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Origins Of The Deep State, a Clever Mask Of Elite Oligarchs
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It is undoubted that the printing of excess money is a big problem, but the everyday welfare of Americans depends on good jobs. With free trade American workers are competing with workers in Asia paid one tenth of American wages. Free trade is the death sentence to good wages. The recent hires in the US labor market are all low wage workers, mostly service industry that can't be sent over seas:

Most jobs created since the recession have been low-paying

https://www.axios.com/most-jobs-created-...c296f.html

The plan of the globalists, communists, and socialists, is to destroy the middle class. In communist Russia these were called the "bourgeoisie", and many were summarily shot or sent to gulags in Siberia. The same happened to the middle class in China, and Cambodia when communists took over.

That's exactly what has happened in Silicon Valley. There is no Middle Class. What's left of it is mainly Hispanic legal/illegal workers working for cheap wages. if this happens to the rest of the country watch out! Mountain View (Google) has a very large population of retirees/homeless living in RV's and cars. It's truly a terrifying site here right now.

Ending free trade can reverse the increasing poverty of the US. Good paying jobs are the remedy for homelessness and the escalating cost of living. Inflation is caused by too much money printing, but if the people have good jobs and increasing wages, that can compensate.

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That's exactly what has happened in Silicon Valley. There is no Middle Class. What's left of it is mainly Hispanic legal/illegal workers working for cheap wages. if this happens to the rest of the country watch out! Mountain View (Google) has a very large population of retirees/homeless living in RV's and cars. It's truly a terrifying site here right now.

Ending free trade can reverse the increasing poverty of the US. Good paying jobs are the remedy for homelessness and the escalating cost of living. Inflation is caused by too much money printing, but if the people have good jobs and increasing wages, that can compensate.

Is this a big part of the reason why they assassinated A. Lincoln and JFK? I know a big part of it was perpetual warfare being waged by the Pentagon especially in the Middle East however I've heard of 'green backs' rumored to being circulated in the economy by both A. Lincoln and JFK? I don't think D. trump has addressed this issue at all maybe because he wishes to stay alive.
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The New Republic by Wells was an important modern continuation of Plato.

If anyone wants to see a rather disturbing well known Fabian in his own words, check this out. Terrifying.

Bernard Shaw.





Also of note Tony Blair's words.

The Fabian Window is a stained-glass window depicting the founders of the Fabian Society, designed by George Bernard Shaw. The window was stolen from Beatrice Webb House in Dorking in 1978 and reappeared at Sotheby's in 2005. It was restored to display in the Shaw Library at the London School of Economics in 2006 at a ceremony presided over by then-Prime-Minister Tony Blair, emphasizing New Labour's intellectual debt to the Fabians.

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Ending free trade can reverse the increasing poverty of the US. Good paying jobs are the remedy for homelessness and the escalating cost of living. Inflation is caused by too much money printing, but if the people have good jobs and increasing wages, that can compensate.

Is this a big part of the reason why they assassinated A. Lincoln and JFK? I know a big part of it was perpetual warfare being waged by the Pentagon especially in the Middle East however I've heard of 'green backs' rumored to being circulated in the economy by both A. Lincoln and JFK? I don't think D. trump has addressed this issue at all maybe because he wishes to stay alive.

Since the earliest days of America the issue of tariffs and free trade have split the country. The slave states wanted free trade and the northern mills wanted protection from cheap imports. Lincoln won the war and tariffs ruled for a while. But after FDR and the Democrats(mostly from the South) took over, they abolished tariffs. It's been a bit mixed since then but as the industrialists became multi nationalists, they pushed hard for free trade so they could take advantage of cheap labor overseas. It wasn't until Trump started his tariffs that things started to change.

https://hbr.org/2016/04/americas-uneasy-...free-trade

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The New Republic by Wells was an important modern continuation of Plato.

