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Trump sucks: Trump’s New Proposal Cheats 8 Million Working People of Overtime Pay
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In addition to trying to force over 130 million Americans to pay higher prices for their pre-existing health care conditions, now Trump is reversing overtime protections for low income and middle income Americans to help corporations save billions. Scream1

Trump’s New Proposal Cheats 8 Million Working People of Overtime Pay

"Eight Million! That’s how many U.S. middle-class workers will be left without strong overtime pay protections under the Trump administration’s weak overtime rule proposed on March 22.

In human terms, that means 8 million working people across the 50 states can be made to work up to 50, 60 or even 70 hours a week, missing time with their families, without receiving any extra pay, even if they make as little as $35,000 a year.

The problem is the salary threshold below which workers are guaranteed time-and-a-half overtime pay when they work more than 40 hours in a week has been frozen for decades, with no adjustment for the rising cost of living. As a result, the share of salaried workers guaranteed overtime pay has plummeted from six in 10 in 1975 to less than one in 10 today.

The Trump administration claimed that the new overtime salary threshold is a win for workers, and many news outlets echoed the administration’s spin, declaring in headlines across the country that the Trump rule is an “expansion,” or at least a “compromise” on overtime pay. In reality, it is a significant rollback that will cheat millions of Americans of fair pay for hard work.

That’s because the Trump overtime regulation replaces a 2016 Obama-era Labor Department rule that would have restored overtime protections for more than 12 million salaried workers earning up to $55,055 by 2023. The Trump rule slashes that salary level to $35,308 — and treats workers earning more than that as if they were highly paid executive who don’t need overtime pay. All told, Trump’s decision to slash the salary threshold means workers will miss out on $1.2 billion in wages each year they would have received under the 2016 rule.

The overtime salary threshold is supposed to protect workers with little bargaining power — think of modestly paid front-line supervisors at fast food restaurants or discount stores — from being forced to work long hours for no pay.

Trump’s decision to slash the salary threshold means workers will miss out on $1.2 billion in wages each year.
Typical of them is Charney, who works as a salaried manager at a dollar store in Michigan. Most weeks she clocks 65 hours, missing dinner with her family and time with her kids, with no overtime pay for her long hours and dedication.

“I did the math, and I make 50 cents more than my assistant, who is eligible for overtime and gets holiday pay,” she told Truthout. “I work on average 30 hours a week more than my assistants. I feel completely taken advantage of.”

The Obama-era rule was a modest first step toward correcting a system that was increasingly leaving workers behind. It would have restored overtime coverage to about one in three salaried workers.

But despite an extensive rule-making process that lasted two years and included a quarter-million public comments driven by worker advocates, the Trump Labor Department abandoned it. U.S. workers have lost more than $1.6 billion in unpaid overtime as a result.

Unsurprisingly, the weak Trump overtime proposal is deeply unpopular with voters. New polling conducted by Hart Research in competitive congressional districts shows that voters in swing districts overwhelmingly support the stronger Obama-era overtime expansion (by a 76 to 16 margin) over the weak Trump substitute. Independents back the Obama proposal over the Trump substitute by a whopping 71 to 15 margin. Republicans prefer it 65-to-27, and Democrats 89-to-7.

Fortunately, states can and are stepping in to protect workers from the Trump overtime rollback. In many states, governors can raise the overtime salary threshold through action by their state labor departments without the need for legislation. Moreover, in every state, the legislature can act to protect overtime pay."

https://truthout.org/articles/trumps-new...rtime-pay/

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RE: Trump sucks: Trump’s New Proposal Cheats 8 Million Working People of Overtime Pay
Trump Administration Move Imperils Pre-Existing Condition Protections

"As many as 130 million adults under age 65 in the U.S. have pre-existing conditions that could result in their not being able to get insurance coverage in the private market, according to the Department of Health and Human Services. The Kaiser Family Foundation puts the number at about a quarter of the country's under-65 population. A Kaiser tracking poll in June 2017 showed 70 percent of adults want Congress to keep pre-existing condition protections.

