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I was 24 years old
Mr ifnoc
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Post: #46
RE: I was 24 years old
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PuddyCat  Wrote: (07-20-2019 01:42 AM)
Old Whatshisname  Wrote: (07-19-2019 11:41 PM)
Back then it was plug-wiring electro-mechanical accounting machines to 1401s to System/360's in 7090 emulation if any of that means anything (NOTE: it doesn't, anymore) LOL.

IBM 1401 COMPUTER & DATA PROCESSING FOR THE ROPER CORPORATION 72392

Dating to the 1960s, this IBM produced film tells the story of the George D. Roper Corporation, a manufacturer of gas and electric stoves, and how its business was transformed by high tech data management. The film features IBM's Clyde Janson, who helped install IBM's 402 and 602 computers at Roper in 1958. Also shown are O56 Verifiers and O52 Keypunch, 557 interpreter, 519 reproducer, O83 and O84 sorter, and O88 Collator, and the processing system. The computer being used is the 1401, including a CPU, typewriter, printer, keypunch, and two 7330 Magnetic Tape Drives and a 1405 Ramack. 450 programs generate 1000 reports monthly covering order billing, sales analysis, payroll, etc.

The IBM 1401 was a variable wordlength decimal computer that was announced by IBM on October 5, 1959. The first member of the highly successful IBM 1400 series, it was aimed at replacing electromechanical unit record equipment for processing data stored on punched cards. Over 12,000 units were produced and many were leased or resold in less developed countries after they were replaced with newer technology. The 1401 was withdrawn on February 8, 1971.

Commonly used by small businesses as their primary data processing machines, the 1401 was also frequently used as an off-line peripheral controller for mainframe computers. In such installations, with an IBM 7090 for example, the mainframe computers used only magnetic tape for input-output. It was the 1401 that transferred input data from slow peripherals (such as the IBM 1402 Card Read-Punch) to tape, and transferred output data from tape to the card punch, the IBM 1403 Printer, or other peripherals. This allowed the mainframe's throughput to not be limited by the speed of a card reader or printer.

Elements within IBM, notably John Haanstra, an executive in charge of 1401 deployment, supported its continuation in larger models for evolving needs (e.g., the IBM 1410) but the 1964 decision at the top to focus resources on the System/360 ended these efforts rather suddenly. Then, faced with the competitive threat of the Honeywell 200 and the 360's incompatibility with the 1401 design, IBM pioneered the use of microcode emulation, in the form of ROM, so that some System/360 models could run 1401 programs.

During the 1970s, IBM installed many 1401s in India and Pakistan where they were in use well into the 1980s. Some of today's Indian and Pakistani software entrepreneurs started on these 1401s. The first computer in Pakistan, for example, was a 1401 installed at Pakistan International Airlines.

Two 1401 systems have been restored to operating order at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, California, complete with a raised floor typical of the mainframe era (and modern data centers), used to hide cabling and distribute cooled air.

Roper Industries' historical roots reach back to its founder, George D. Roper, and the company he started in 1919, the Geo. D. Roper Corporation. Founded in Rockford, Illinois, as a manufacturer of gas stoves and gear pumps, Geo. D. Roper Corp. became best known for its production stoves, developing into a flourishing concern that eventually manufactured electric and gas kitchen ranges, power gardening tools, and a host of other home-related goods. In 1957, Florence Stove sold its manufacturing facility in Florence, Massachusetts, and transferred production to Illinois, then purchased the inventories of finished products, receivables, and all capital stock of Geo. D. Roper Corp. The entire new operation took the name Geo. D. Roper Corp. in 1958.

Sears not only was Geo. D. Roper Corp.'s largest customer but also owned nearly half of the Illinois-based appliance manufacturer. This relationship between Sears and Geo D. Roper Corp. was strengthened when Geo D. Roper Corp. merged with a wholly owned Sears subsidiary, Newark Ohio Co., in 1964.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOe6MHYtc3g

Ken Ross and Paul Laughton demo the IBM 1401

Ken Ross and Paul Laughton demo the IBM 1401 at the Computer History Museum in Mt. View, California




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQueCt114Gk

A little bit of history

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Post: #47
RE: I was 24 years old
I remember being in the living room during the first moon landing and the place was packed! Even then while watching I wondered why can't these guys put one foot in front of the other and walk like a normal human? There's no scientific reason they had to bounce around like little bunny rabbits, it was only for show, and looking back upon the show, the show was stupid. Also, there's no scientific reason they couldn't easily do a 3ft vertical jump, these guys were world class athletes and could easily get 2ft of air on earth. But on the moon where they and their gear combined weighed much less than they alone on earth, they couldn't jump 1ft off the surface. They filmed an astronaut doing a jump salute in front of the flag, he took 3 forceful steps planted then launched into a mighty vertical leap! At the apex of his jump, the point where he is no longer traveling upwards and has yet to reverse course (about 10 inches off the surface), the dirt on the top of his boots fell off all the way to the ground. Just another impossibility in a long list of impossibilities.

