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GHISLAINE MAXWELL : Before - During - After - Epstein
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Interesting thread with some good research work.

I wonder if Ghislaine will survive this.

Anon

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He Man  Wrote: (08-12-2019 08:34 PM)
Here is an interesting story of a Victorian era journalist who wrote about women being involved in pedophilia procurement:

The crazy story behind the journalist who exposed the Jeffrey Epsteins of Victorian London

"Lured by the promise of a better life
On July 6, 1885, the first article in Stead’s exposé was published. Stead revealed how thousands of girls, most of whom were between 13 and 15 years old, were bought for sex by prominent London men, including a “well-known member of Parliament,” a cabinet minister, a doctor and a clergyman who obtained a 12-year old virgin for £20.

As soon as it hit London’s newsstands, the story went viral. Stead already had a reputation as a fearless editor who advocated “Government by Journalism” and didn’t shy from sensationalism. The Gazette’s reporting was front-page news in the U.S., with The New York Times covering the scandal and the reaction by English authorities.

Those who could get their hands on a copy learned about how women recruited young girls, and how the authorities who knew about it failed to intervene.Instead of working to swiftly shut down the illicit sex trade and identify those involved, London’s city solicitor ordered police to seize copies of the Gazette and to arrest vendors for selling copies of the paper. Despite – or because of – the attempted censorship, copies sold well above their cover price. Thousands waited outside newspaper offices for their chance to buy each new installment.

Stead interviewed women who explained how they enticed girls to enter the homes of wealthy men with promises of meals, money and jobs. Looking out for “pretty girls who are poor,” brothel keepers and professional procurers recruited orphans, shop girls, servants and nursemaids to “visit” gentlemen."

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/08/the-cra...an-london/


Wow! yet not surprising and laurels to Stead, will look him up later.

Even the young females who were legally employed in wealthy homes were subject to sexual abuse/rape/pregnancy by the master of the house and his sons.



No truer words spoken...thankfully it's slowly changing .

“When a woman is outraged,” he wrote, “her sworn testimony weighs nothing against the lightest word of the man who perpetrated the crime.”

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LoP Guest  Wrote: (08-12-2019 05:57 PM)
Very fascinating reading. What a horrid family, although I feel bad for the mother. She was a French scholar and seemingly nice person. Can't imagine how she could fall in love with that fraudster, marry him and have 9 kids with him. Ghislaine has to be the worst of the bunch, taking after dear ol' dad. The apple didn't fall far from that tree….

He named his publishing company Pergamon Press. Pergamon is a biblical name and means "seat of satan". Fits in perfectly with that family.

That is some heavy sh*t...thanks!
She didn't just fall far from the tree she planted her own evil orchard.
Will look to see if there's anything on Maxwell's reasoning for naming his publishing company Pergamon?
Just read somewhere that the mother stayed true to him till the end.



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Pergamon: The Throne and City of Satan

by Moe | History of the Brotherhood, Meaning of Symbols, Mystical Christianity, Satanism

Revelation 2:12 “Pergamos. Where Satan’s throne is.”Throne of satan

In the ancient Cretan city of Pergamon (Pergamum) is said to be the City and Throne of Satan, and home to one of the seven churches written about by Saint John in the Book of Revelation. It was the original uncorrupted church of Christ that later became the seat of Antichrist or Throne of Satan."


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https://gnosticwarrior.com/pergamon.html

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Sultan of Wings  Wrote: (08-12-2019 09:06 PM)
Interesting thread with some good research work.

I wonder if Ghislaine will survive this.

Anon

The last I read there's been no sightings/photos anything about her out and about for quite awhile.

Not too long ago her lawyer supposedly told a judge that he didn't know where she was residing, she sold her NYC residence in 2015 for like 15 million.

She did hit the news right after Epstein's recent arrest for closing down her environmental/oceans non-profit

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Sultan of Wings  Wrote: (08-12-2019 09:06 PM)
Interesting thread with some good research work.

I wonder if Ghislaine will survive this.

Anon

Oh, when she recently closed down her non-profit the consensus here was she already was or on her way to a country with no extradition treaty with the US.

