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Federal Lawsuit to Stop 5G
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RE: Federal Lawsuit to Stop 5G
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Luvapottamus  Wrote: (06-14-2019 02:34 AM)
DontCare  Wrote: (06-14-2019 02:25 AM)
Yes. I know that you think it gives you an ocular migraine. The mind is fascinating in regards to the placebo effect.

It's called NOCEBO.

The Marino experiment and the Heuser experiment accounted for nocebo.

There is a nocebo effect in effect with this condition however.....

no·ce·bo
/nəˈsēbō/

noun
a detrimental effect on health produced by psychological or psychosomatic factors such as negative expectations of treatment or prognosis.

https://www.google.com/search?q=NOCEBO&r...e&ie=UTF-8

Negative expectations can make your body reactions more severe.

If for example, every time I made a phone call from my house, a tower across the street blew tobacco smoke into your house....

You might get angrier and angrier every time I made a phone call.

chuckle

If I could prove that there was a causal relationship between you making the call and the smoke being blown, then I would be well above anything that's been proven with EHS.

Anyway, it must be a bit*h for someone with your supposed condition to go out into the sun, as visible light and UV light is much more energetic than cell phone frequencies. I bet your head would pop like a balloon if sunlight touched it.
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DontCare  Wrote: (06-14-2019 02:40 AM)
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (06-14-2019 02:34 AM)
It's called NOCEBO.

The Marino experiment and the Heuser experiment accounted for nocebo.

There is a nocebo effect in effect with this condition however.....

no·ce·bo
/nəˈsēbō/

noun
a detrimental effect on health produced by psychological or psychosomatic factors such as negative expectations of treatment or prognosis.

https://www.google.com/search?q=NOCEBO&r...e&ie=UTF-8

Negative expectations can make your body reactions more severe.

If for example, every time I made a phone call from my house, a tower across the street blew tobacco smoke into your house....

You might get angrier and angrier every time I made a phone call.

chuckle

If I could prove that there was a causal relationship between you making the call and the smoke being blown, then I would be well above anything that's been proven with EHS.

Anyway, it must be a bit*h for someone with your supposed condition to go out into the sun, as visible light and UV light is much more energetic than cell phone frequencies. I bet your head would pop like a balloon if sunlight touched it.

You obviously haven't read any of the evidence I provided.

chuckle

But it's okay.

Somebody else might.

Thanks for trolling.

chuckle

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RE: Federal Lawsuit to Stop 5G
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (06-14-2019 02:43 AM)
DontCare  Wrote: (06-14-2019 02:40 AM)
If I could prove that there was a causal relationship between you making the call and the smoke being blown, then I would be well above anything that's been proven with EHS.

Anyway, it must be a bit*h for someone with your supposed condition to go out into the sun, as visible light and UV light is much more energetic than cell phone frequencies. I bet your head would pop like a balloon if sunlight touched it.

You obviously haven't read any of the evidence I provided.

chuckle

But it's okay.

Somebody else might.

Thanks for trolling.

chuckle

Nor will you read or watch anything I post. So we're even. Such as:

https://www.androidauthority.com/5g-dangers-895776/

Or:



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FIFTH CAUSE OF ACTION
(NMSA 1978 § 3-21-1(A) (2007))

THE CITY HAS ABDICATED ITS RESPONSIBILITIES AS A ZONING AUTHORITY

82. All previous paragraphs are incorporated herein by reference.

83. Cities have traditionally regulated utilities that occupy their rights-ofway in two ways: either by site-specific leases, by which the city retains control over
the location of proposed facilities, or by franchises, by which cities give up that
control.

84. In amending Chapter 27 by Ordinances 2016-42 and 2017-18, the City
of Santa Fe not only has chosen franchises over leases, but has effectively
eliminated all other land use regulations, such that an application for a franchise is the only requirement before a telecommunications company can begin erecting unlimited numbers of telecommunications facilities in the City’s public rights-ofway. The City has enacted an all-or-nothing ordinance. If the City grants a franchise, the applicant can erect unlimited numbers of antennas and towers without further interference. If the City denies a franchise, the applicant cannot operate in the City.

85. Under the federal Telecommunications Act, 47 U.S.C. §§ 253 and
332©(7)(B)(i)(I) and (II), a municipality’s regulations may not (a) have the effect of denying telecommunications service, and (b) may not discriminate between providers of functionally equivalent services. Therefore, the way Chapter 27 is now structured, the denial of any franchise to any telecommunications company would violate federal law. With respect to telecommunications facilities, the City has given up all control over its streets and sidewalks.