But the first landing is not what I wanted to type about, to be honest I don't remember what landing it was? I do remember I was in my mid teens and the only one in the living room, the room with the TV, Yes, I was the only one who gave a rat's ass about the latest Apollo Mission. I was sitting there glued to the TV getting antsy, seemed like the pair of boring experts in the newsroom were never going to shut up. Then finally Hoagland announces we have to break away NOW because they are getting ready to LAND!

Immediately the newsroom scene turns to a moonscape! Across the top of the screen you could see a lick of flame extending down a few inches which then immediately extinguished itself. This caused a perfectly round ring of dust to well up from the surface and to expand like ripple on a still pond, towards and away from the camera until it had disappeared out of sight. Then! Right on cue! A landing pad vertically traverses the screen and sets down just a few feet in front of the camera. Total time elapsed, 4 or 5 seconds! That 4 or 5 seconds is indelibly burned into my brain, if I ever get old timers, that's one memory that is not getting erased.

Right after that 4 or 5 seconds, I was on my feet, whooping it up, USA, USA! We did it again! Problem was, my brain was trying to give me a headache. Hey brain, I'm celebrating here leave me alone. Seems my brain wanted to know how the f*#k they got that stationary camera situated on the moon before they ever landed??? I just said shut-up brain you don't know what you're talking about. Many years had gone by and in light of all evidence against visiting the moon, being of sane brain I eventually came around to its way of thinking.

So I was there, I see how simple it is deny the truth and believe, you just got to ignore your brain. That's not everybody, some people try to sadly and badly explain the inexplicable or maybe some combination of the two. You could show them where the same moonscape replete with mountain ranges in the background were used for different landing missions and they get mad at you, probably their brain too when it starts talking at them.

So sorry Duncan, I experienced all the same emotions you listed in your post, but I have since been moved to rage, and long since, complacency of knowing the facts is what the facts is... We didn't go to the moon and I think your pride in that achievement is a little displaced. Peace.

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(This post was last modified: 07-20-2019 02:51 AM by Lord DunLOP.)
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Post: #48
RE: I was 24 years old
OP! Just because NASA successfully launched rockets DOES NOT mean that they went
anywhere with them - except shoot unmanned rockets into the sky to immediately fall back to Earth.
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Post: #49
RE: I was 24 years old
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-20-2019 02:42 AM)
OP! Just because NASA successfully launched rockets DOES NOT mean that they went
anywhere with them - except shoot unmanned rockets into the sky to immediately fall back to Earth.

And just because you watched some loon on a youtube vid say we didn't go ...doesn't mean we didn't .
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Post: #50
RE: I was 24 years old
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-20-2019 01:43 AM)
Old Whatshisname  Wrote: (07-20-2019 01:28 AM)
When I lived back in AZ, we were only about a hundred miles from the famous (or infamous) Biosphere 2. It had such great potential, and you're right; we should be putting more money into things like that.

Didn't one or two "participants" go kinda "nuts"

Not exactly. First, the whole Biosphere 2 thing was funded by a couple of private individuals who were going to set up a completely self-contained ecosystem and people would be locked in and live in it for a year or two. However, they were a little vague as to their methodology and the establishment (Universities, etc.) didn't consider it to be all that "scientifically rigorous".

But the founders pressed on regardless. the chosen folks were presented to the public as sort of like astronauts, with matching uniforms, etc. Not too many of them were trained in all aspects of the project (Translation: they didn't have 'respectable' degrees).

Anyway, not surprisingly, the ecosystem broke down. They should've realized (and so should have everyone else) that it takes a couple thousand years to set up a self-containing ecology, because lots of the biota are going to die off and be replaced by other biota that weren't planned for!

So it was with the ants. No one had thought how to naturally control them and they built up to the point where they were eating all the food crops. On top of that, one of the "bio-nauts" was injured pretty badly (sliced up his hand, IIRC) and they snuck him out to the doctor, which of course got out, which pretty much tossed the experiment (and their reputation) out the window.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose!
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Post: #51
RE: I was 24 years old
Lord DunLOP  Wrote: (07-20-2019 02:33 AM)
We didn't go to the moon and I think your pride in that achievement is a little displaced. Peace.

One of the great things about our country is that we're all entitled to our own opinions, but not to our own facts.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose!
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Post: #52
RE: I was 24 years old
Old Whatshisname  Wrote: (07-20-2019 02:54 AM)
Lord DunLOP  Wrote: (07-20-2019 02:33 AM)
We didn't go to the moon and I think your pride in that achievement is a little displaced. Peace.

One of the great things about our country is that we're all entitled to our own opinions, but not to our own facts.

True that! But I didn't mention anything that wasn't the God's honest fact.

It's the Environment, stupid.
______________________________________

The finish-line of the Rat Race lays in
Oblivion.
______________________________________

I Stink Therefore I Am.

