RE: Mr. Epstein gets a bad rep. The guy was just having fun.
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Man From OrionWrote: (08-13-2019 09:30 PM)
Eustace MuffinsWrote: (08-13-2019 09:27 PM)
This is your thread and I am calling you out as a obvious pedo-lover for having sympathy and poking holes in the Epstein lawsuit,, you better man the f*#k up and answer your pathetic attempts to smear a president you just don't like.
You're an idiot who has been answered several times and every time you're the one that doesn't like the answer so you keep twisting this reality to a point it's unrecognizable to normal people.
Fhuck yourself.
Then rebut post #40, Rebut the VOX liberal article. Youre officially debunked , now go cry to the mods.
Man From Orion Registered User User ID: 380384 08-13-2019 09:33 PM
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RE: Mr. Epstein gets a bad rep. The guy was just having fun.
Eustace MuffinsWrote: (08-13-2019 09:31 PM)
Man From OrionWrote: (08-13-2019 09:29 PM)
Like I said Mr. Potato, you're just a muppet that only looks at one side.
Donald Trump was accused of raping a 13yr old little girl and due to death threats had to drop the case.
Of course you accept it as that because your messiah is the greatest man ever.
You're scared of the reality you try to deflect so much.
Now why should I accept anything from you if you can't accept anything from me in the spirit of honest debate on the item?
Fhuck yourself Potato.
Hope that works as an answer.
Fhuck yourself while listening to Trump talk and imagine you're on your knees blessing his pipe to completion than wipe the juices off your chin and swallow it.
:)
Post#40 debunks your entire premise, funny how you skipped it.
Nothing you have stated has debunked anything.
Stating something is debunked just doesn't make it so.
Just like you stating the 13yr old girl Trump raped isn't real - doesn't make it true.
Man From Orion Registered User User ID: 380384 08-13-2019 09:33 PM
Posts: 1,664
RE: Mr. Epstein gets a bad rep. The guy was just having fun.
Eustace MuffinsWrote: (08-13-2019 09:32 PM)
Man From OrionWrote: (08-13-2019 09:30 PM)
You're an idiot who has been answered several times and every time you're the one that doesn't like the answer so you keep twisting this reality to a point it's unrecognizable to normal people.
Fhuck yourself.
Then rebut post #40, Rebut the VOX liberal article. Youre officially debunked , now go cry to the mods.
RE: Mr. Epstein gets a bad rep. The guy was just having fun.
Man From OrionWrote: (08-13-2019 09:33 PM)
Eustace MuffinsWrote: (08-13-2019 09:31 PM)
Post#40 debunks your entire premise, funny how you skipped it.
Nothing you have stated has debunked anything.
Stating something is debunked just doesn't make it so.
Just like you stating the 13yr old girl Trump raped isn't real - doesn't make it true.
Youre own people(VOX) don't believe the girl is real. Ya cant threaten a person who doesn't exist ya dolt f*cking retard.
Those shady characters — a former reality TV producer who calls himself “Al Taylor” and a “Never Trump” conservative activist named Steve Baer — had been mostly unsuccessful in getting the media to bite. There are a few very good reasons for that, which the Huffington Post’s Ryan Grim succinctly summed up: Taylor and Baer have been really sketchy about the whole thing, and since the accuser is anonymous, journalists can’t do anything to verify her claims. The only journalist who has actually interviewed Johnson, Emily Shugerman at Revelist, came away confused and even doubting whether Johnson really exists.
Since a tape of Trump bragging about sexual assault came out in early October, a dozen named women have come forward with credible, similar-sounding allegations of Trump forcibly kissing or groping them in exactly the way he described on that tape. Johnson’s case was an outlier, with far more salacious allegations from a source that seems far less credible.
But Trump was still scheduled to answer those allegations in front of a judge on December 16. Now that’s not going to happen. And we may never learn anything more about the matter, unless and until Johnson decides to break her silence.
RE: Mr. Epstein gets a bad rep. The guy was just having fun.
An earlier lawsuit Johnson filed against Trump was somewhat fishy
The lawsuit Johnson filed in New York was actually her second attempt to sue Trump and Epstein. The first was in California in April of this year, a claim Johnson filed herself that got thrown out on technical grounds — she’d filed a civil rights suit, but failed to actually state an applicable civil rights claim.
There were a couple of odd things about that lawsuit. The address listed on court documents as Johnson’s was actually a foreclosed, abandoned home, and the phone number was disconnected. Maybe Johnson was just using a fake address because she was homeless; she was, after all, also described as being indigent. But it’s fishy.
The lawsuit also described details that were so lurid — “almost cinematic in their depravity,” as Jezebel’s Anna Merlan put it — that they’re almost hard to believe. Some of those details were omitted from the second lawsuit, the New York Daily News reported:
Gone from the new lawsuit is an allegation that Trump threw money at the plaintiff for an abortion when she expressed fear about getting pregnant after being raped. Gone, too, is the allegation that Trump called co-defendant and accused pedophile and sex party host Jeffrey Epstein a “Jew bastard,” and her request for $100 million in damages
RE: Mr. Epstein gets a bad rep. The guy was just having fun.