If anyone wants to see a rather disturbing well known Fabian in his own words, check this out. Terrifying.

Bernard Shaw.

Was Edward Bernays a Fabian?

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The New Republic by Wells was an important modern continuation of Plato.

If anyone wants to see a rather disturbing well known Fabian in his own words, check this out. Terrifying.

Bernard Shaw.

Was Edward Bernays a Fabian?

Whether Bernays approved of controlling the masses for the Fabian communist elite he made major contributions toward mind control and propaganda. He was an inspiration behind Tavistock, the English mind control operations:
https://infrakshun.wordpress.com/2015/03...tavistock/

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If anyone wants to know what the Fabians and their progeny the deep state want all they have to do is read the writings of members of the Fabian Society, especially George Orwell's 1984 and Animal Farm. Aldous Huxley's Brave New World also. To look at a society that fully exemplifies the goals of the Fabians China is the best example but North Korea is probably the ultimate example of it.

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The New Republic by Wells was an important modern continuation of Plato.

If anyone wants to see a rather disturbing well known Fabian in his own words, check this out. Terrifying.

Bernard Shaw.

Was Edward Bernays a Fabian?

I'm not positive, but there is no doubt he was one of the most influential propagandists and advertisers in history.

Wouldn't surprise me.

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Natura Naturans  Wrote: (05-21-2019 07:03 PM)
If anyone wants to know what the Fabians and their progeny the deep state want all they have to do is read the writings of members of the Fabian Society, especially George Orwell's 1984 and Animal Farm. Aldous Huxley's Brave New World also. To look at a society that fully exemplifies the goals of the Fabians China is the best example but North Korea is probably the ultimate example of it.

Didn't Cecil Rhodes start the Fabian Society?

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Also of note the "Father of the movement, Plato historically", not only promoted eugenics of being the best for the state and selective breeding.

But that the notion of it, or the pursuit of it should be unknown by everyone but the rulers.

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If anyone wants to know what the Fabians and their progeny the deep state want all they have to do is read the writings of members of the Fabian Society, especially George Orwell's 1984 and Animal Farm. Aldous Huxley's Brave New World also. To look at a society that fully exemplifies the goals of the Fabians China is the best example but North Korea is probably the ultimate example of it.
Thanks for your knowledge. Gotta go! Be back later!
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May want to fact check all of this, but old link from my notes in the past.

https://modernhistoryproject.org/mhp?Art...ning&C=5.1

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The Fabian Socialist Society (1884- )

On October 24, 1883, in London, a group of 17 wealthy Socialists gathered to discuss a 'Fellowship of the New Life,' which was based on the writings of scholar Thomas Davidson, who hoped to start some sort of monastic order. The group included:

George Bernard Shaw
Graham Wallas, a classical scholar
Sidney James Webb, a civil servant and influential socialist
Edward Pease
Havelock Ellis
Frank Podmore
Annie Besant, a member of the Theosophical Society
John Galsworthy
R.H. Tawney
G.D.H. Cole
Harold Laski
Israel Cohen, a Jewish writer [E1]
Israel Zangwill (1864-1926), a Jewish playwright and novelist, who in 1910 wrote the play The Melting Pot, which was a propaganda play showing how Americans discriminated against Blacks and Jews.

Some of these people were also members of the Society for Psychical Research, an organization dedicated to spiritualism research, which was founded in 1882.

On November 7, 1883, this group met to discuss the establishment of an organization "whose ultimate aim shall be the reconstruction of Society in accordance with the highest moral possibilities." However, they split into two factions, and on January 4, 1884, one of the factions established a group known as the Fabian Society. On January 25th, one member, J. G. Stapleton, delivered their first lecture, called "Social Conditions in England, With a View to Social Reconstruction or Development." At a time when there were 30,000 Socialist voters, after a few weeks they only had 20 members. In April, 1884, their first publication was distributed, a four-page pamphlet called Why Are We Poor?