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Isabella  Wrote: (08-12-2019 09:31 PM)
Sultan of Wings  Wrote: (08-12-2019 09:06 PM)
Interesting thread with some good research work.

I wonder if Ghislaine will survive this.

Anon

Oh, when she recently closed down her non-profit the consensus here was she already was or on her way to a country with no extradition treaty with the US.

I wonder if she will simply disappear, and never be found. Scream1

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LoP Guest  Wrote: (08-12-2019 03:44 PM)
I have this feeling that this isn't the end of the story and may be just the start.

"Jeffrey Epstein kept ‘meticulously detailed’ diaries which could come back to haunt his powerful pals including Prince Andrew"


Sources revealed Epstein kept a diary detailing his friendships with powerful associates – including Andrew and socialite Ghislaine Maxwell – as an “insurance policy”.

Epstein’s diary will be a source of great anxiety to her and the other senior royals.

Its existence emerged as lawyers for the victims look to obtain a statement from the Prince as part of ongoing investigations by various US law enforcement authorities.

Despite Epstein’s death, government prosecutors have vowed to continue their enquiries, indicating they will pursue all those involved in the billionaire’s offending.

US Attorney Geoffrey Berman said: “To those brave young women who have already come forward and to the many others who have yet to do so, let me reiterate that we remain committed to standing for you.”

And yesterday, lawyer Jack Scarola, who represents scores of victims, told the Mirror his clients “will not rest” in their fight for justice.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news...n-18909521

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Jack Scarola is one sharp-sharp-brilliant lawyer who took one of Alan Dershwitz's depositions and destroyed him..laughed at him too.

So Ghis's mother was alive for Epstein's Sweetheart Deal.
For her sake I hope she had dementia..chuckle
From this article, if it's true that Ghis attended,would make her still in contact with her mother and siblings after Epsteins first arrest /deal and her relationship with him.


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"Cursed inheritance: Robert Maxwell's children cannot escape his poisonous legacy as his daughter gets embroiled in the Prince Andrew scandal


By Zoe Brennan for the Daily Mail
Updated: 17:19 EDT, 11 March 2011


"When 200 guests gather for her 90th birthday party tomorrow, Elisabeth Maxwell — widow of disgraced newspaper publisher Robert Maxwell — could be forgiven for casting an eye around the London penthouse where it is being held and wondering just what has happened to her once-illustrious family.

Her daughter Ghislaine will be there, perhaps all too glad to escape America, where she has been in the eye of the storm that threatens to engulf Prince Andrew. The New York-based socialite is accused of recruiting under-age girls for convicted paedophile billionaire Jeffrey Epstein — a friend she shares with the Prince. She has denied the claims.

[/b]Ghislaine will be joined at the party by her six siblings, plus many of Britain’s Left-wing establishment luvvies.


Invitees include Lord Mandelson (who first suggested Andrew should be appointed as Britain’s trade envoy, and who was sufficiently close to Epstein to have been listed in the American’s little black book of contacts) and the Kinnocks.

Other guests will include representatives from Elisabeth Maxwell’s Holocaust education project, Remembering For The Future."


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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/artic...andal.html

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Some real heavy stuff below:

The mysterious Maxwells

The Maxwell family has become a source of renewed media interest following Jeffrey Epstein’s arrest, as Ghislaine Maxwell, long described in the media as a British “socialite,” was publicly cited as Epstein’s long-time “on and off” girlfriend, and Epstein’s victims, as well as former wives of Epstein’s friends, have claimed that she was Epstein’s “pimp” and procured underage girls for his sexual blackmail operation. Ghislaine Maxwell is also alleged to have engaged in the rape of the girls she procured for Epstein and to have used them to produce child pornography.

Ghislaine was the favorite and youngest daughter of media mogul Robert Maxwell. Maxwell, born Jan Ludvick Hoch, had joined the British Army in World War II. Afterwards, according to authors John Loftus and Mark Aarons, he greatly influenced the Czechoslovakian government’s decision to arm Zionist paramilitaries during the 1948 war that resulted in Israel’s creation as a state, and Maxwell himself was also involved in the smuggling of aircraft parts to Israel.

