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Trump May Pardon US Soldiers Accused Or Convicted Of War Crimes – NYT's
Eldog Wilbury
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Is this the sunday morning communist propaganda thread?
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Eldog Wilbury  Wrote: (05-19-2019 06:02 PM)
Is this the sunday morning communist propaganda thread?

You're welcome to debate...or just blabber incoherent bullshit like you always do...it's your choice
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Isabella  Wrote: (05-19-2019 05:58 PM)
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Sadly it is, and his degenerate base is just a clapping....

No truer words spoken...


Trump reportedly taking broad look at veterans convicted of battlefield crimes

May 9,2019


"President Trump, who in recent days pardoned a former U.S. soldier convicted in 2009 of killing an Iraqi prisoner, is taking a broad look at veterans jailed for battlefield crimes and considering granting more of them similar relief.

Roughly 24 veterans are awaiting trial for combat zone actions, five are locked up at the federal penitentiary in Leavenworth, Kan., and many others have completed jail sentences, said David Gurfein, the chairman of United American Patriots, a nonprofit that advocates for veterans prosecuted for battlefield crimes.

Gurfein told Fox News that United American Patriots has provided details about those cases to Trump in response to a question he raised in a meeting with a congressman recently about how many veterans have been prosecuted and convicted for crimes in war zones.lol

“We are sending our warriors into some of the most dangerous environments we could possibly imagine,” Gurfein told Fox News. “They engage our nation’s enemies, yet we’re judging them by our domestic standards, as if it were happening here, on Main Street, U.S.A.”

On Monday, Trump pardoned Michael Behenna, who was convicted in 2009 of unpremeditated murder in a combat zone in the 2008 killing of Ali Mansur Mohamed, an unarmed Iraqi prisoner.




Behenna said he acted in self-defense when the man reached for Behenna’s handgun, but the Army said the argument didn’t hold up because Behenna was pointing his weapon at the prisoner.



Behenna admitted during his trial that instead of taking the prisoner home as he was ordered, he took the man to a railroad culvert, stripped him, then questioned him at gunpoint about a roadside bombing that had killed two members of Behenna’s platoon.

A military appeals court in 2012 found that jury instructions on self-defense were incorrect, and that prosecutors had failed to tell the defense of a crime scene expert who supported the claim of self-defense. Still, the court said the errors were harmless and did not affect the outcome of the trial.

“What I was told by President Trump ... was that I received a pardon because of the prosecutorial misconduct that happened during the trial,” Behenna said at a Wednesday press conference in Oklahoma, his home state.

The White House said in an announcement about the pardon: "Mr. Behenna’s case has attracted broad support from the military, Oklahoma elected officials, and the public. ... U.S. Army’s highest appellate court noted concern about how the trial court had handled Mr. Behenna’s claim of self-defense...Thirty-seven generals and admirals, along with a former inspector general of the Department of Defense, signed a brief in support of Mr. Behenna’s self-defense claim."

"In light of these facts, Mr. Behenna is entirely deserving of this grant of executive clemency."

Gurfein said that veterans who have completed jail sentences "still have the stigma of being a convict, the stigma of having committed murder -- even when they were wrongly accused and convicted -- hanging over their head."

Trump is said to be paying particular attention to a pardon request he has received on behalf of Army First Lt. Clint Lorance, who is serving a 20-year sentence in Leavenworth for ordering his men to shoot two suspected Taliban scouts in Afghanistan back in 2012.

Lorance’s attorney, John Maher, wrote a letter to Trump last year that said, “Of all the requests before you, this case stands out because the evidence shows that Clint is not guilty – he is innocent.”


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Republican candidate running for Congress has violent past

By Carl Campanile

October 17, 2016 | 6:23am
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David GurfeinPeter Walden Sr

A former Marine lieutenant running for a Long Island congressional seat was once busted for roughing up the mother of his child during an ugly custody battle when they lived in Nevada, court records reveal.

Republican David “Bull” Gurfein, 51, a decorated veteran who served on the front lines in Iraq and in Afghanistan, is challenging Democratic Rep. Kathleen Rice in Nassau County’s Fourth Congressional District.

But his record of valor is marred by the ugly domestic-violence incident.

On Sept. 4, 2010, Gurfein was arrested on a domestic battery charge following a confrontation with his ex-girlfriend, Marguerita Hambree Rollins, while visiting his daughter, Avery, now 8, at the ex’s home in Henderson, Nev.

According to the police complaint, Hambree-Rollins said Gurfein pushed her with both hands and knocked her on her back during an altercation in the bathroom.

Gurfein was bathing his daughter and was upset when Hambree Rollins entered the bathroom.

“I noticed that Marguerita had two bruises on her right arm, one above her elbow and one below, consistent with someone grabbing her arm. I also noticed that Marguerita had scrapes on her left elbow consistent with a fall,” Officer Daniel Medrano said in the police report.

“I asked Marguerita if there were other incidents like this one and she advised, ‘Yes it has happened in the past,’ ” the officer said.

Gurfein is 6-foot-2 and weights 220 pounds. Humbree-Rollins is 5-foot-9 and 140 pounds.

Gurfein gave conflicting accounts of what happened, according to police.

“David advised that he started to push Marguerita out the door with both hands but later changed his statement by saying he did not touch her,” Medrano said.

Gurfein said Humbree-Rolls fell to the ground when her leg hit a piece of furniture after the bathroom door she was holding swung open.

