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So...I cant have plastic grocery bags anymore?
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Post: #46
RE: So...I cant have plastic grocery bags anymore?
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-14-2019 05:50 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-14-2019 05:39 PM)
They stopped making them because people stopped buying them.

But, but, but according to you they were so great....great products stand the test of time and up to social pressure .....seems you're mistaken about the "Hummer"

No, I said they were more environmentally friendly that a Prius. I never said they were any good otherwise.
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Post: #47
RE: So...I cant have plastic grocery bags anymore?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-14-2019 05:47 PM)
Upside Down  Wrote: (07-14-2019 05:32 PM)
No, to me China is a 'them'. They have hot women. Just saying.

Maybe America can, and we do, set examples. I hope they follow.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsod...stic-waste


Try this: Write a list of every piece of plastic you touch in a day.

I did it. I stopped counting at 56 items.

About 'The Plastic Tide'

NPR is exploring one of the most important environmental issues of our time: plastic waste. Click here to read more about the topic.

Plastic is to our time what wood was for millennia. But unlike wood, most plastic doesn't go away. It ends up as trash in streets, rivers, lakes and oceans. It breaks down into microplastic — particles a tenth of an inch or smaller — and gets into our food and water. The health effects are largely unknown.

News stories feature dead whales and turtles with stomachs full of plastic. Activists built a huge floating net to collect it (which recently failed). Concerned citizens clean up beaches.

But that's not helping much. Eight million tons of plasti

And the vast majority of it comes from 10 rivers, none of which are in North American, hell none of them are in the western hemisphere.
Stop blaming the US for stupid sh*t the rest of the world does.

And that pollution number? Its per person. Large parts of the world are trying to become just like us and they are doing it with our tech and money thanks to globalism.
Just moving all that cheap plastic crap from China to the US pollutes more than all the cars in the US and we get the blame for that too. That's added to our pollution count.
PRESIDENT Trumps tariffs have slowed that down just a bit.

Idiot Trump.... I back his tariffs against China. He is still an Idiot.

It hurts our farmers. It sucks, but it needs to be done. Even an idiot can stumble into a good idea once and awhile.

America was the first polluter, and continues to be the worst polluter.

We built our civilization with Coal Power and Plastic.

How can we blame others for doing the same?

We need to innovate and change, and show others that they can do the same.

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Reality are the hearts and minds of those who try.
Everything that is not illusion is confusion.

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Post: #48
RE: So...I cant have plastic grocery bags anymore?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-14-2019 04:55 PM)
The key word here is buy, now you'll have to BUY garbage bags if you used old grocery bags for that. Now you'll have to BUY storage containers if you used old grocery bags for that. Waterproof shoes? Stick your feet in an old grocery bag before putting your shoes on.
Need to carry a few items somewhere? Old grocery bag.
Million a one uses and now you'll have to BUY something to do the same job.

Mini trash can liners too

and dust covers

and quickie rainhat

I never have enough of them and have family save their extras for me. People who shop more, have more of them. Mom used to have family save them for her too. The people who can't afford to shop ... need them and recycle (reuse/repurpose) them! The rich peeps just toss them in the garbage.
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Post: #49
RE: So...I cant have plastic grocery bags anymore?
I had heard this on NPR , it covers the many aspects of banning the supermarket bags and the replacements used saying from their studies that the environmental pluses that are claimed are not so.
One thing that is tangible is that the sale of the small white garbage bags that are used for waste baskets etc has sky-rocketed.
My town banned them last year.


Are Plastic Bag Bans Garbage?
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https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2019/...ns-garbage

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RE: So...I cant have plastic grocery bags anymore?
Upside Down  Wrote: (07-14-2019 05:35 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-14-2019 05:32 PM)
The only way you are a 2nd class citizen is if you put yourself there.
Maybe you are virtue signalling?

I am a powerless gangstalking victim. I am a Targetted Individual.

It doesn't matter how hard I work or how 'smart' I am. I will be in poverty.

From my point of view, everybody is selfish and idiotic.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdRHSuPxgXo

You need to see a shrink.
No one is out to get you, no one is targeting you.
It's all in your head.
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RE: So...I cant have plastic grocery bags anymore?
Isabella  Wrote: (07-14-2019 05:54 PM)
I had heard this on NPR , it covers the many aspects of banning the supermarket bags and the replacements used saying from their studies that the environmental pluses that are claimed are not so.
One thing that is tangible is that the sale of the small white garbage bags that are used for waste baskets etc has sky-rocketed.
My town banned them last year.


Are Plastic Bag Bans Garbage?
9:54

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April 9, 20198:04 AM ET




https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2019/...s-garbaget

i heard that podcast too. it says that we are buying plastic instead of getting it for free.

it is a complicated issue.

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Everything that is not illusion is confusion.

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RE: So...I cant have plastic grocery bags anymore?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-14-2019 05:54 PM)
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I am a powerless gangstalking victim. I am a Targetted Individual.

It doesn't matter how hard I work or how 'smart' I am. I will be in poverty.