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Post: #53
RE: I was 24 years old
Lord DunLOP  Wrote: (07-20-2019 02:59 AM)
Old Whatshisname  Wrote: (07-20-2019 02:54 AM)
One of the great things about our country is that we're all entitled to our own opinions, but not to our own facts.

True that! But I didn't mention anything that wasn't the God's honest fact.

I want to hear it from God itself.
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Post: #54
RE: I was 24 years old
I think the U.S. space program kept going after Apollo but it went underground. I think it went underground because of what they found on the moon and Mars. A past ancient civilization.

I think the rich and powerful plus the military control it for their own benefit.

If your average man ever gets to go up there then all the land will already be claimed by the rich and connected ass holes.

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Post: #55
RE: I was 24 years old
LoP Guest  Wrote: (07-20-2019 03:13 AM)
I think the U.S. space program kept going after Apollo but it went underground. I think it went underground because of what they found on the moon and Mars. A past ancient civilization.

I think the rich and powerful plus the military control it for their own benefit.

If your average man ever gets to go up there then all the land will already be claimed by the rich and connected ass holes.

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This is an actual photo from Apollo 15. You would think something like this would be worth looking into
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Post: #56
RE: I was 24 years old
Old Whatshisname  Wrote: (07-20-2019 02:54 AM)
Lord DunLOP  Wrote: (07-20-2019 02:33 AM)
We didn't go to the moon and I think your pride in that achievement is a little displaced. Peace.

One of the great things about our country is that we're all entitled to our own opinions, but not to our own facts.

"we didn't go to the moon."
What a friggin IDIOT!
I shall rename you Sir Duncealot!Bump
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Post: #57
RE: I was 24 years old
LOP and its crew are as fake as the astronauts.
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Post: #58
RE: I was 24 years old
Lord DunLOP  Wrote: (07-20-2019 02:33 AM)
I remember being in the living room during the first moon landing and the place was packed! Even then while watching I wondered why can't these guys put one foot in front of the other and walk like a normal human? There's no scientific reason they had to bounce around like little bunny rabbits, it was only for show, and looking back upon the show, the show was stupid. Also, there's no scientific reason they couldn't easily do a 3ft vertical jump, these guys were world class athletes and could easily get 2ft of air on earth. But on the moon where they and their gear combined weighed much less than they alone on earth, they couldn't jump 1ft off the surface. They filmed an astronaut doing a jump salute in front of the flag, he took 3 forceful steps planted then launched into a mighty vertical leap! At the apex of his jump, the point where he is no longer traveling upwards and has yet to reverse course (about 10 inches off the surface), the dirt on the top of his boots fell off all the way to the ground. Just another impossibility in a long list of impossibilities.

But the first landing is not what I wanted to type about, to be honest I don't remember what landing it was? I do remember I was in my mid teens and the only one in the living room, the room with the TV, Yes, I was the only one who gave a rat's ass about the latest Apollo Mission. I was sitting there glued to the TV getting antsy, seemed like the pair of boring experts in the newsroom were never going to shut up. Then finally Hoagland announces we have to break away NOW because they are getting ready to LAND!

Immediately the newsroom scene turns to a moonscape! Across the top of the screen you could see a lick of flame extending down a few inches which then immediately extinguished itself. This caused a perfectly round ring of dust to well up from the surface and to expand like ripple on a still pond, towards and away from the camera until it had disappeared out of sight. Then! Right on cue! A landing pad vertically traverses the screen and sets down just a few feet in front of the camera. Total time elapsed, 4 or 5 seconds! That 4 or 5 seconds is indelibly burned into my brain, if I ever get old timers, that's one memory that is not getting erased.

Right after that 4 or 5 seconds, I was on my feet, whooping it up, USA, USA! We did it again! Problem was, my brain was trying to give me a headache. Hey brain, I'm celebrating here leave me alone. Seems my brain wanted to know how the f*#k they got that stationary camera situated on the moon before they ever landed??? I just said shut-up brain you don't know what you're talking about. Many years had gone by and in light of all evidence against visiting the moon, being of sane brain I eventually came around to its way of thinking.

So I was there, I see how simple it is deny the truth and believe, you just got to ignore your brain. That's not everybody, some people try to sadly and badly explain the inexplicable or maybe some combination of the two. You could show them where the same moonscape replete with mountain ranges in the background were used for different landing missions and they get mad at you, probably their brain too when it starts talking at them.

So sorry Duncan, I experienced all the same emotions you listed in your post, but I have since been moved to rage, and long since, complacency of knowing the facts is what the facts is... We didn't go to the moon and I think your pride in that achievement is a little displaced. Peace.

Post of the day.
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Post: #59
RE: I was 24 years old
Bs Buster  Wrote: (07-20-2019 04:24 AM)
LOP and its crew are as fake as the astronauts.

Post of the day.
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Post: #60
RE: I was 24 years old
Duncan has spoken honestly and factually.
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