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A Major Conventional War Against Iran Is an Impossibility
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RE: A Major Conventional War Against Iran Is an Impossibility
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Natura Naturans  Wrote: (07-11-2019 09:33 PM)
Michael~AK  Wrote: (07-11-2019 09:08 PM)
Or Trump could return to the Obama-Iran deal and we could save the missiles for real enemies.

Wouldn't that be the best of all possible alternatives? I'll second you on that.

I agree wholeheartedly. Why that fat son-of-a-b¡tch squatting in the White House reneged on the Iran agreement (which, according to all sources, Iran was scrupulously holding to) is completely beyond my comprehension. Even our European allies think his approach was stupid, and I doubt if they're even going to pretend to uphold the US.

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Post: #17
RE: A Major Conventional War Against Iran Is an Impossibility
Old Whatshisname  Wrote: (07-11-2019 11:26 PM)
Natura Naturans  Wrote: (07-11-2019 09:33 PM)
Wouldn't that be the best of all possible alternatives? I'll second you on that.

I agree wholeheartedly. Why that fat son-of-a-b¡tch squatting in the White House reneged on the Iran agreement (which, according to all sources, Iran was scrupulously holding to) is completely beyond my comprehension. Even our European allies think his approach was stupid, and I doubt if they're even going to pretend to uphold the US.

The US is trying to bait them into a war. Remember when April Glasby told Saddam Husein that there would be no concerns with him invading Kuwait? We saw what happened.
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RE: A Major Conventional War Against Iran Is an Impossibility
Pasta Lover  Wrote: (07-11-2019 09:03 PM)
Russia wiped out The US proxy army known as ISIS so that wrecked that option. Iran stated recently that an attack by US/NATO forces from any middle eastern country would be treated as an act of war by that country, not just the US and would be counter attacked. If I was Iran, I would send a little memo to Qatar and the UAE that those beautiful skyscraper are going to be a big pile of rubble. Not that I would want to see that happen. Just stating from Iran's POV.

ISIS was from the very beginning a force designed to allow Russia to move its military into the region and bypass certain international agreements and laws.

Without ISIS then Russia could have never went into Syria to stop Assads removal for instance. That's just one of the many ways Russia has gained.

But have you ever stopped to think how silly it is that you say ISIS is a US proxy force?
Do you have any idea how many American soldiers have died fighting them?
I'm sure people who think like you chose to ignore this glaring fact whenever you say stupid sh*t.

This thought process that goes on in your head is something else created by Russian propaganda it is designed to turn you against your country.

"God is great! Death to America! Death to Israel! Curse upon the Jews! Victory to Islam!" - That is the slogan of Iran and it's only a matter of time before they get what's coming.

That said the US could take out the entire Iranian military from it's navy to airforce with missiles from the gulf. Clear out some airfields land huge ass jets land with troops and tanks to secure whatever.
[Image: troop-carrier-from-the-us-air-force-stan...?s=594x594]

And Iran can't stop this when it happens. There is nothing they can do whatsoever because everything they have to "attack a random building in a different neutral country and kill thousands of civilians" will be destroyed.

You think they're going to go to war without crossing all their t's and dotting all their i's?
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RE: A Major Conventional War Against Iran Is an Impossibility
engineering  Wrote: (07-11-2019 11:54 PM)
Pasta Lover  Wrote: (07-11-2019 09:03 PM)
Russia wiped out The US proxy army known as ISIS so that wrecked that option. Iran stated recently that an attack by US/NATO forces from any middle eastern country would be treated as an act of war by that country, not just the US and would be counter attacked. If I was Iran, I would send a little memo to Qatar and the UAE that those beautiful skyscraper are going to be a big pile of rubble. Not that I would want to see that happen. Just stating from Iran's POV.

ISIS was from the very beginning a force designed to allow Russia to move its military into the region and bypass certain international agreements and laws.

Without ISIS then Russia could have never went into Syria to stop Assads removal for instance. That's just one of the many ways Russia has gained.

But have you ever stopped to think how silly it is that you say ISIS is a US proxy force?
Do you have any idea how many American soldiers have died fighting them?
I'm sure people who think like you chose to ignore this glaring fact whenever you say stupid sh*t.

