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Should the grandchild of a murderer pay reparations to the victims grandchild?
Luvapottamus
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RE: Should the grandchild of a murderer pay reparations to the victims grandchild?
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Sounds like a couched question about reparations governments may owe.

And you're personalizing it.

There is no such thing as sovereign debt. Reinstate Greenbacks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb5OQUElilo
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Post: #17
RE: Should the grandchild of a murderer pay reparations to the victims grandchild?
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (03-17-2019 08:59 PM)
Sounds like a couched question about reparations governments may owe.

And you're personalizing it.

Yes, to show that no blanket reparations should ever occur. Paperwork exists back to both white and black slave owners, slave traders, ship owners and African continent slave sellers. Go after reparations from only benefited ancestors of those people only. Subtract government handouts totals to those asking for reparations in the calculation though. Also subtract any ancestral crime harm from anyone asking for reparations
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RE: Should the grandchild of a murderer pay reparations to the victims grandchild?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-17-2019 09:16 PM)
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (03-17-2019 08:59 PM)
Sounds like a couched question about reparations governments may owe.

And you're personalizing it.

Yes, to show that no blanket reparations should ever occur. Paperwork exists back to both white and black slave owners, slave traders, ship owners and African continent slave sellers. Go after reparations from only benefited ancestors of those people only. Subtract government handouts totals to those asking for reparations in the calculation though. Also subtract any ancestral crime harm from anyone asking for reparations

What people who propose reparations are wanting to accomplish is mainly correcting lingering disadvantages from past wrongs.

That can be accomplished several ways:

Direct compensation in cash.
Targeted investment in disadvantaged communities,

I'm sure there are others.

But the main thing is you don't want to keep people trapped in poverty and cycling through the prisons system. (I'm thinking blacks and native Americans in particular).

Many problems with this worthy goal, because the system is engineered to impoverish the poor and put them in the mill.

If you give people a check, they will probably blow it unwisely, and be poor pretty soon.

Targeted investment in their communities can become gentrification, end up kicking them off that land AGAIN.

No easy fix.

But if there's a chain of title, they can actually sue to get their land.

In most states.

There is no such thing as sovereign debt. Reinstate Greenbacks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb5OQUElilo
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RE: Should the grandchild of a murderer pay reparations to the victims grandchild?
No...


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Post: #20
RE: Should the grandchild of a murderer pay reparations to the victims grandchild?
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (03-17-2019 09:32 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-17-2019 09:16 PM)
Yes, to show that no blanket reparations should ever occur. Paperwork exists back to both white and black slave owners, slave traders, ship owners and African continent slave sellers. Go after reparations from only benefited ancestors of those people only. Subtract government handouts totals to those asking for reparations in the calculation though. Also subtract any ancestral crime harm from anyone asking for reparations

What people who propose reparations are wanting to accomplish is mainly correcting lingering disadvantages from past wrongs.

That can be accomplished several ways:

Direct compensation in cash.
Targeted investment in disadvantaged communities,

I'm sure there are others.

But the main thing is you don't want to keep people trapped in poverty and cycling through the prisons system. (I'm thinking blacks and native Americans in particular).

Many problems with this worthy goal, because the system is engineered to impoverish the poor and put them in the mill.

If you give people a check, they will probably blow it unwisely, and be poor pretty soon.

Targeted investment in their communities can become gentrification, end up kicking them off that land AGAIN.

No easy fix.

But if there's a chain of title, they can actually sue to get their land.

In most states.

Wonder if a calculation has been made totaling the government's payments to those desiring reparations. Billions have been given in welfare, housing, health care, education, etc. Perhaps any reparations $ totals have already been paid back if all is considered.
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Post: #21
RE: Should the grandchild of a murderer pay reparations to the victims grandchild?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-17-2019 09:40 PM)
No...


TNB

TNB?
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Post: #22
RE: Should the grandchild of a murderer pay reparations to the victims grandchild?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-17-2019 09:48 PM)
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (03-17-2019 09:32 PM)
What people who propose reparations are wanting to accomplish is mainly correcting lingering disadvantages from past wrongs.

That can be accomplished several ways:

Direct compensation in cash.
Targeted investment in disadvantaged communities,

I'm sure there are others.

But the main thing is you don't want to keep people trapped in poverty and cycling through the prisons system. (I'm thinking blacks and native Americans in particular).

Many problems with this worthy goal, because the system is engineered to impoverish the poor and put them in the mill.

If you give people a check, they will probably blow it unwisely, and be poor pretty soon.

Targeted investment in their communities can become gentrification, end up kicking them off that land AGAIN.

No easy fix.

But if there's a chain of title, they can actually sue to get their land.

In most states.