86. State law provides that the City “is a zoning authority” for the purpose
of “promoting health, safety, morals or the general welfare.” NMSA 1978, § 3-21-1(A) (2007). Furthermore, the City Code states as follows: “The purposes of Chapter 14 are to: (A) implement the purposes of the general plan, including guiding and accomplishing a coordinated, adjusted and harmonious development of Santa Fe that will best promote health, safety, order, convenience, prosperity and the general welfare ….” Santa Fe City Code § 14-1.3(A) (2011).

In addition, the City Code provides that “[t]he provisions of Chapter 14 apply to all land, buildings and other structures, and their uses, located within the corporate limits of Santa Fe, including land owned by local, county, state or federal agencies to the extent allowed by law.” Santa Fe City Code § 14-1.6 (2011). ....

http://www.cellphonetaskforce.org/wp-con...plaint.pdf

There's more to all of these just giving some.....

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DontCare  Wrote: (06-14-2019 02:46 AM)
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (06-14-2019 02:43 AM)
You obviously haven't read any of the evidence I provided.

chuckle

But it's okay.

Somebody else might.

Thanks for trolling.

chuckle

Nor will you read or watch anything I post. So we're even. Such as:

https://www.androidauthority.com/5g-dangers-895776/

Or:




https://seer.cancer.gov/faststats/index.html#Output

Can't verify the sources from https://www.androidauthority.com/5g-dangers-895776/

lol

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RE: Federal Lawsuit to Stop 5G
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (06-14-2019 02:51 AM)
DontCare  Wrote: (06-14-2019 02:46 AM)
Nor will you read or watch anything I post. So we're even. Such as:

https://www.androidauthority.com/5g-dangers-895776/

Or:




https://seer.cancer.gov/faststats/index.html#Output

Can't verify the sources from https://www.androidauthority.com/5g-dangers-895776/

lol

So tell us the dangers oh sage of non-ionizing radiation that flies in the face of physics and biology.
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DontCare  Wrote: (06-14-2019 02:54 AM)
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (06-14-2019 02:51 AM)
https://seer.cancer.gov/faststats/index.html#Output

Can't verify the sources from https://www.androidauthority.com/5g-dangers-895776/

lol

So tell us the dangers oh sage of non-ionizing radiation that flies in the face of physics and biology.

It flies in the face of neither.

Your old outdated radiation chart doesn't account for the electrical induction caused by RF waves.

Chart claims only ionizing radiation causes cancer.

Nonionizing radiation breaks DNA strands too.
Extremely low-frequency electromagnetic fields cause DNA strand breaks in normal cells


Quote:Results
Exposed samples presented an increase of the number of cells with high damaged DNA as compared with non-exposed cells. Quantitative evaluation of the comet assay showed a significantly (<0.001) increase of the tail lengths, of the quantity of DNA in tail and of Olive tail moments, respectively. Cell cycle analysis showed an increase of the frequency of the cells in S phase, proving the occurrence of single strand breaks. The most probable mechanism of induction of the registered effects is the production of different types of reactive oxygen species.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3897901/

Non-thermal DNA breakage by mobile-phone radiation (1800 MHz) in human fibroblasts and in transformed GFSH-R17 rat granulosa cells in vitro

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...1805000896

Exposure to non-ionizing electromagnetic fields emitted from mobile phones induced DNA damage in human ear canal hair follicle cells.

Abstract
The aim of this study was to investigate effect of radiofrequency radiation (RFR) emitted from mobile phones on DNA damage in follicle cells of hair in the ear canal. The study was carried out on 56 men (age range: 30-60 years old)in four treatment groups with n = 14 in each group. The groups were defined as follows: people who did not use a mobile phone (Control), people use mobile phones for 0-30 min/day (second group), people use mobile phones for 30-60 min/day (third group) and people use mobile phones for more than 60 min/day (fourth group). Ear canal hair follicle cells taken from the subjects were analyzed by the Comet Assay to determine DNA damages. The Comet Assay parameters measured were head length, tail length, comet length, percentage of head DNA, tail DNA percentage, tail moment, and Olive tail moment. Results of the study showed that DNA damage indicators were higher in the RFR exposure groups than in the control subjects. In addition, DNA damage increased with the daily duration of exposure. In conclusion, RFR emitted from mobile phones has a potential to produce DNA damage in follicle cells of hair in the ear canal. Therefore, mobile phone users have to pay more attention when using wireless phones.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29667447

Mobile phone use and glioma risk: A systematic review and meta-analysis

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5417432/

But cancer isn't the only problem.

Wi-Fi is an important threat to human health

Wi-Fi is an important threat to human health

7 effects have each been repeatedly reported following Wi-Fi & other EMF exposures.