Before the Affordable Care Act became law, insurance companies routinely declined health insurance coverage to people who had ongoing medical conditions or recent illnesses. Even when insurers offered policies to those with health problems, they often excluded those illnesses. And insurance companies could cancel coverage for people who became ill once the policy year ended.

The ACA made all those practices illegal. By withdrawing from defending the law in court, the Trump administration is saying it no longer supports those consumer protections, which are popular with voters. The move could upend insurance markets for next year and change the dynamic of this fall's elections.

"This suit comes as insurers are proposing individual market premiums for 2019. The lawsuit injects more uncertainty into what is already an uncertain environment for insurers. Insurers hate uncertainty, and they respond to it by hedging their bets and increasing premiums," says Larry Levitt, senior vice president at the Kaiser Family Foundation.

Nicholas Bagley, a professor at the University of Michigan Law School who had been a Justice Department lawyer, says DOJ's move is troubling.

"The Justice Department has a long-standing, durable, bipartisan commitment to defend acts of Congress. It's a cornerstone of what they do," he says. "For the Trump administration to crumple that up and throw it out the window is galling."

Just hours before the Justice Department officially withdrew from the case, three of the staff attorneys who had been working on it withdrew. "These are civil servants. They're not political. They are good soldiers. Their job is to defend federal programs," Bagley says, noting that he has not talked with any of them about the case. "They believed they could not in good conscience, consistent with their professional obligations, sign the brief. These are people who defend programs they disagree with all the time."


The Justice Department has opted not to defend existing law in the courts in other matters. For instance, in 2012 the Obama Justice Department said it would not defend the Defense of Marriage Act, which legally defined marriage as a union between a man and a woman for federal purposes."

https://www.npr.org/2018/06/08/618263772...rotections

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RE: Trump sucks: Trump’s New Proposal Cheats 8 Million Working People of Overtime Pay
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-13-2019 10:44 PM)


I don't wear lipstick though, so that video is silly. Jhikpghf

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RE: Trump sucks: Trump’s New Proposal Cheats 8 Million Working People of Overtime Pay
Manosteel  Wrote: (04-13-2019 11:06 PM)
there is no threshhold you f*cking idiot

if you accept "salary" as the terms of your employment and payment, then you do not get over time...period

it does not matter if you make 5,000 a week or 500

You agree to accept salary, you get all that goes along with it

Only stupid people accept low end salaries

if it's less than 40k a year and you agree to salary

you are a moron and are going to get used and abused....perhaps you asked for it

dumbasses

Stop gaslighting.

The point is Trump is reversing an Obama rule that required this overtime pay and now Trump is trying to take that pay away from 8 million low income Americans to help the large profitable corporations that will save over 1 billion per year with this ruling.

It f*cks over the little low wage workers, it is only helping large wealthy corporations, that is all that Trump and the republicans ever do.

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RE: Trump sucks: Trump’s New Proposal Cheats 8 Million Working People of Overtime Pay
pResident tRump is trying to take pay away from
8 million low income Americans to help the large corporations
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RE: Trump sucks: Trump’s New Proposal Cheats 8 Million Working People of Overtime Pay
Yes Dude, More MONEY TOTALLY Sucks For All Those PEOPLE!
I am Sure they will Revolt against all the WINNING!

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RE: Trump sucks: Trump’s New Proposal Cheats 8 Million Working People of Overtime Pay
Яudis  Wrote: (04-13-2019 11:43 PM)
Yes Dude, More MONEY TOTALLY Sucks For All Those PEOPLE!
I am Sure they will Revolt against all the WINNING!

Again you miss the obvious,... these 8 million people are getting reamed by Trump and are getting far less income for the extra hours they work. It is a huge pay cut for the low wage workers and a huge profit increase to the corporation owners.