This spring, a man called “Al Taylor” sent a video of a woman with a blurred face and blonde wig (allegedly Johnson) recounting the allegations against Trump to news outlets, saying he wanted $1 million for it. Taylor, the Guardian reported, was actually Norm Lubow, a former producer on the Jerry Springer show who has a history of using fake names and disguises to make juicy, false claims about celebrities.
The lawsuit was promoted to the media by an anti-Trump, anti-abortion activist named Steve Baer, a conservative activist and donor with a very influential email list that he uses to relentlessly spam reporters and conservative power players. Baer, too, has a history of passing around “whoa if true” rumors: Last year, he was a key figure in spreading the notion that US Rep. Kevin McCarthy was having an extramarital affair with a woman in Congress when McCarthy was a candidate to become speaker of the House
RE: Mr. Epstein gets a bad rep. The guy was just having fun.
Baer told Emily Shugerman at Revelist that Taylor met Johnson at a party and asked her if she had any good celebrity gossip. When she talked about her assault, Taylor apparently didn’t want to touch the story at first, but then circled back with Johnson about it once Trump’s campaign started picking up steam.
To hear journalists who interacted with them tell it, Baer and Taylor come off as obnoxiously persistent in pushing the story, and infuriatingly evasive when asked for interviews with Johnson. Jezebel’s Anna Merlan published a long account of their bizarre antics.
RE: Mr. Epstein gets a bad rep. The guy was just having fun.
Taylor in particular comes across as volatile and a little scary; Merlan reported that Taylor told her to “*****” when she confronted him about his identity, and that he made harassing phone calls to other journalists. He also appears to have sent at least a few text messages and emails while posing as Katie Johnson — or at least messages that Meagher, Johnson’s attorney, denies that Johnson sent.
The Daily Beast’s Brandy Zadrozny also has a colorful story about the time Baer and Johnson had an epic public meltdown at each other — over Baer’s email list, cc’ing journalists all the way.
In short, these guys are a trainwreck. But they’ve basically been the public face of Katie Johnson for the last year.
Again, Revelist’s Emily Shugerman is the only journalist who has managed to interview Johnson. She says Meagher offered her the chance to interview Johnson over FaceTime from his office in Princeton, New Jersey. But Johnson apparently decided she didn’t want to do it after all, and the interview was canceled.
RE: Mr. Epstein gets a bad rep. The guy was just having fun.
Three days later, close to midnight, Shugerman finally talked to Johnson over the phone in a conference call with Meagher. There were some odd things about that call, Shugerman writes:
Johnson's voice sounded muffled and far away when she answered — she said she was speaking softly because she didn’t want anyone to overhear her. Several times she paused mid-sentence, and I could hear her moving something.
"She has dogs," Meagher explained.
Shugerman says Johnson was “vague” in her descriptions of Epstein’s parties and how many people were there, and wouldn’t go into details about what she was asked to do. Some of the details she did give were consistent with descriptions of Epstein and his house Vicky Ward listed in a 2003 Vanity Fair profile — which could either lend credence to Johnson’s story, or suggest that “Johnson” just read the Vanity Fair story as research.
RE: Mr. Epstein gets a bad rep. The guy was just having fun.
Most troublingly, a detective who worked with Epstein’s victims called into question a key part of Johnson’s story:
Hearing her answers that night, I had to remind myself that PTSD from sexual trauma is known to damage victims' memories — and that the parties she recalled allegedly happened more than two decades ago. But Mike Fisten, a retired Miami-Dade detective who conducted research for several of Epstein's victims, denied such parties ever even took place.
"Jeffery never had parties like described in their complaint," Fisten told me. "Jeffery had sex parties, for sure, with two or three girls … but never with other guys."
There were men in attendance at Epstein’s more large, lavish affairs, Fisten said, but nothing illicit ever happened at such events.
Meagher, Shugerman wrote, is eager to put the focus back on the alleged rape of a 13-year-old instead of focusing on the antics of Taylor and Baer. Anything else, Meagher told Shugerman, is "allowing the sins of others to be visited upon my client."
Man From Orion Registered User User ID: 380384 08-13-2019 09:52 PM
Posts: 1,664
RE: Mr. Epstein gets a bad rep. The guy was just having fun.
Eustace MuffinsWrote: (08-13-2019 09:48 PM)
Yea , that's what I thought, you better beg the mods to close this shitstain thread.
VOX are not my people.
A credible attorney was handling the case.
The received death threats.
You have veered so far from the OP of this post that it's laughable.
Your reading comprehension is nil.
You shout "fake news" as a winning argument and debate closer.
Potato - you're genuinely unhinged.
In the course of our conversations within the last 2 days I offered you various scenario and parallel thinking only without "your side" as the victor.
Your main problem is that you think I have "a side" when it comes to seeing pedophiles pay for the crimes.
You're an idiot, genuinely an idiot.
The type of idiot that thinks talking louder makes them right.
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