Around this time, Maxwell was approached by British intelligence outfit MI6 and offered a position that Maxwell ultimately declined. MI6 then classified him as “Zionist — loyal only to Israel” and made him a person of interest. He later became an agent of the Mossad, according to several books including Seymour Hersh’s The Samson Option: Israel’s Nuclear Arsenal and American Foreign Policy, and Robert Maxwell: Israel’s Superspy by Gordon Thomas and Martin Dillon.

According to Victor Ostrovsky, a former Mossad case officer:
Mossad was financing many of its operations in Europe from money stolen from Maxwell’s newspaper pension fund. They got their hands on the funds almost as soon as Maxwell made the purchase of the Mirror Newspaper Group with money lent to him by Mossad.”


In exchange for his services, the Mossad helped Maxwell satisfy his sexual appetite during his visits to Israel, providing him with prostitutes, “the service maintained for blackmail purposes.” It was later revealed that the hotel in which he stayed in Israel was bugged with cameras, allowing the Mossad to acquire “a small library of video footage of Maxwell in sexually compromising positions.” As with the CIA, the Mossad’s use of blackmail against both friend and foe is well-documented and known to be extensive.

Much more at link:


https://www.mintpressnews.com/mega-group...al/261172/
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"As for the two eldest Maxwell children, Philip and Anne, they both live quietly in North London. Philip won a scholarship to Balliol College, Oxford, at 16, but moved to Argentina to get ‘as far away from my father as possible’. He married an Argentinian but they divorced.

Anne had been a huge disappointment to her demanding father. After Oxford University, she became a Montessori teacher. Today, she is a hypnotist in Surrey and is married to an osteopath. They have a teenage daughter.

So, the Maxwell story is one of a series of family breakdowns, with myriad financial and personal troubles. As hard as the seven children have tried, they have struggled to escape their father’s dark legacy.

In a rare interview some years ago, Christine gave a fascinating insight into what it was like to have been one of Maxwell’s children. She told of the ritual humiliation he visited on his children at Sunday lunch, which was ‘torture’. ‘He was dreadful to us, in front of friends, boyfriends — it was unbearable. Everything was black and white for him: you were with him or against him.’

She believes their lives were altered irrevocably by the premature deaths of their two siblings: ‘Nothing could be like before. My parents were so afraid for us that we could not do anything. I felt like I was in a prison.’

When, at the age of 20, she told her father that she wanted to study in California, he flew into a rage. But she bravely defied him, and said it was best decision of her life.

Significantly, she blames her father’s overbearing personality on his childhood. ‘I am the daughter of a Holocaust survivor. His whole family disappeared into the camps. We never talked about it. But how could we live a normal life after that?’

Indeed, that is a question the Maxwell clan have been struggling to answer for almost 20 years. Tomorrow’s celebration of their matriarch’s milestone birthday will be just another reminder of how they can never escape Robert Maxwell’s legacy of scandal and debt."

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He Man  Wrote: (08-12-2019 09:47 PM)
Isabella  Wrote: (08-12-2019 09:31 PM)
Oh, when she recently closed down her non-profit the consensus here was she already was or on her way to a country with no extradition treaty with the US.

I wonder if she will simply disappear, and never be found. Scream1

I would think that after Epsteins recent arrest that would be her plan....Epstein had warnings about being investigated again and stayed and the rest is history.chuckle

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Big Epstein Question: Where Is Ghislaine?

Socialite and longtime companion is keeping a low profile


By John Johnson, Newser Staff
Posted Aug 12, 2019 2:22 PM CDT

"The death of Jeffrey Epstein has put a renewed focus on Ghislaine Maxwell, the socialite who was a regular presence by Epstein's side for years. Maxwell, though, has been accused of being far more than a party planner or assistant—many of the girls who have accused Epstein of sexual abuse say Maxwell was the point person who coordinated their visits. Now a key question is whether prosecutors will go after her as part of the Epstein investigation. "Any co-conspirators should not rest easy," Attorney General William Barr said Monday of the sex-trafficking investigation, reports the AP. He did not mention any names. Details and developments on Maxwell:

Where is she? Unknown, but believed to be living abroad, reports the Washington Post. The 57-year-old had a townhouse in Manhattan but sold it in 2016. Her lawyers told a judge the following year she was in London but did not have a fixed address. "Authorities have had trouble locating her," per the Post, and nobody expects her to return to the US on her own.