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You fellas aren’t being very nice to he-man tsk tsk tsk
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RE: Trump sucks: Trump’s New Proposal Cheats 8 Million Working People of Overtime Pay
He Man  Wrote: (04-13-2019 11:49 PM)
Яudis  Wrote: (04-13-2019 11:43 PM)
Yes Dude, More MONEY TOTALLY Sucks For All Those PEOPLE!
I am Sure they will Revolt against all the WINNING!

Again you miss the obvious,... these 8 million people are getting reamed by Trump and are getting far less income for the extra hours they work. It is a huge pay cut for the low wage workers and a huge profit increase to the corporation owners.
Overtime pay has always been that way!
The very minute you work 45 Hours Your CHECK is LESS!
Because you are in a Higher TAX Bracket That TRUMP did not create!

In Order to Bank on overtime you have to hit the 60 HOUR MARK!

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.soul.  Wrote: (04-13-2019 11:54 PM)
You fellas aren’t being very nice to he-man tsk tsk tsk

Of course He-man is baiting too with the "Trump sucks" in the threadtitle.

Such a move makes the discussion loaded from the start.

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Disturbed  Wrote: (04-14-2019 12:01 AM)
.soul.  Wrote: (04-13-2019 11:54 PM)
You fellas aren’t being very nice to he-man tsk tsk tsk

Of course He-man is baiting too with the "Trump sucks" in the threadtitle.

Such a move makes the discussion loaded from the start.

glad you acknowledge this. ty. Heartflowers
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Disturbed  Wrote: (04-14-2019 12:01 AM)
.soul.  Wrote: (04-13-2019 11:54 PM)
You fellas aren’t being very nice to he-man tsk tsk tsk

Of course He-man is baiting too with the "Trump sucks" in the threadtitle.

Such a move makes the discussion loaded from the start.

Cmicsfee Cmicsfee Cmicsfee Cmicsfee
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Disturbed  Wrote: (04-14-2019 12:01 AM)
.soul.  Wrote: (04-13-2019 11:54 PM)
You fellas aren’t being very nice to he-man tsk tsk tsk

Of course He-man is baiting too with the "Trump sucks" in the threadtitle.

Such a move makes the discussion loaded from the start.

BAN HIM ALREADY!!

He makes LOP look very bad with the constant baiting and half-truths.
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RE: Trump sucks: Trump’s New Proposal Cheats 8 Million Working People of Overtime Pay
He Man  Wrote: (04-13-2019 11:15 PM)
Manosteel  Wrote: (04-13-2019 11:06 PM)
there is no threshhold you f*cking idiot

if you accept "salary" as the terms of your employment and payment, then you do not get over time...period

it does not matter if you make 5,000 a week or 500

You agree to accept salary, you get all that goes along with it

Only stupid people accept low end salaries

if it's less than 40k a year and you agree to salary

you are a moron and are going to get used and abused....perhaps you asked for it

dumbasses

Stop gaslighting.

The point is Trump is reversing an Obama rule that required this overtime pay and now Trump is trying to take that pay away from 8 million low income Americans to help the large profitable corporations that will save over 1 billion per year with this ruling.

It f*cks over the little low wage workers, it is only helping large wealthy corporations, that is all that Trump and the republicans ever do.

actually, manosteel was not gaslighting you. you need to look up the definition of that term.

also, he made a valid point: salairied employees do not get overtime. period. you negotiate your pay when you are hired. naturally, an employer will try to get the best person for the least pay. this is how most businesses run.
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RE: Trump sucks: Trump’s New Proposal Cheats 8 Million Working People of Overtime Pay
He Man  Wrote: (04-13-2019 11:49 PM)
Яudis  Wrote: (04-13-2019 11:43 PM)
Yes Dude, More MONEY TOTALLY Sucks For All Those PEOPLE!
I am Sure they will Revolt against all the WINNING!

Again you miss the obvious,... these 8 million people are getting reamed by Trump and are getting far less income for the extra hours they work. It is a huge pay cut for the low wage workers and a huge profit increase to the corporation owners.

most low wage workers are hourly. your point is inaccurate.
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