Established Wi-Fi effects, include apoptosis, oxidat. stress &:


testis/sperm dysfunct; Neuropsych; DNA impact; hormone change; Ca2+ rise.


Wi-Fi is thought to act via voltage-gated calcium channel activation.


One claim of no Wi-Fi effects was found to be deeply flawed.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...5118300355

But we can go back and forth on this endlessly.

For every study I post you can find an industry funded study that says the opposite.

That's why CONSENSUS isn't science.

chuckle

You never get consensus.

What matters is the EXPERIMENTAL METHOD and REPRODUCIBLE RESULTS.

And thousands of experiments have had reproducable results showing harm from nonionizing radiation and electromagnetic fields.

There are multiple vectors and physiological effects, and many aren't FATAL.

Some are only FATAL when combined with other disease conditions.

Like diabetes:

Dirty electricity elevates blood sugar among electrically sensitive diabetics and may explain brittle diabetes.


Abstract
Transient electromagnetic fields (dirty electricity), in the kilohertz range on electrical wiring, may be contributing to elevated blood sugar levels among diabetics and pre-diabetics. By closely following plasma glucose levels in four Type 1 and Type 2 diabetics, we find that they responded directly to the amount of dirty electricity in their environment. In an electromagnetically clean environment, Type 1 diabetics require less insulin and Type 2 diabetics have lower levels of plasma glucose. Dirty electricity, generated by electronic equipment and wireless devices, is ubiquitous in the environment. Exercise on a treadmill, which produces dirty electricity, increases plasma glucose. These findings may explain why brittle diabetics have difficulty regulating blood sugar. Based on estimates of people who suffer from symptoms of electrical hypersensitivity (3-35%), as many as 5-60 million diabetics worldwide may be affected. Exposure to electromagnetic pollution in its various forms may account for higher plasma glucose levels and may contribute to the misdiagnosis of diabetes. Reducing exposure to electromagnetic pollution by avoidance or with specially designed GS filters may enable some diabetics to better regulate their blood sugar with less medication and borderline or pre-diabetics to remain non diabetic longer.....

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18568931

Another problem is misdiagnosis. If my GP hadn't known I had EHS, when her WIFI router elevated my blood pressure she would have prescribed blood pressure medications.

But she knew I took my BP before I sat by her router, and after I left her office I took it again, and after about an hour it was normal again.

The next time I went, I showed up right on time, instead of 30 minutes early(they want you there 15 minutes early, then you have to sit next to their router.)

When I showed up on time, BP was normal.

So she knew not to prescribe blood pressure medication.

If I had taken BP meds I could have had LOW BLOOD pressure which also can be deadly.

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What's a voltage gated calcium ion channel?

Voltage-gated calcium channels (VGCCs), also known as voltage-dependent calcium channels (VDCCs), are a group of voltage-gated ion channels found in the membrane of excitable cells (e.g., muscle, glial cells, neurons, etc.) with a permeability to the calcium ion Ca2+.[1][2]

These channels are slightly permeable to sodium ions, so they are also called Ca2+-Na+ channels, but their permeability to calcium is about 1000-fold greater than to sodium under normal physiological conditions.[3] At physiologic or resting membrane potential, VGCCs are normally closed.

They are activated (i.e., opened) at depolarized membrane potentials and this is the source of the "voltage-gated" epithet. The concentration of calcium (Ca2+ ions) is normally several thousand times higher outside the cell than inside.

Activation of particular VGCCs allows a Ca2+ influx into the cell, which, depending on the cell type, results in activation of calcium-sensitive potassium channels, muscular contraction,[4] excitation of neurons, up-regulation of gene expression, or release of hormones or neurotransmitters.

VGCCs have been immunolocalized in the zona glomerulosa of normal and hyperplastic human adrenal, as well as in aldosterone-producing adenomas (APA), and in the latter T-type VGCCs correlated with plasma aldosterone levels of patients.[5]

Excessive activation of VGCCs is a major component of excitotoxicity, as severely elevated levels of intracellular calcium activates enzymes which, at high enough levels, can degrade essential cellular structures.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage-ga...um_channel

Pulsed RF radiation activates these valves.

That's one of the most important mechanisms that makes RF radiation toxic.

And one of the results is involuntary muscle contractions.

When I got too close to a smart meter it caused my HEART to contract at the wrong time.

I was f**ked up for days, because it strained my heart muscle and valves.

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Luvapottamus  Wrote: (06-14-2019 06:43 PM)
DontCare  Wrote: (06-14-2019 02:54 AM)
So tell us the dangers oh sage of non-ionizing radiation that flies in the face of physics and biology.

It flies in the face of neither.

