here?

you are using this to defend authoritarian populism?

Spock

I'm describing you. You attack, name call, copy pasta a whole lot of stuff irrelevant to the question at hand. You know you were wrong but cannot admit it.

you questioned that anti-climate change populism is somehow not co-dependent on this waning nationalist socialism viral bullshit.

I tried to answer it ..you kept attacking..

now you want to keep the narrative focused on me..

Disturbed  Wrote: (02-10-2019 09:55 PM)
New rules.

§1 - We don't discuss posters but we discuss the topic.

§2 - Accusations of framing, shilling, etc. are not allowed.

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RE: Violent Populist Climate denial hatred on show in NZ
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (03-14-2019 04:13 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-14-2019 03:57 PM)
I'm describing you. You attack, name call, copy pasta a whole lot of stuff irrelevant to the question at hand. You know you were wrong but cannot admit it.

I tried to answer it ..you kept attacking..

now you want to keep the narrative focused on me..

Disturbed  Wrote: (02-10-2019 09:55 PM)
New rules.

§1 - We don't discuss posters but we discuss the topic.

§2 - Accusations of framing, shilling, etc. are not allowed.

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So you make a plea to the new rules "We don't discuss posters but we discuss the topic" and immediately reply with a picture that accuses the other poster of being "a narcissist". Nothing about that post strikes you as being ironic or hypocritical?
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This thread is about an attack on a NZ government minister. There has been an assertion that this was because of a rampant populist movement that was "anti-democratic" in its nature.

There has been a further assertion that this is so bad in New Zealand that New Zealand is now "worse than" Weimar Republic Germany in the 1920s.

https://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-114658...pid2030522

Posters want proof that supports this outlandish assertion.

Explain how New Zealand in 2019 is worse than Wiemar republic Germany in the 1920s.
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