Wonder if a calculation has been made totaling the government's payments to those desiring reparations. Billions have been given in welfare, housing, health care, education, etc. Perhaps any reparations $ totals have already been paid back if all is considered.

There's the problem.

Great Society, War on Poverty...that stuff failed.

Partly because they warehoused people on inadequate public assistance within cannibalistic poverty islands, far away from employment opportunities.

And partly because once some of it did work, the CIA put crack in to push everybody back down again.

The democrat-republican two-step screwjob.

There is no such thing as sovereign debt. Reinstate Greenbacks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb5OQUElilo
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Post: #23
RE: Should the grandchild of a murderer pay reparations to the victims grandchild?
Ezekial 18.20 says

The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
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Post: #24
RE: Should the grandchild of a murderer pay reparations to the victims grandchild?
The Lord...visits the iniquity of the fathers on the children and the children’s children, to the third and the fourth generation. (Exodus 34:6-7 = Deuteronomy 5:8-10)

“Because of their iniquity, and also because of the iniquities of their fathers they shall rot away like them.” (Leviticus 26:39)
On the other hand it seems that he doesn’t:

Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers.” (Deuteronomy 24:16)

[Amaziah] did not put to death the children of the murderers, according to what is written in the Book of the Law of Moses, where the Lord commanded, “Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. But each one shall die for his own sin.” (2 Kings 14:6)

The son shall not suffer for the iniquity of the father, nor the father suffer for the iniquity of the son. (Ezekiel 18:20, cf. Jeremiah 31:30)
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Post: #25
RE: Should the grandchild of a murderer pay reparations to the victims grandchild?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-17-2019 07:23 PM)
Just wondering.

Did the grandparents who were murdered build most of the institutions across this country with little to no pay, having to work because they were "bought" through slavery, and endured abuses while captive (mental, physical, sexual and emotional)?

Then I say yes, and I am saying this as a descendent of Polish slaves.
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Post: #26
RE: Should the grandchild of a murderer pay reparations to the victims grandchild?
Black history month was last month.

Are we commenting on old thoughts from a few weeks ago?
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Post: #27
RE: Should the grandchild of a murderer pay reparations to the victims grandchild?
Then I should SUE England in the International COURT!
My Ancestor was FORCED to Run for his life SCREAMING in Terror!
ENGLAND Owes Me Reparation in the Millions Of Pounds & Dollars!
You ENGLISH Owe ME MONEY for My Ancestors PAIN and Suffering!

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Post: #28
RE: Should the grandchild of a murderer pay reparations to the victims grandchild?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-17-2019 09:48 PM)
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (03-17-2019 09:32 PM)
What people who propose reparations are wanting to accomplish is mainly correcting lingering disadvantages from past wrongs.

That can be accomplished several ways:

Direct compensation in cash.
Targeted investment in disadvantaged communities,

I'm sure there are others.

But the main thing is you don't want to keep people trapped in poverty and cycling through the prisons system. (I'm thinking blacks and native Americans in particular).

Many problems with this worthy goal, because the system is engineered to impoverish the poor and put them in the mill.

If you give people a check, they will probably blow it unwisely, and be poor pretty soon.

Targeted investment in their communities can become gentrification, end up kicking them off that land AGAIN.

No easy fix.

But if there's a chain of title, they can actually sue to get their land.

In most states.

Wonder if a calculation has been made totaling the government's payments to those desiring reparations. Billions have been given in welfare, housing, health care, education, etc. Perhaps any reparations $ totals have already been paid back if all is considered.
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Post: #29
RE: Should the grandchild of a murderer pay reparations to the victims grandchild?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-17-2019 09:48 PM)
Wonder if a calculation has been made totaling the government's payments to those desiring reparations. Billions have been given in welfare, housing, health care, education, etc. Perhaps any reparations $ totals have already been paid back if all is considered.

The way it's been delivered made it useless.

Hypothetical:

You have a $75,000 mortgage on your home.

A relative passed away and left you $100,000.

But the will puts it into TRUST, and doles it out at $10,000 year.

If you had the whole thing at once you could pay off your mortgage ALL AT ONCE, avoid $6000/year in house payments for the remaining 20 years on the mortgage, and you have $25k left to start a business. You avoided paying $6grand @ 20 years = $120k with $75k and you have $25k left over.

You basically just EARNED $50K in one day. Because you had $100k ALL AT ONCE.

What can you do with ten grand?

That's what most welfare state programs are like.
At best you get free substandard housing and some free food.

Nothing for transportation.
Nothing to start a business with.
Nothing to purchase a house with....

There are other programs that mix and match options, but that's the BEST you get^^^ and it's wasted money.

There is no such thing as sovereign debt. Reinstate Greenbacks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb5OQUElilo
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