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Brexit, the Tories, and the Constitution
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The head needs to be removed from the serpent.
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Post: #144
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spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (09-11-2019 12:27 PM)

So what the Scottish judges are saying is :- "It's illegal . . . .even though the Monarch gave assent" .
Does this make her a criminal too?
This Govt is an undemocratic joke. It's never been what's best for the people, it's about how it affects them.
We now know THEY REPRESENT THEMSELVES NOT THE PEOPLE !
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Perhaps the UK SC will do the right thing..

'Johnson's decision to suspend Parliament was unlawful, but did not order it to be overturned. Judges said Britain's Supreme Court must make the final decision'

also BoJo the clown is meant to have been very deceptive in the reasoning in appealing to QE2's supporting of the proroguing ?

I wouldn't of minded being a fly on the wall for that conversation.
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Johnson himself doing the honourable thing seem vanishingly slight. So if the ruling is upheld, Conservative MPs are going to have to decide how seriously they take their party's commitment to law and order & to the constitution.

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Scottish law has no jurisdiction in England, Supreme court will not preside over Parliamentary affairs. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it Nicola fish sturgeon.
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Post: #150
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are you sure about that .. because that is not what I am seeing here:

Quote:Stephen Tierney, professor of Constitutional Theory at Edinburgh University, believed the significance of this judgement would be felt not only in the short term but in the longer term also.

He explained: "The normal view of the courts is that it would not be appropriate to rule on the exercise of prerogative power.

"So the long-term significance of this ruling is very important."

"The lower court had said the actions of the executive were 'non-justiciable' - meaning they were not to be examined by judges.

"But this decision indicates the courts are more prepared than many people had expected to intervene in government actions."

The case was brought to the Court of Session by a cross-party group of 75 parliamentarians, who argued the PM had exceeded his powers.

Lord Doherty heard both sides of the argument and ruled last week that the issue was for the judgement of politicians and voters, and not the courts.

But when the case was taken to three appeal judges, they saw it differently.

They concluded that the PM was attempting to prevent Parliament holding the government to account, ahead of Brexit.

Jim Cormack, a constitutional law expert at lawyers Pinsent Mason in Edinburgh said: "The judges have decided this was a clear case in which the government had stepped outside of the normal room for manoeuvre it is allowed by the courts, when it gave its advice to HM the Queen.

He added: "This decision of the Scottish appeal court radically changes the legal landscape ahead of an expected hearing before the United Kingdom Supreme Court next week."

Why did Scotland's judges get involved?
This case was brought in a Scottish court because at the time the High Court in England was on holiday.

But that does not diminish the effect of the ruling, as the case was against the actions of the Westminister government which, within the devolution settlement, affects the whole of the UK.

So the ruling in Edinburgh is binding on the UK government - although this is by no means the end of the legal battle since the case will now be appealed to the UK Supreme Court which will make a definitive decision.

It is also likely to hear arguments arising from decisions in similar cases brought at the High Court in London under English law and the Northern Ireland High Court.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-49650729
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