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Existence Loading
1110.00
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01-02-2018 08:34 PM

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Post: #1
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Medium ALICE Combat Field Pack Introduction and Playlist



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5o5gcAz...mD&index=1
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL...MAcHJ0sNmD

"The Precipitant has a smaller place in reality, thus it is mortal."
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8uMCQrAxylM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0619bdpOolA
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1110.00
Manifest Alchemy
User ID: 1337
01-04-2018 08:17 AM

Posts: 70



Post: #2
RE: Existence Loading
Full Warm-Season Existence Load Medium ALICE Pack: Wilderness



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQTEDPI93Zg

Philosophy

The use of the LC-2 pack frame immediately gives the Medium ALICE Combat Field Pack a "field" or "wilderness" feel carrying it around, though this configuration carries very nicely for a framed ruck. In comparison, my 35 lbs or less DEI 1609 Pack Frame based Medium ALICE Packs feel much more "urban" and "athletic," only the frame-less Medium ALICE bettering those systems in regards athletic feel. The LC-2 Pack Frame does show itself to be, in my opinion, the best overall military pack frame for the ALICE system, though my opinion is relatively unqualified for some uses of the ALICE system, for example in regards airborne operations. The LC-2 frame allows for gear carriage within the confines of the frame itself, adding to the range of gear that is immediately available for use without having to open up the main compartment of the pack, including such items as wet weather poncho (a Medium ALICE preference for me), M-18 Smoke Grenade, the angle-head flashlight, SAM Splint, leather gloves, and 3L CamelBak (a Large ALICE experiment for me, when the butt pack is installed onto the Large ALICE).



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBcsLJoNb9o

This particular load plan is a bit beyond a soldier-basic load-weight-range for a ruck (in some respects at least), thus it is a bit heavy at 45 lbs (38.83 lbs measured, plus 6 pounds of water added before the video; best not to dry your plastic canteens on the radiator, lest they develop a leak). Another option would be to forgo the sleeping bag in favor of the warm-weather-traditional inflatable ground pad. There are also items on this ruck-setup that transfer over to ALICE system load-bearing equipment, that includes an M-17 Protective Mask Carrier, when the pack is carried in full military mode, and then there is other equipment which might be mostly dropped from the load-plan for soldier-basic carry, many of the items being either squad or platoon carry-items. I can envision the weight of this setup dropping to significantly less than its present 45 lbs, with equivalent loss of bulk, but then at least three rifle magazines and at least one smoke grenade would be added if possible.

Optional items will be marked with a "savings" designation, with a weight for the item listed if possible.

Mutable Load List: 44.8 LBS

Main Compartment
1 each, Size 2 ALICE Pack Waterproof Liner
1 each, M-1A1 Waterproof DriBag (radio pouch)
1 each, Classification Folder (radio pouch, in DriBag)
1 each, M-3 Medic Bag (top of main compartment)
1 each, size-medium DriSak (bottom of main compartment, inside liner, lumbar)

.. building ..

"The Precipitant has a smaller place in reality, thus it is mortal."
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8uMCQrAxylM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0619bdpOolA
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1110.00
Manifest Alchemy
User ID: 1337
01-11-2018 08:23 AM

Posts: 70



Post: #3
RE: Existence Loading
Early 21st Century Large Alice Pack: US Part Completely Period-Correct



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0TaP_d8j_g

This is a "like-ably" fashion-packed Large ALICE Combat Field Pack of 2005-vintage (an initial mock-up) with basic gear packed, out on gear-shakedown stroll, and with all 2005/2006 US components (the dated ones); the rest are also correct for the period. The CamelBak is an older 100 oz model with the older tube-connection technology (now replaced with a newer reservoir from a USMC CamelBak I will try out on the Large ALICE later, with no leaky tube); it is interesting how it seems to have been designed to fit the ALICE System, and the Rothco Butt Pack (brand new) also fits the system where a real US Butt Pack would have sometimes resided back in the day (at least by likely design). Notice how the canteens tuck into place "aerodynamically," without being a detriment to forward/backward load-balancing.

