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Germany makes more excuses about not ponying up to 2% of GDP for NATO
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Is Germany the world's worst ally or what? After decades of U.S. defense expenditures, targeted explicitly at protecting that country with military bases and the highest quality protection money can buy, the country's defense minister, Ursula von der Leyen, told the Pentagon that Germany still can't quite meet its NATO commitments -- which stand at a whopping 2% of GDP. It'll get to 1.5 percent by 2024, the defense minister says, which is supposed to impress us.

According to the Washington Examiner:

“We are committed to the 2 percent goal. We will reach 1.5 percent of defense spending as a portion of GDP in 2024, and afterwards we will be moving towards the 2 percent,” von der Leyen said at the Pentagon as she prepared to meet with acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan.

Germany, which has the strongest economy in Europe, has seen its GDP rise steadily over the past five years; it is now almost $4 trillion as measured in U.S. dollars. Under the 2 percent formula, Germany would need to spend $80 billion on defense, more than any other NATO country excluding the United States. It now spends 1.2 percent of GDP on its military, about $50 billion, behind the United Kingdom ($61 billion) and France ($51 billion), according to NATO figures.

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RE: Germany makes more excuses about not ponying up to 2% of GDP for NATO
I guess Germany should pick a country for NATO to rape and pillage like we did Libya

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RE: Germany makes more excuses about not ponying up to 2% of GDP for NATO
GrimShaw  Wrote: (04-15-2019 08:15 AM)
I guess Germany should pick a country for NATO to rape and pillage like we did Libya

It has 27 to play with as it is, it does not need any more, and does not really need NATO... soon it will have it's permanent membership of the UN in replacing France and probably the UK too..
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04-15-2019 09:02 AM

 



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RE: Germany makes more excuses about not ponying up to 2% of GDP for NATO
It's a racket, a mob like protection scheme ... pay and buy expensive sh*t from us, or we will regime change you ass.

It works.

the USA has military collaboration with 75% of those countries deemed non-free/dictatorial/undemocratic by the Western Think Tank Freedom House.

Military collaboration= the USA sells weapons or has military bases, or occupation forces, like in Europe.

Protection money protect against US invasions or meddling in the form of regime change, but not always, I think Greece was a NATO member when the US removed the democratically elected government and installed a Right Wing Military Junta

Nowadays the poor Greece fullfils it's 2% obligation just to be on the safe side...

those who pay the 2% are mostly the Euro Shithole countries, recipients of the EU help money ... so the EU tax money goes to America via Euro shitholes, LOL

... did the USA had something to do with the recent Turkey military coup attempt? probably.

You gotta pay like SAudi-Arabia to be totally safe.
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RE: Germany makes more excuses about not ponying up to 2% of GDP for NATO
NATO will be absorbed into (replaced by) the European Army (really Papal Army) ....... Google "European Army"

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RE: Germany makes more excuses about not ponying up to 2% of GDP for NATO
Germany is LITERALLY closer allies with Russia now so why would they possibly want to pay NATO?

Don't expect any future payments to be forthcoming either.
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04-15-2019 09:12 AM

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RE: Germany makes more excuses about not ponying up to 2% of GDP for NATO
f*#k NATO

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04-15-2019 09:19 AM

 



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RE: Germany makes more excuses about not ponying up to 2% of GDP for NATO
Lol

Why thefuck would Germany pay for its occupation?


You'd have to be a complete retard to think that Germany is being "protected"..

Protected from what?

It need protected from its American lapdog subjugation..
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RE: Germany makes more excuses about not ponying up to 2% of GDP for NATO
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-15-2019 09:19 AM)
Lol

Why thefuck would Germany pay for its occupation?


You'd have to be a complete retard to think that Germany is being "protected"..

Protected from what?

It need protected from its American lapdog subjugation..

Germany only has 80 million people in it, 25 million or so of those people have no German blood. Everyday it replaces ethnic Germans with muslim migrates or the likes basically the furthest you can get from ethnic German.
Within one generation there will be no loyalty left. These countries are not as stable as people would think either.
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RE: Germany makes more excuses about not ponying up to 2% of GDP for NATO
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-15-2019 09:19 AM)
Lol

Why thefuck would Germany pay for its occupation?


You'd have to be a complete retard to think that Germany is being "protected"..

Protected from what?

It need protected from its American lapdog subjugation..

Now they need protection from EU subjugation.
As the biggest economy, they will get screwed by the EU the most anyway.
And NATO is not about to kick them out.
And NATO is subjugated by the EU.
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RE: Germany makes more excuses about not ponying up to 2% of GDP for NATO
To put this in perspective. Germany has a about the same amount of people in it with no German blood as the population of Texas.
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RE: Germany makes more excuses about not ponying up to 2% of GDP for NATO
General Anonymous  Wrote: (04-15-2019 09:02 AM)
so the EU tax money goes to straight to Belgium via the Deep State MIC

FIFY

If you think America has any control over this--think again.
It's the bankers--and much like the "City of London"--they are their own World Power.
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RE: Germany makes more excuses about not ponying up to 2% of GDP for NATO
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-15-2019 09:31 AM)
General Anonymous  Wrote: (04-15-2019 09:02 AM)
so the EU tax money goes to straight to Belgium via the Deep State MIC

FIFY

If you think America has any control over this--think again.
It's the bankers--and much like the "City of London"--they are their own World Power.

the US has surely some control over it, military equipment is extremely important export article for the US economy... not saying there's nothing in what you wrote.
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RE: Germany makes more excuses about not ponying up to 2% of GDP for NATO
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-15-2019 09:10 AM)
Germany is LITERALLY closer allies with Russia now so why would they possibly want to pay NATO?

Don't expect any future payments to be forthcoming either.

they are not allies, but the thing is, GErmany has been the industrial powerhouse of Europe, and to keep it that way, Germany would like to have the NordStream2 gas pipe as source of cheap energy, no transit fees for instance.

Now the Trump regime have been trying to bully and extort the Germany, so it would buy the more expensive LNG from the USA ... and there are warnings, that if Germany takes the pipe, surely Putin would afterwards attack Germany and blow up the pipes so that Russia wouldn't get the money ...

if that argument doesn't convince, the USA also says that it will sanction GErmany's ass, if it buys the cheap gas ...


But does that fit the Trump is Putin's agent -conspiracy theory? it would seem to require very convoluted theories ...

like, Trump wants to weaken Germany's economy so it has less resources to fight against Russia ... and besides, Putin doesn't need to hesitate when bombing Germany because there is no Russian-German energy infrastructure.
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RE: Germany makes more excuses about not ponying up to 2% of GDP for NATO
We help you out in the war on terror.
For like 18 years already.

We cannot help it that you don't want to finish these wars in a decisive win.
You wanna drag them on till eternity, and throw your money at your own defense industry.

When we can see the benefit for ourselves, we might pay more for it.
But we don't exist to give welfare to your defense industry.
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