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Why does Classical Music stand the test of time ?
Sultan of Wings
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RE: Why does Classical Music stand the test of time ?
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-11-2019 10:32 AM)
BECAUSE IT'S REAL MUSIC AND NOT THE CRAP THAT PASSES FOR MUSIC TODAY.

^^^^^^^^^
I agree 100%


Classical music requires effort.
The notion of effort has been annihilated nowadays.

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RE: Why does Classical Music stand the test of time ?
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (06-11-2019 12:48 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (06-10-2019 02:18 PM)
Pop music has been around since forever. it is the music
of the masses.

comparing pop to classical is like comparing bananas to apples

classical was indeed the pop music of it's time..

which evolved from a 'pop music' of an earlier age




Quote:Pope Gregory the Great made a contribution that would last over the centuries. For want of a suitable accompaniment to the prayer services, the deeply religious Chant was quickly lapped up by churches all over the world, and entered the Christian psyche as it never had before. It kept on becoming more and more popular till the 11th and 12th centuries, when for some inexplicable reason, they began dying out. This was also the period of the general decadence of the Christian Church, and not just the Gregorian Chant.
Quote:Today, the Gregorian Chant we hear is very much the plainchant that was used in pre-Christ times. But we find them everywhere - on the radio, on television, on the Internet and even in music videos. This is the oldest form of music that still appeals so widely, and it is difficult to think that the music has been pushed into oblivion more than once, only to emerge stronger than before.
https://spiritualray.com/the-history-of-gregorian-chant

Early Musical Notation and the Church

Quote:The early development of Western musical notation arose in the hands of the Church in various parts of Europe including Spain and Italy. Many of the earliest music notations were for choral music, with the notes being typically indicated above the word or syllable of the text being sung. The church music of this period is known as "Plainchant" or "Gregorian chant" named after Gregory the Great who was Pope from 590 until his death in 604 AD. However, exact pitches were still not specified at this time, only whether notes should be higher or lower than the previous one. This problem was fixed by introducing horizontal lines to the music notation, firstly a single line but before long all Plainchant was notated in churches and monasteries using a system based on a stave of 4 horizontal lines.

Fragment of Pérotin's work called Alleluia Nativitas The stave of 4 lines is usually attributed to an Italian Benedictine Monk called Guido of Arezzo (approx. 991-1033). In "Micrologus" a treatise on music notation, he also used the initial letters of a hymn to define musical pitches. These letters were ut, re mi, fa, sol, la. In most countries "Ut" became "Do" and centuries later with the addition of "ti" the system came to be called the sol-fa notation which was taught in many schools. When Gregorian Chant became more complex, its notation followed suit. The French composer Pérotin (approx. 1200 AD) helped to develop early polyphony. See his "Alleluia Nativitas" at the right which has 3 parts, the top 2 parts using 5-line staves. The next major invention was a means to indicate rhythm, and various rhythmic indications were introduced from about the 13th century. The power of musical notation is now obvious because, with a little knowledge, it becomes possible to create a repeatable musical work. Indeed we can recreate the church music of this period and know what it sounds like. Examples of Gregorian Chant on mfiles include the Dies Irae and the Pange Lingua though recreated using modern notation.
https://www.mfiles.co.uk/music-notation-history.htm
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RE: Why does Classical Music stand the test of time ?
After the Medieval and Renaissance periods, Johann Sebastian Bach came and he revolutionized music.

He was an extremely prolific improviser and composer. A genius at his own art.

Musical style

2.1 Four-part harmony
2.2 Modulations
2.3 Ornamentation
2.4 Giving soloist roles to continuo instruments
2.5 Instrumentation
2.6 Counterpoint
2.7 Structure, lyrics

Compositions

3.1 Passions and oratorios
3.2 Cantatas
3.3 A cappella music
3.4 Church music in Latin
3.5 Keyboard music
3.6 Orchestral and chamber music
3.7 Copies, arrangements and works with an uncertain attribution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johann_Sebastian_Bach

https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2018/05/...efore-bach

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Sultan of Wings  Wrote: (06-11-2019 03:19 PM)
2.4 Giving soloist roles to continuo instruments

Jazz ,baby !

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spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (06-11-2019 03:33 PM)
Sultan of Wings  Wrote: (06-11-2019 03:19 PM)
2.4 Giving soloist roles to continuo instruments

Jazz ,baby !

You can say Debussy is Jazz or at least a precursor.

snip:
With early influences including Russian and far-eastern music, Debussy developed his own style of harmony and orchestral colouring, derided – and unsuccessfully resisted – by much of the musical establishment of the day. His works have strongly influenced a wide range of composers including Béla Bartók, Olivier Messiaen, George Benjamin, and the jazz pianist and composer Bill Evans. Debussy died from cancer at his home in Paris at the age of 55 after a composing career of a little more than 30 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Debussy

Also think of Stravinsky and Schoenberg.

Igor Stravinsky is probably one of the two most important composers of the 20th century, alongside Arnold Schoenberg. While Schoenberg started abandoning the element of “key” in his compositional style, called dodecaphony or the twelve-tone technique, Stravinsky began exploring such methods as writing in two keys simultaneously. His groundbreaking innovations were in the field of rhythmic structures, largely responsible for Stravinsky's reputation as a revolutionary who pushed the boundaries of musical design.

read more here:
http://www.kurrentmusic.com/blogviewer.h...698d3fb238

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Post: #36
RE: Why does Classical Music stand the test of time ?
Richard Eldritch  Wrote: (06-11-2019 12:32 PM)
Damnrod  Wrote: (06-10-2019 06:28 PM)
Because it is pure and touches the soul

Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Vivaldi, Tchaicovsky, Handel, Wagner


More modern....Basil Poledouris was amazing. Basil composed the original Conan soundtrack ( I watched it last night on cable)








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RE: Why does Classical Music stand the test of time ?
Another modern composition from great movie




"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery"...Thomas Jefferson

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it"...Thomas Jefferson


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Post: #38
RE: Why does Classical Music stand the test of time ?
One thing I love about Classical is the same piece can be played by different instruments and people and it results in a different sound

Rap...It just sounds the same
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Post: #39
RE: Why does Classical Music stand the test of time ?
To all who play musical instruments...

Practice, practice, practice...

I'm glad this thread was pinned.
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Post: #40
RE: Why does Classical Music stand the test of time ?
If adults are still listening to music from high school

It's safe to say. They suffer from a form of arrested development
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I think a lot of classical is meh.

It's better than rap or country, but not as good as psychedelic rock, techno, or trance.
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Post: #43
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Cos it is emotional and tells stories.
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RE: Why does Classical Music stand the test of time ?
Edvard Grieg
Piano Concerto in A minor, Op. 16
Peer Gynt Suite No. 1, Op. 46
Peer Gynt Suite No. 2, Op. 55

Heartflowers
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Jean Sibelius
Karelia
Valse Triste
Finlandia

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