In May 1884, journalist George Bernard Shaw (1864-1926) joined and soon became the leading figure of the Fabians. He was a free-thinking Marxist-atheist writer whose plays contained socialistic references, an ideology he pursued after hearing a speech by American economist Henry George in 1882 and reading Marx's Das Kapital. (He later won the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1925).

In March, 1885, Sidney Webb (1859-1947), then a clerk from the Colonial Office, joined; and in 1886, so did Graham Wallas. Shaw, Webb, Wallas, and Sydney Olivier became known as the 'Big Four.' The other faction, known as 'The Fellowship,' continued for 15 years under Davidson, with members such J. Ramsey MacDonald (who later became Prime Minister), Edward Carpenter, and Havelock Ellis.

In 1884, John W. Martin and Rev. W. D. P. Bliss moved to Boston (MA), and established a magazine known as The American Fabian. The move was an unsuccessful effort to bring the Fabian's socialistic movement to New York, Philadelphia, San Francisco, and Chicago.

In 1887, their pamphlet Facts for Socialists maintained that any person who knew the facts of Socialism, had no other choice but to be one. It was their best selling piece of propaganda. By 1889, 6500 tracts had been distributed, and 31 speakers had delivered 721 lectures. From 1891-92, there had been 3,339 lectures given by 117 Fabian members. Their membership rose to 400 by 1892, 681 in 1894, and 881 in 1899. They had 74 local chapters in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India, South Africa, Spain, Denmark, and Germany.

In 1895, Sidney Webb founded the London School of Economics, which became a branch of the University of London. Among its major contributors: the Rockefeller Foundation, the Carnegie United Kingdom Trust, and Mrs. Ernest Elmhirst, the widow of J. P. Morgan partner Willard Straight, who founded the socialist magazine New Republic.

In 1899, The Fabian Essays, the most noted work on Socialism, was written by seven influential members of the Society, and edited by George Bernard Shaw. It became the blueprint for socialistic legislation, and was later reprinted in 1908, 1920, 1931, and 1952.

In 1912, Webb established an independent journal called The New Statesman, and later became a leader in the Labour Party, writing Labor and the Social Order in 1918. He held several political offices, and was a disciple of John Stuart Mill, who served as the Secretary of the British East India Company.

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Why did Spain give Florida to the English ?

Who stop the English from gaining more land
In the U S ?

Who was sinking Spanish ships full of gold ?
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Natura Naturans  Wrote: (05-21-2019 07:03 PM)
If anyone wants to know what the Fabians and their progeny the deep state want all they have to do is read the writings of members of the Fabian Society, especially George Orwell's 1984 and Animal Farm. Aldous Huxley's Brave New World also. To look at a society that fully exemplifies the goals of the Fabians China is the best example but North Korea is probably the ultimate example of it.

Didn't Cecil Rhodes start the Fabian Society?
Yes, he was an inspiration behind the society, but he was such a powerful figure having collected immense wealth from South African gold and silver mines that his participation in secret societies WITHIN the Fabian society and others exposes the real purpose of these oraganizations, oligarch control of the world:


"In the 1870s, Oxford professor John Ruskin persuaded his elite British students that "they had a moral obligation to disseminate English culture and unite the world under British rule. [1] By early 1900s, many of his students held strategic positions in the English Government. None of his students would spread the vision more effectively than Cecil Rhodes, who accumulated the needed wealth in African gold and diamond mines. Rhodes wrote,

"The Society ['of the Elect'] should inspire and even own portions of the press for the press rules the mind of the people. The Society should always be searching for members who might by their position in the world by their energies or character forward the object…"[2]

In 1890, Rhodes sent his friend W. T. Stead a letter explaining his plan for world government:

"The key of my idea discussed with you is a Society, copied from the Jesuits as to organization [rising levels of secrecy as in Freemasonry]... an idea which ultimately (leads) to the cessation of all wars and one language throughout the world.... The only thing feasible to carry this idea out is a secret one [a secret society] gradually absorbing the wealth of the world to be devoted to such an object."[3, p.13]