Your old outdated radiation chart doesn't account for the electrical induction caused by RF waves.

Chart claims only ionizing radiation causes cancer.

Nonionizing radiation breaks DNA strands too.
Extremely low-frequency electromagnetic fields cause DNA strand breaks in normal cells


Quote:Results
Exposed samples presented an increase of the number of cells with high damaged DNA as compared with non-exposed cells. Quantitative evaluation of the comet assay showed a significantly (<0.001) increase of the tail lengths, of the quantity of DNA in tail and of Olive tail moments, respectively. Cell cycle analysis showed an increase of the frequency of the cells in S phase, proving the occurrence of single strand breaks. The most probable mechanism of induction of the registered effects is the production of different types of reactive oxygen species.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3897901/

Non-thermal DNA breakage by mobile-phone radiation (1800 MHz) in human fibroblasts and in transformed GFSH-R17 rat granulosa cells in vitro

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...1805000896

Exposure to non-ionizing electromagnetic fields emitted from mobile phones induced DNA damage in human ear canal hair follicle cells.

Abstract
The aim of this study was to investigate effect of radiofrequency radiation (RFR) emitted from mobile phones on DNA damage in follicle cells of hair in the ear canal. The study was carried out on 56 men (age range: 30-60 years old)in four treatment groups with n = 14 in each group. The groups were defined as follows: people who did not use a mobile phone (Control), people use mobile phones for 0-30 min/day (second group), people use mobile phones for 30-60 min/day (third group) and people use mobile phones for more than 60 min/day (fourth group). Ear canal hair follicle cells taken from the subjects were analyzed by the Comet Assay to determine DNA damages. The Comet Assay parameters measured were head length, tail length, comet length, percentage of head DNA, tail DNA percentage, tail moment, and Olive tail moment. Results of the study showed that DNA damage indicators were higher in the RFR exposure groups than in the control subjects. In addition, DNA damage increased with the daily duration of exposure. In conclusion, RFR emitted from mobile phones has a potential to produce DNA damage in follicle cells of hair in the ear canal. Therefore, mobile phone users have to pay more attention when using wireless phones.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29667447

Mobile phone use and glioma risk: A systematic review and meta-analysis

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5417432/

But cancer isn't the only problem.

Wi-Fi is an important threat to human health

Wi-Fi is an important threat to human health

7 effects have each been repeatedly reported following Wi-Fi & other EMF exposures.


Established Wi-Fi effects, include apoptosis, oxidat. stress &:


testis/sperm dysfunct; Neuropsych; DNA impact; hormone change; Ca2+ rise.


Wi-Fi is thought to act via voltage-gated calcium channel activation.


One claim of no Wi-Fi effects was found to be deeply flawed.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...5118300355

But we can go back and forth on this endlessly.

For every study I post you can find an industry funded study that says the opposite.

That's why CONSENSUS isn't science.

chuckle

You never get consensus.

What matters is the EXPERIMENTAL METHOD and REPRODUCIBLE RESULTS.

And thousands of experiments have had reproducable results showing harm from nonionizing radiation and electromagnetic fields.

There are multiple vectors and physiological effects, and many aren't FATAL.

Some are only FATAL when combined with other disease conditions.

Like diabetes:

Dirty electricity elevates blood sugar among electrically sensitive diabetics and may explain brittle diabetes.


Abstract
Transient electromagnetic fields (dirty electricity), in the kilohertz range on electrical wiring, may be contributing to elevated blood sugar levels among diabetics and pre-diabetics. By closely following plasma glucose levels in four Type 1 and Type 2 diabetics, we find that they responded directly to the amount of dirty electricity in their environment. In an electromagnetically clean environment, Type 1 diabetics require less insulin and Type 2 diabetics have lower levels of plasma glucose. Dirty electricity, generated by electronic equipment and wireless devices, is ubiquitous in the environment. Exercise on a treadmill, which produces dirty electricity, increases plasma glucose. These findings may explain why brittle diabetics have difficulty regulating blood sugar. Based on estimates of people who suffer from symptoms of electrical hypersensitivity (3-35%), as many as 5-60 million diabetics worldwide may be affected. Exposure to electromagnetic pollution in its various forms may account for higher plasma glucose levels and may contribute to the misdiagnosis of diabetes. Reducing exposure to electromagnetic pollution by avoidance or with specially designed GS filters may enable some diabetics to better regulate their blood sugar with less medication and borderline or pre-diabetics to remain non diabetic longer.....

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18568931

Another problem is misdiagnosis. If my GP hadn't known I had EHS, when her WIFI router elevated my blood pressure she would have prescribed blood pressure medications.