No charges: Maxwell has not been charged with anything, and she has adamantly denied accusations that have surfaced against her, notably in a since-settled defamation suit filed by Epstein accuser Virginia Roberts Giuffre. "Virginia is an absolute liar and everything she has said is a lie," Maxwell said in that deposition. (A trove of court documents about Epstein, including from that defamation case, was released Friday.)

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https://www.newser.com/story/279024/big-...laine.html

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Jeff Jarvis

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I do hope reporters are asking: Where is Ghislaine Maxwell? https://twitter.com/jeffjarvis/status/11...5967512576
Jeff Jarvis

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Ghislaine Maxwell's father and partner both escaped prosecution and consequence this way.




https://www.newsweek.com/ghislaine-maxwe...de-1453654

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CRIME 08/11/2019 09:57 pm ET Updated 7 hours ago

There Are ‘Thousands And Thousands’ Of Other Documents On Jeffrey Epstein Case: Journalist
Troves of evidence and testimony spell trouble for possible Epstein co-conspirators, warns Miami Herald reporter Julie K. Brown.

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"Despite the apparent suicide of wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein, there are “thousands and thousands” of other documents linked to his sex trafficking case and “so many threads of information” that could implicate co-conspirators, a Miami Herald investigative reporter said Sunday on MSNBC.

Journalist Julie K. Brown said she’s hopeful victims will get justice as cases are pursued against possible co-conspirators. Brown has been credited with helping to instigate a new investigation of Epstein in the wake of his shockingly light 13-month sentence in Florida in 2008 after he pleaded guilty to felony solicitation of prostitution involving a minor. He was allowed to continue commuting to work while he served his time. He was charged last month in Manhattan with sex trafficking underage girls.

“I sense that U.S. Attorney Geoffrey Berman in New York is pretty resolute in his effort to find justice for these victims, and certainly with all the documents that were released the other day, there’s a lot of angles for him to pursue,” said Brown.

"There is so much information in those documents, and we have thousands and thousands of more documents that are probably going to be released,” she told MSNBC news host Morgan Radford. “There are so many threads of information and evidence and testimony and witnesses that are contained in those documents that he has a lot to work with there.”

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They better put her on Suicide Watch for her protection. doomed
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Villifana should have been fired and prosecuted when her emails were unsealed and all others, police, prosecutors and Epstein's legal team should have been investigated back then as it was blatantly clear that the most powerful ones acted in cahoots to get Epstein off federal charges and a possible 45 yrs in jail from the squashed( Acosta) 53 page federal indictment.


Palm Beach Assistant State Attorney Marie Villifana who resigned last week had her court sealed emails with Epstein's lawyer Lebowitz unsealed in 2015.

She tells him that she(they?) don't want the judge to know the names of those who could have been charged and weren't.

For starters that would be any man/women who engaged in sex-massages/acts with the under-age girls .

Villifana also mentions the co-conspirators who would be Maxwell and the other females who also recruited them for Epstein.

Then we have all those who knew about Epstein/Maxwell's sex trafficking these girls and were complicit and never went to the authorities.

Barr (if he's serious) can not just go after the co-conspirators he needs to charge those who weren't charged and should have been and as far as those being "complicit" that could end up being a moral failing and may not be a legal one, even though it's under-age girls?

The prosecutors in Epstein's sweetheart deal obviously had what they believed to be enough evidence to charge many people and didn't.



AG William Barr to Jeffrey Epstein’s Possible Co-Conspirators: We’re Still Coming for You
[The Daily Beast]

"U.S. Attorney General William Barr on Monday warned that Jeffrey Epstein’s alleged accomplices “should not rest easy” just because the accused sex trafficker will never see his day in court.

“Let me assure you that case will continue on against anyone who was complicit with Epstein," Barr said during his keynote address Monday at the National Fraternal Order of Police’s biennial conference in New Orleans. “Any co-conspirators should not rest easy. Victims deserve justice and will get it.”

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