This thought process that goes on in your head is something else created by Russian propaganda it is designed to turn you against your country.

"God is great! Death to America! Death to Israel! Curse upon the Jews! Victory to Islam!" - That is the slogan of Iran and it's only a matter of time before they get what's coming.

That said the US could take out the entire Iranian military from it's navy to airforce with missiles from the gulf. Clear out some airfields land huge ass jets land with troops and tanks to secure whatever.
[Image: troop-carrier-from-the-us-air-force-stan...?s=594x594]

And Iran can't stop this when it happens. There is nothing they can do whatsoever because everything they have to "attack a random building in a different neutral country and kill thousands of civilians" will be destroyed.

You think they're going to go to war without crossing all their t's and dotting all their i's?

Uh,,no. General Flynn spilled the beans about who ISIS is and who created and supported them. Yes the US was killing them too but for a different reason. The US was destroying a crime scene.
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RE: A Major Conventional War Against Iran Is an Impossibility
Old Whatshisname  Wrote: (07-11-2019 11:26 PM)
Natura Naturans  Wrote: (07-11-2019 09:33 PM)
Wouldn't that be the best of all possible alternatives? I'll second you on that.

I agree wholeheartedly. Why that fat son-of-a-b¡tch squatting in the White House reneged on the Iran agreement (which, according to all sources, Iran was scrupulously holding to) is completely beyond my comprehension. Even our European allies think his approach was stupid, and I doubt if they're even going to pretend to uphold the US.

I voted for Trump because he was talking about stopping the wars in the Middle East. That is NOT what we got. Trump is joined at the hip with Netanyahu and this represents his "defense" if that is what it is for Israel. If we live through his "defense" of Israel I'll be one happy guy.

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RE: A Major Conventional War Against Iran Is an Impossibility
Pasta Lover  Wrote: (07-12-2019 12:06 AM)
Uh,,no. General Flynn spilled the beans about who ISIS is and who created and supported them. Yes the US was killing them too but for a different reason. The US was destroying a crime scene.

I don't remember Flynn saying anything about ISIS being an American proxy. Do you have a link to him saying that?

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RE: A Major Conventional War Against Iran Is an Impossibility
Old Whatshisname  Wrote: (07-12-2019 12:21 AM)
Pasta Lover  Wrote: (07-12-2019 12:06 AM)
Uh,,no. General Flynn spilled the beans about who ISIS is and who created and supported them. Yes the US was killing them too but for a different reason. The US was destroying a crime scene.

I don't remember Flynn saying anything about ISIS being an American proxy. Do you have a link to him saying that?

Actually, Flynn said a WHOLE lot more about US policy, but the only source I know is George Webb, I put up a thread on his investigative journalism and it's in the first video:

http://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-136302.html

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RE: A Major Conventional War Against Iran Is an Impossibility
If fossil fuels are so important to our prosperity we shouldn't leave its acquirement and distribution in the hands of a bunch greedy oil executives. The U.S. should just nationalize its oil fields and only sell the product in house @ cost, instead of to anybody in the world who can pay for it. We have plenty for our own use, nevertheless we should ration it until we can completely wean ourselves off it in order to fight AGW.

This will provide even less reason to be in the middle east. Resource wars are not for resources they are to establish who will profit from the sales of those resources.

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I dispute the thread title. Not only is it possible, it is becoming more and more likely. It just wouldn't be as easy as the armchair warhawks would like to believe.
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Post: #25
RE: A Major Conventional War Against Iran Is an Impossibility
Old Whatshisname  Wrote: (07-11-2019 11:26 PM)
Natura Naturans  Wrote: (07-11-2019 09:33 PM)
Wouldn't that be the best of all possible alternatives? I'll second you on that.

I agree wholeheartedly. Why that fat son-of-a-b¡tch squatting in the White House reneged on the Iran agreement (which, according to all sources, Iran was scrupulously holding to) is completely beyond my comprehension. Even our European allies think his approach was stupid, and I doubt if they're even going to pretend to uphold the US.

One guess is his principally motivated at proving he is better than Obama.
Another is to raise oil prices for his Saudi buddies.
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