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Plastic Fibers Raining Down In Colorado
Luvapottamus
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I call horse sh*t on this sustainability coordinator.

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If that sustainability coordinator wanted a place to start to look for the origins, tell her to just look up at the sky.

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They're burning drugs too.

lol

Probably is a good way to discombobulate effexor and other defective psych drugs.

Careful with that nitroglycerin!

chuckle

What happens to the lithium?

chuckle

Better than dumping it in the river I guess. Slower....

But there's another thing at work here.

"Sustainable" is Agenda 21 newspeak.
"Stakeholders" is the other biggie.

The way agenda 21 works is your local COG hires Delphi Technique consensus builders to push whatever the local good old boys club(the stakeholders) thinks(without any expertise or competence) will make your town seem cleaner and more walkable and will lure the kids back who left for better pastures in places that do it for real.

Then they herd citizens into an arena pretending they want your input, then they write a "citizens initiative" that only has the stuff the Good Old Boys wanted before the fake meeting.

Then they use your taxes to buy their stuff, and then they give themselves awards.

The United Nations had sincere good intentions when they created this scam, but they had no way of knowing how it would play out in an OIL CAPITAL.

lol

Our Vision initiative had corporate welfare for Boeing in it.

chuckle

What did your Vision or Envision "grass roots initiative" have in it?



Popcorn

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Post: #47
RE: Plastic Fibers Raining Down In Colorado
PLANET MONEY
Episode 925: A Mob Boss, A Garbage Boat and Why We Recycle

In the 1980s, the mafia controlled garbage in New York. So when an Alabama businessman named Lowell Harrelson wanted to turn trash into energy, he found a mob boss. Bought 3,186 tons of garbage, put it on a big ship, and set sail to find a landfill to work with.....

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/09/739893511...we-recycle

Audio at link^^^^^

We were NEVER short on landfill space!

This event started that idiocy.

You see pictures of third world countries that heap trash inside the city and homeless people are picking through it.....

They aren't running out of space, their GOVERNMENT SUCKS.

chuckle

I don't want to bury a bunch of useless planned obsolescence CRAP.

But the solution isn't to BURN IT!

Stop making it.

Redesign it to WORK, to LAST, and to be remanufactured and recycled.

Or composted.

Ripped hemp grocery bags are perfect for landscaping fabric in my food forest.

They'll last long enough for the trees to out-compete the bermuda grass.

chuckle

Don't even bother making Dollar General brooms and mops.

They don't WORK brand new.

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5* thread. Very interesting info., thanks for posting it. Hugs Cheer

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He Man  Wrote: (08-14-2019 06:20 PM)
5* thread. Very interesting info., thanks for posting it. Hugs Cheer

Are you ready to escape the Cult of Delphi?

I can deprogram you.

chuckle

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SkeptiSchism  Wrote: (08-14-2019 04:40 AM)
I've been separating out plastic waste from organic waste for almost 10 years now and putting in into recycle containers.

We just got a new recycle dumpster a while back and people around here throw regular trash in it. I guess they don't realize someone has to separate all that out or they don't care.

People can be pigs.

Rather than put a container filled with a few bags of mixed recyclables out by the curb once a week, I have septate bins in the garage for cardboard, plastic, metals, and glass. I even separate the clear plastic from the solid colored plastic. And the same with clear and colored glass. I even remove the labels from cans and plastic and glass bottles and jars. When one of these separate bins fill, I place those bags in the recycle container for pickup. I assume this makes someone's job easier. I learned this behavior long ago as a kid from my grandmother who told me they recycled everything back during the 2 world wars. They had to separate everything and remove labels. They even recycles cooking oil and grease back then.

Wow good habits. But me being the cynic I am can't help but be a little suspicious of these people recycling the items you separate out so carefully.

I read China isn't accepting any more recycled materials from the US and that a lot of our recyclable material is just piling up somewhere. The companies that do the recycling are often working off city, county, state or federal contracts so you are doing a lot of their work for them without gaining any compensation for your efforts.

