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California Sues Trump Administration Over Cancelled High-Speed...
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California filed a lawsuit against President Donald Trump's administration in an effort to block the administration's recent move to cancel nearly $1 billion in funding for the state's high-speed rail project.

Last Thursday, the Federal Railroad Administration announced it would yank the $928 million contract it entered into with California because the state had not been keeping up with its end of the bargain and had "failed to make reasonable progress on the project." The deal required California to construct a 119-mile segment in the Central Valley by 2022, a deadline that the FRA says the state will be unable to meet in time.

The FRA also accused California of abandoning an initial plan that would create a high-speed rail route between San Francisco with Los Angeles.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom called the move by the Trump administration illegal and political retribution against the state for its resistance to several of Trump's immigration policies over the last few years.

"The real motive underlying FRA’s action was political: to punish California for opposing President Trump’s proposed border wall,” the state plans to argue, according to a report from The Sacramento Bee. "There is no reasonable alternative explanation for FRA’s abrupt and unprecedented action or the manner in which it disregarded its own practice and established principles of fairness and due process."

California also intends to filed for a temporary restraining order that would block the administration from awarding the money to another project.

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RE: California Sues Trump Administration Over Cancelled High-Speed...
Tough call.

Was political retribution.

But didn't California already abandon the project?

There is no such thing as sovereign debt. Reinstate Greenbacks.
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RE: California Sues Trump Administration Over Cancelled High-Speed...
It wasn't happening. The only proposed section was between two rural cities near Bakersfield. Not a thing to spend billions on.

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RE: California Sues Trump Administration Over Cancelled High-Speed...
Sounds like either a bunch of deadbeats or an intentional scam to fleece the feds. They just got called on it.
As much as we all hate it. California is part of the country. It's not their border with Mexico, it's America's.
They're so freaking obnoxious.
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RE: California Sues Trump Administration Over Cancelled High-Speed...
Didn't Elon Musk admit he is an Actor?
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RE: California Sues Trump Administration Over Cancelled High-Speed...
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-21-2019 09:45 PM)
Sounds like either a bunch of deadbeats or an intentional scam to fleece the feds. They just got called on it.
As much as we all hate it. California is part of the country. It's not their border with Mexico, it's America's.
They're so freaking obnoxious.

Everyone else gets to scam the federal government for billions why not California?

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RE: California Sues Trump Administration Over Cancelled High-Speed...
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (05-21-2019 09:31 PM)
Tough call.

Was political retribution.

But didn't California already abandon the project?

Yeah, the state of California wants to keep a billion dollars for a project they cancelled.

Neat trick if they could pull it off. The logic is "we are the government of California and if you give us money it is ours".

The cost of the system tripled since 2008. Newsom is building 1/3 of it (171 miles) out of 520 miles planned in phase i and 800 in phase II. Since the funding was for the cancelled LA to SF leg and not the Central Valley leg... the money is for a project that doesn't exist.
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RE: California Sues Trump Administration Over Cancelled High-Speed...
They need tunnels and trains for human trafficking operations.
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RE: California Sues Trump Administration Over Cancelled High-Speed...
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-21-2019 09:45 PM)
Sounds like either a bunch of deadbeats or an intentional scam to fleece the feds. They just got called on it.
As much as we all hate it. California is part of the country. It's not their border with Mexico, it's America's.
They're so freaking obnoxious.

States have the right to decide their own policy of immigration.
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RE: California Sues Trump Administration Over Cancelled High-Speed...
The section they are building is completely flat.

Completely f*cking flat.

Probably flatter than anyone can imagine.

If you cant build 119 miles of train tracks in completely f*cking flat terrain you dont deserve funding.
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RE: California Sues Trump Administration Over Cancelled High-Speed...
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-21-2019 11:30 PM)
They need tunnels and trains for human trafficking operations.

We need a much improved Amtrak system nation-wide.

I'd ride it if I could ride it.

But it doesn't connect to Tulsa.

You have to go to Oklahoma City first, then to Dallas before you can go anywhere on it.

chuckle

One of the problems with California is over-development.

Costs too much to buy the land that's developed, costs too much to tunnel underneath it.

And just doing LA to San Francisco or another little link between rich suburbs doesn't really count as a transportation system.

Needs to connect to everything possible.

There is no such thing as sovereign debt. Reinstate Greenbacks.
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RE: California Sues Trump Administration Over Cancelled High-Speed...
tamarack  Wrote: (05-22-2019 12:04 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-21-2019 09:45 PM)
Sounds like either a bunch of deadbeats or an intentional scam to fleece the feds. They just got called on it.
As much as we all hate it. California is part of the country. It's not their border with Mexico, it's America's.
They're so freaking obnoxious.

States have the right to decide their own policy of immigration.

NO

THEY

DON'T

That is strictly controlled by the federal government per constitution.

Liar.
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RE: California Sues Trump Administration Over Cancelled High-Speed...
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (05-22-2019 12:42 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-21-2019 11:30 PM)
They need tunnels and trains for human trafficking operations.

We need a much improved Amtrak system nation-wide.

I'd ride it if I could ride it.

But it doesn't connect to Tulsa.

You have to go to Oklahoma City first, then to Dallas before you can go anywhere on it.

chuckle

One of the problems with California is over-development.

Cost too much to buy the land that's developed, costs too much to tunnel underneath it.

The portion in question is undeveloped flat farmland.
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RE: California Sues Trump Administration Over Cancelled High-Speed...
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-22-2019 12:44 AM)
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (05-22-2019 12:42 AM)
We need a much improved Amtrak system nation-wide.

I'd ride it if I could ride it.

But it doesn't connect to Tulsa.

You have to go to Oklahoma City first, then to Dallas before you can go anywhere on it.

chuckle

One of the problems with California is over-development.

Cost too much to buy the land that's developed, costs too much to tunnel underneath it.

The portion in question is undeveloped flat farmland.

Then they should finish it.

There is no such thing as sovereign debt. Reinstate Greenbacks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb5OQUElilo
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RE: California Sues Trump Administration Over Cancelled High-Speed...
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (05-22-2019 12:46 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (05-22-2019 12:44 AM)
The portion in question is undeveloped flat farmland.

Then they should finish it.

Why finish it when they can keep getting more money to finish it?

It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
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