This load would be a 41 lb setup, if the canteens were filled with 6 lbs (3 qts) of water, so this is just 35 lbs, and the CamelBak holds about 2.5 L and isn't yet leaking in the video. Inside the ruck is a camp-clothing change, poncho liner, and wet weather poncho; plus other gear, including central-outer-pouched e-tool w/vinyl carrier and 2 MRE's in the other outer pouches. This setup carries about as Cadillac smooth as any ruck I've ever rucked. The CamelBak does a nice job of support-following the contour of the spin, making it difficult to discern any specific pressure from the waist belt, at this load-weight anyway. So far there is none of the weighing back on the torso while carry this ruck, even up a long flight of icy stairs.

Filling the CamelBak with water while it is installed on the pack frame is about as easy as filling when just wearing it and then ponying up to the water buffalo with it held under the spout. The pack tends to lay on its back so that the fill-port on the CamelBak levels quite nicely, and the handle helps to expand the reservoir enough to fill it with about 2.5 L of water. The Large ALICE Pack can be removed from the frame easily enough to allow the CamelBak to be fairly quickly removed for refill at a water-source, if you can't use a canteen to fill the reservoir.

"The Precipitant has a smaller place in reality, thus it is mortal."
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8uMCQrAxylM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0619bdpOolA
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1110.00
Manifest Alchemy
User ID: 1337
01-12-2018 11:17 AM

Posts: 70



Post: #4
RE: Existence Loading
OD Green Large ALICE Pack w/Woodland Camouflage US Butt Pack and CamelBak



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RU3HFIeFvg

Though it might be argued that Large ALICE is Pepsi to Medium ALICE Coca-Cola, Large ALICE constitutes its own study in research-testing-insightful product development.

"The Precipitant has a smaller place in reality, thus it is mortal."
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8uMCQrAxylM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0619bdpOolA
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Manifest Alchemy
User ID: 1337
01-13-2018 01:27 PM

Posts: 70



Post: #5
RE: Existence Loading
Wiggy's Radial Compression Stuff Sack on the Medium ALICE Pack



https://youtu.be/ivV1qRVUllc

This is one way to include a Wiggy's Desert Sleeping Bag with a Medium ALICE Combat Field Pack. It is best to attach the center attachment strap of the stuff sack to the LC-2 Pack Frame first, to initially secure the added load to the frame, in contact with the bottom of the rucksack, and to balance the load left or right as needed by placing the attachment strap to the left or right of the vertical metal band on the frame. The other two attachment straps are then run up through the pack frame and then through the webbing hangers on the bottom of the ruck, just taut enough to further secure the load without placing undue stress on the ruck's webbing hangers.

"The Precipitant has a smaller place in reality, thus it is mortal."
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8uMCQrAxylM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0619bdpOolA
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Manifest Alchemy
User ID: 1337
01-14-2018 07:51 AM

Posts: 70



Post: #6
RE: Existence Loading
Camelbak Draining Procedure Rehearsal



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGQyWueP804

Drained about 5.7 lbs of water that the CamelBak would accept when filled, about 85 oz out of a possible 100; I used 1 qt canteen volume to measure the fill, with about 11 oz of water left in the last canteen (32 oz or 2 lbs of water per qt; "a pint is a pound").

Rehearsal of the draining procedure for a CamelBak installed onto a Large ALICE Pack Frame. There is about 1 lb of unnecessary gear that I stuffed into the lower/sides of the ruck to bulge it out too tight. I have since removed the items and everything fell back into good-looking place. It pays to think in terms of filling the volume of the pack, rather than stuffing it tight to the point your 2 qt canteen cover might break. I am now looking at a 40 lb ruck that will accept 11+ lbs of water and maybe 3 additional pounds of butt pack, with some items transferred from M-3 Medic Bag to butt pack, further maintaining a fashionable appearance that ducks under the branches well enough, even with a machete attached.

The cheap machete sheath works well with the ruck, and better as the ruck achieves about optimum volume-fill; with lower volume the machete sheath moves up and down to allow the ruck the sit upright without much worry of sheath damage, and it can be lowered again for ruck carry, to allow for ducking under tree branches without much worry.

"The Precipitant has a smaller place in reality, thus it is mortal."
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8uMCQrAxylM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0619bdpOolA
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