It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
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Call me jaded but I think a lot of people get screwed trying to be environmentally conscious because their figureheads like Al Gore are just in it for the money.

It's just an angle to them so they have no incentive to tell the truth or even find out what the truth is unless the truth is detrimental to their business plan and they have to mitigate for it.

It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.
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SkeptiSchism  Wrote: (08-14-2019 08:47 PM)
Call me jaded but I think a lot of people get screwed trying to be environmentally conscious because their figureheads like Al Gore are just in it for the money.

It's just an angle to them so they have no incentive to tell the truth or even find out what the truth is unless the truth is detrimental to their business plan and they have to mitigate for it.

1. Plant trees. Lots and lots of trees.
2. Plant hemp. Lots and lots of hemp.
3. Quit making crap like Dollar Store dustpans that have a big lip right there on the edge so you can't sweep stuff into the pan.

Doesn't WORK BRAND NEW, so don't manufacture it.

4. Stop making cars that can't be RESTORED.

I have a 49 year old VW beetle in my garage and I can make it BETTER THAN BRAND NEW for $5000 plus some sweat equity.

Will you be able to do that with your plastic car with parts that change every year? Forty nine years from now? No, because your headlight lens only fits a 2017 model.

Stop buying those, demand a cheap high fuel economy car that's easy to fix with parts that INTERCHANGE decade after decade, across models.

I put the beetle engine in a 69 bus.

The bus engine will be going back in the beetle once I get some rebuilt heads.

5. End planned obsolescence. All that computer junk on the shores of Bangladesh got thrown away because the buggy operating system ate itsself.

Computer LEMON LAWS.

6. Contraception.

No cap and trade, no carbon taxes, no deadly defective smart meters.

Plant trees and hemp and quit manufacturing complete crap.

We have PLENTY of space to bury the baby boomer crapapalooza.

chuckle

7. Build some small houses so we don't have to blow $3000/month on the electric and heating bills.

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Case Western Students’ HMW Incinerator Wins ASCE Sustainability Award

https://news.asce.org/case-western-stude...ity-award/

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https://www.coloradomedicalwaste.com/

They got a sustainability award too^^^.

Morgellons should be renamed Agenda 21 epidermal fibrosis.



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I've made this suggestion before, and it's a potential billion dollar idea.

But I toss it out here because I don't have the resources to develop it, and I'd rather see it get done than make money off it myself.

Hemp landscaping fabric.

Many people today won't know this because they've never SEEN it. Back in the 1970's every lake and pond I fished in the midwest had a ring of algae around it, extending out about ten feet from the shoreline.

I used to scoop it out with my fish net:

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To get crawdads(crayfish) that lived in there.

For bait.

Then I threw the algae back in.

This all disappeared after we started using roundup on crops.

But also inside this algae was snails and nymphs and all kinds of other animal life.

It was a key part of the food chain in the lake or pond.

Kept the water clear too.

Now the lakes are all muddy and murky.

And these herbicides are in the rivers and flow into the oceans.

I took a fishing class in Kansas for a PE credit.

lol

Not because I was lazy....I took extra PE classes, it just sounded fun.

But in Kansas what they do now to ensure panfish(bass, crappie) for tourism is they FERTILIZE the lakes with agricultural fertilizer to feed the phytoplankton to feed the gizzard shad, to feed the bass.

Because the algae food(crayfish etc) is gone now.

This is not "sustainable."

What would be better:

You rotate your crops, and every year on one field you plant hemp.

You process that into landscaping fabric, and roll it back out for next season.

The next season when you plant, your planting machinery perforates holes in the fabric and plants the seeds.

No need for herbicides, and less need for WATER.

The money is in inventing the machines that make the fabric.

And machines that convert hemp seed oil into biodiesel.

To run all the machines.

This would drastically reduce inputs to farming operations including HERBICIDES, WATER, and FUEL.

So farmers would BUY this machinery.

And it'd help our rivers and streams, ponds and oceans.

A little off topic, but my strategy is to put it around, maybe the right person will see it.

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