Gurfein pleaded no contest to the misdemeanor battery charge. He was sentenced to undergo anger-control counseling for the first-time offense.

Gurfein sought to downplay the battery charge, saying he didn’t want to discuss the details of the incident and inflame tensions with Humbree-Rollins.

“I was in the middle of a child-custody battle. I was fighting for custody of my daughter,” he told The Post.

“What mattered was what’s best for my daughter,” said Gurfein, who is celebrating his second-year wedding anniversary to his wife, Beth.

“I got equal custody to my daughter. It was the greatest victory in my life. At the end of the day, my daughter is happy and healthy,” he said.

Humbree-Rollins declined to comment.




https://nypost.com/2016/10/17/republican...lent-past/

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Eldog Wilbury  Wrote: (05-19-2019 06:02 PM)
Is this the sunday morning communist propaganda thread?

You're welcome to debate...or just blabber incoherent bullshit like you always do...it's your choice

Its a simple question ...obviously way above your paygrade...perhaps the accused were wrongly convicted by a liberal minded court who have sympathy for the enemy..
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Yes! It's always good to reward psychopaths for their psychopathic behavior! facepalm


The stupid bastard will probably also promote them to some influential positions in his government.. because one can never have too many psychopaths surrounding and influencing you!
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Eldog Wilbury  Wrote: (05-19-2019 06:12 PM)
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You're welcome to debate...or just blabber incoherent bullshit like you always do...it's your choice

Its a simple question ...obviously way above your paygrade...perhaps the accused were wrongly convicted by a liberal minded court who have sympathy for the enemy..

I love the smell of extreme ignorance in the morning!!

Ihoohase
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Eldog Wilbury  Wrote: (05-19-2019 06:12 PM)
Its a simple question ...obviously way above your paygrade...perhaps the accused were wrongly convicted by a liberal minded court who have sympathy for the enemy..

I love the smell of extreme ignorance in the morning!!

Ihoohase

Smart enough to know you are an obvious ignorant communist enabler.
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Eldog Wilbury  Wrote: (05-19-2019 06:02 PM)
Is this the sunday morning communist propaganda thread?

Nah, just another thread that has the possibility (if Trump does pardon these convicted soldiers or those for waiting for their military trials) that will show once again Trump's total disregard for laws on criminal behavior as long as he has something to gain politically or financially.

Rofl

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LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-19-2019 06:13 PM)
Yes! It's always good to reward psychopaths for their psychopathic behavior! facepalm


The stupid bastard will probably also promote them to some influential positions in his government.. because one can never have too many psychopaths surrounding and influencing you!







Rofl Just this week..

Trump pardons billionaire friend Conrad Black, who wrote a book about him

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Eldog Wilbury  Wrote: (05-19-2019 06:12 PM)
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You're welcome to debate...or just blabber incoherent bullshit like you always do...it's your choice

Its a simple question ...obviously way above your paygrade...perhaps the accused were wrongly convicted by a liberal minded court who have sympathy for the enemy..

So now the military courts just have to be filled with sympathetic Liberals.Rofl

Pathetic and desperate reasoning trying to defend your daddy.

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Isabella  Wrote: (05-19-2019 06:26 PM)
Eldog Wilbury  Wrote: (05-19-2019 06:02 PM)
Is this the sunday morning communist propaganda thread?

Nah, just another thread that has the possibility (if Trump does pardon these convicted soldiers or those for waiting for their military trials) that will show once again Trump's total disregard for laws on criminal behavior as long as he has something to gain politically or financially.

Rofl

Raw red meat for the most depraved of the Trump'ers. This is setting the table for the idea of Trump to potentially go full dictator and pardon the paramilitary thugs and any actual troops that stand with him. It will not work but the most deranged of the Trump base will fap to the idea of a Trump fuhrer.

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Isabella  Wrote: (05-19-2019 06:33 PM)
Eldog Wilbury  Wrote: (05-19-2019 06:12 PM)
Its a simple question ...obviously way above your paygrade...perhaps the accused were wrongly convicted by a liberal minded court who have sympathy for the enemy..

So now the military courts just have to be filled with sympathetic Liberals.Rofl

Pathetic and desperate reasoning trying to defend your daddy.

That's the best his little commie-obsessed brain can come up with.

Pure ignorance.
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Yes! It's always good to reward psychopaths for their psychopathic behavior! facepalm


The stupid bastard will probably also promote them to some influential positions in his government.. because one can never have too many psychopaths surrounding and influencing you!

That will take a few weeks, they first need a few appearances on Hannity's entertainment show

Jptdknpa

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Isabella  Wrote: (05-19-2019 06:33 PM)
Eldog Wilbury  Wrote: (05-19-2019 06:12 PM)
Its a simple question ...obviously way above your paygrade...perhaps the accused were wrongly convicted by a liberal minded court who have sympathy for the enemy..

So now the military courts just have to be filled with sympathetic Liberals.Rofl

Pathetic and desperate reasoning trying to defend your daddy.

I did not say filled but most assuredly infiltrated.
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Looky  Wrote: (05-19-2019 05:53 PM)
Faux outrage, at something the president might do, is pinned.


Popcorn


As the OP noted, he's already done it once.


"Earlier this month he pardoned Matthew Behenna, a former US soldier who was convicted in 2009 of killing an Iraqi prisoner." https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019...york-times
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