But she knew I took my BP before I sat by her router, and after I left her office I took it again, and after about an hour it was normal again.

The next time I went, I showed up right on time, instead of 30 minutes early(they want you there 15 minutes early, then you have to sit next to their router.)

When I showed up on time, BP was normal.

So she knew not to prescribe blood pressure medication.

If I had taken BP meds I could have had LOW BLOOD pressure which also can be deadly.

Science is a consensus. The evidence just isn't there to convince the scientific community That's why your mental illness conditions will remain in the pseudoscience list of conditions right along with Morgellons disease and Adrenal Fatigue.
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DontCare  Wrote: (06-15-2019 01:47 AM)
Science is a consensus. The evidence just isn't there to convince the scientific community That's why your mental illness conditions will remain in the pseudoscience list of conditions right along with Morgellons disease and Adrenal Fatigue.

Science is not consensus. lol
Science is a methodology. There is such thing as "scientific consensus" where you poll a lot of scientists and find out what they generally agree on. Sometimes this is correct, sometimes it isn't.

Before and during Galileo's life the scientific consensus was the sun revolved around the Earth.

The scientific method eventually changed that consensus.

chuckle

But there is some consensus on this....so you have BOTH types or argument.

https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/scientists

https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/medical-doctors

https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/nurses

https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/dentists

https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/psychologists

https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/pharmacists

https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/building-biologists

Full Video of Michigan's 5G Small Cell Tower Legislation Hearing (October 4th, 2018)

The Doctors' objections begin at around 32 minutes....




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Lol the Verison stooge decides not to testify after the first doctor...

@47 minutes.

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Luvapottamus  Wrote: (06-15-2019 04:42 PM)
DontCare  Wrote: (06-15-2019 01:47 AM)
Science is a consensus. The evidence just isn't there to convince the scientific community That's why your mental illness conditions will remain in the pseudoscience list of conditions right along with Morgellons disease and Adrenal Fatigue.

Science is not consensus. lol
Science is a methodology. There is such thing as "scientific consensus" where you poll a lot of scientists and find out what they generally agree on. Sometimes this is correct, sometimes it isn't.

Before and during Galileo's life the scientific consensus was the sun revolved around the Earth.

The scientific method eventually changed that consensus.

chuckle

But there is some consensus on this....so you have BOTH types or argument.

https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/scientists

https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/medical-doctors

https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/nurses

https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/dentists

https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/psychologists

https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/pharmacists

https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/building-biologists

Full Video of Michigan's 5G Small Cell Tower Legislation Hearing (October 4th, 2018)

The Doctors' objections begin at around 32 minutes....




There is scientific consensus. Then there is scientific fringe. Guess where you are? Yup, you're right there with the "astronomers" who believe in flat earther and the "biologists" who believe in creationism.
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I hope that not only does 5G become commonplace (which is definite certainty) but that they build a tower 50' from your house. Then I'll bide my time for a few years until I can wait for you to bit*h and complain about 6G
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DontCare  Wrote: (06-15-2019 06:15 PM)
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (06-15-2019 04:42 PM)
Science is not consensus. lol
Science is a methodology. There is such thing as "scientific consensus" where you poll a lot of scientists and find out what they generally agree on. Sometimes this is correct, sometimes it isn't.

Before and during Galileo's life the scientific consensus was the sun revolved around the Earth.

The scientific method eventually changed that consensus.

chuckle

But there is some consensus on this....so you have BOTH types or argument.

https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/scientists

https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/medical-doctors

https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/nurses

https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/dentists

https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/psychologists

https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/pharmacists

https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/building-biologists

Full Video of Michigan's 5G Small Cell Tower Legislation Hearing (October 4th, 2018)

The Doctors' objections begin at around 32 minutes....




There is scientific consensus. Then there is scientific fringe. Guess where you are? Yup, you're right there with the "astronomers" who believe in flat earther and the "biologists" who believe in creationism.

You admitted you don't read any of the evidence I present.

Do you also not read any of my posts?

lol

Another question:

Is the reason you won't read the pdfs because you can't open them on your dunce fone?

chuckle

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Luvapottamus  Wrote: (06-15-2019 06:18 PM)
DontCare  Wrote: (06-15-2019 06:15 PM)
There is scientific consensus. Then there is scientific fringe. Guess where you are? Yup, you're right there with the "astronomers" who believe in flat earther and the "biologists" who believe in creationism.

You admitted you don't read any of the evidence I present.

Do you also not read any of my posts?

lol

Another question:

Is the reason you won't read the pdfs because you can't open them on your dunce fone?

chuckle

You are correct that I don't read any of your "evidence".
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