From my point of view, everybody is selfish and idiotic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdRHSuPxgXo

You need to see a shrink.
No one is out to get you, no one is targeting you.
It's all in your head.

sure, i do. it is a 'catch 22'. i am insane and sane at the same time.

the body jumpers, gangstalkers, will not help me.

i tested it. they think that sympathy is in the dictionary between sh*t and syphilis.

Candle
Reality are the hearts and minds of those who try.
Everything that is not illusion is confusion.

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Post: #53
RE: So...I cant have plastic grocery bags anymore?
Upside Down  Wrote: (07-14-2019 05:53 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-14-2019 05:47 PM)
And the vast majority of it comes from 10 rivers, none of which are in North American, hell none of them are in the western hemisphere.
Stop blaming the US for stupid sh*t the rest of the world does.

And that pollution number? Its per person. Large parts of the world are trying to become just like us and they are doing it with our tech and money thanks to globalism.
Just moving all that cheap plastic crap from China to the US pollutes more than all the cars in the US and we get the blame for that too. That's added to our pollution count.
PRESIDENT Trumps tariffs have slowed that down just a bit.

Idiot Trump.... I back his tariffs against China. He is still an Idiot.

It hurts our farmers. It sucks, but it needs to be done. Even an idiot can stumble into a good idea once and awhile.

America was the first polluter, and continues to be the worst polluter.

We built our civilization with Coal Power and Plastic.

How can we blame others for doing the same?

We need to innovate and change, and show others that they can do the same.

Again, you got the TDS real bad.
Maybe it goes along with the thinking that someones out to get you?
See a shrink
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Post: #54
RE: So...I cant have plastic grocery bags anymore?
Upside Down  Wrote: (07-14-2019 06:01 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-14-2019 05:54 PM)
You need to see a shrink.
No one is out to get you, no one is targeting you.
It's all in your head.

sure, i do. it is a 'catch 22'. i am insane and sane at the same time.

the body jumpers, gangstalkers, will not help me.

i tested it. they think that sympathy is in the dictionary between sh*t and syphilis.

So what do you think you did to piss them off and attract their attention?
Obviously most of us manage just fine.
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RE: So...I cant have plastic grocery bags anymore?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-14-2019 06:01 PM)
Upside Down  Wrote: (07-14-2019 05:53 PM)
Idiot Trump.... I back his tariffs against China. He is still an Idiot.

It hurts our farmers. It sucks, but it needs to be done. Even an idiot can stumble into a good idea once and awhile.

America was the first polluter, and continues to be the worst polluter.

We built our civilization with Coal Power and Plastic.

How can we blame others for doing the same?

We need to innovate and change, and show others that they can do the same.

Again, you got the TDS real bad.
Maybe it goes along with the thinking that someones out to get you?
See a shrink

There is nothing wrong with me.

There is something wrong with everybody else.

Candle
Reality are the hearts and minds of those who try.
Everything that is not illusion is confusion.

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RE: So...I cant have plastic grocery bags anymore?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-14-2019 06:03 PM)
Upside Down  Wrote: (07-14-2019 06:01 PM)
sure, i do. it is a 'catch 22'. i am insane and sane at the same time.

the body jumpers, gangstalkers, will not help me.

i tested it. they think that sympathy is in the dictionary between sh*t and syphilis.

So what do you think you did to piss them off and attract their attention?
Obviously most of us manage just fine.

my dad told me I was in an "adventure". it is more like a nightmare.

when i sleep .. and dream .. i see those body jumpers yelling at me...

"Sit"!! "You can't".. bullshit.






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfbNC1vTZRg

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Everything that is not illusion is confusion.

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Post: #57
RE: So...I cant have plastic grocery bags anymore?
Upside Down  Wrote: (07-14-2019 05:59 PM)
Isabella  Wrote: (07-14-2019 05:54 PM)
I had heard this on NPR , it covers the many aspects of banning the supermarket bags and the replacements used saying from their studies that the environmental pluses that are claimed are not so.
One thing that is tangible is that the sale of the small white garbage bags that are used for waste baskets etc has sky-rocketed.
My town banned them last year.


Are Plastic Bag Bans Garbage?
9:54

Download

April 9, 20198:04 AM ET




https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2019/...s-garbaget

i heard that podcast too. it says that we are buying plastic instead of getting it for free.

it is a complicated issue.

Thanks for mentioning that, perfectly sums it up.

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RE: So...I cant have plastic grocery bags anymore?
Brought to you by your nanny state overlords.
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RE: So...I cant have plastic grocery bags anymore?
Isabella  Wrote: (07-14-2019 06:10 PM)
Upside Down  Wrote: (07-14-2019 05:59 PM)
i heard that podcast too. it says that we are buying plastic instead of getting it for free.

it is a complicated issue.

Thanks for mentioning that, perfectly sums it up.

Heartflowers

it is difficult to get my mind around it. you posted a great podcast. everyone should listen to it.

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RE: So...I cant have plastic grocery bags anymore?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-14-2019 06:18 PM)
Brought to you by your nanny state overlords.

i aint no million air/billion air.

i walk to work, and i carry my groceries home every week.

as a fact, i spend more on cat food then i do on my food.

we both eat good. i am thankful for that.

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