To fulfill his global vision, Rhodes established the Rhodes Trust. The inner circle of this "secret society" - "The Society of the Elect" -- included freemason Lord Alfred Milner, William T. Stead and Reginald Baliol Brett (titled Lord Esher). When Rhodes died in 1902, he left the "Society," the Rhodes Trust and the leadership primarily in the "hands" of Lord Milner. This Round Table Group would eventually establish numerous international branches. In the U.S.A, it would be called the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR).

Few have done more to expose this revolutionary agenda than Carrol Quigley, the history professor at the Foreign Service Schools of Georgetown University whom Clinton honored in his acceptance speech at the Democratic Convention, July 16, 1992. In his 1300-page tome, Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time, Quigley wrote:

"By 1915, Round Table Groups existed in seven countries, including England...(and) the United States.... Since 1925, there have been substantial contributions from wealthy individuals, and from foundations and firms associated with the international banking fraternity, especially... organizations associated with J. P. Morgan, the Rockefeller and Whitney families...." [5-Carroll Quigley, p.950-951]

In 1913, President Woodrow Wilson expressed his concern over this secret movement toward world government his book, The New Freedom:

"We are in a new world.... In the new order, government and business must be associated closely.... We stand in the presence of a revolution.... (which) will come in peaceful guise..."[That sounds like Fabian Socialism!]



"Some of the biggest men in the U.S., in the field of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.... We have been dreading all along the time when the combined power of high finance would be greater than the power of government....



"We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated, governments in the civilized world—no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men....We stand in the presence of a revolution... (which) will come in peaceful guise."[4-Cuddy, pp.24-25]

That same year, President Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Act with the guidance of Frank Vanderlip, president of Rockefeller’s National City Bank."[4-Cuddy, p.25]



The CFR was founded in 1921, mainly through the "mysterious" Round Table "Insider" Col. Mandel House, President Wilson's "counter-ego." It would be the U.S. equivalent of Britain's Royal Institute of International Affairs. As you read earlier,

"...the tasks was entrusted to Lionel Curtis who established, in England and each dominion, a front organization to the existing local Round Table Group. This front organization called the Royal Institute of International Affairs, had as its nucleus in each area the existing submerged Round Table Group. In New York it was known as the Council on Foreign Relations.... In fact, the original plans for the Royal Institute of International Affairs and the Council on Foreign Relations were drawn up at Paris." [5-Quigley, pp.951-952]

To build the envisioned network of global support, it would spend tens of millions of dollars annually from the major tax-exempt foundations such as the Carnegie and Rockefeller foundations. [6, page 54]

Keep in mind, the CFR as a whole is not made up of secret conspirators. Its membership list is available to the public. "Most CFR members are not involved in a conspiracy," wrote Anthony C. Sutton "and have no knowledge of any conspiracy. However,

"there is a GROUP WITHIN the Council on Foreign Relations which belongs to a secret society, sworn to secrecy, and which more or less controls the CFR. CFR meetings are used for their own purposes, i.e., to push out ideas, to weigh up people who might be useful, to use meetings as a form for discussion."[7]

In other words, the layered organizational structure might be compared not only to Jesuits, as Cecil Rhodes indicated, but also to the Freemasons with its inner core of secret masters. Describing this financial system with power to bribe and command governments around the world, New York city Mayor John Hylan warned:

"...the real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, State and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of self-created screen. It seizes in its long and powerful tentacles our executive officers, our legislative bodies, our schools, our courts, our newspapers and every agency created for the public protection."[4]

Now in 2019 this "secret society" of oligarchs owns at least half the world's wealth, perhaps more. When you hear about the New World Order, it is this control of the world by these oligarchs that they are talking about.

http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/globalism/cfr.htm

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