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Bolton Fired!!!! <merged>
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NormalIsSubjective  Wrote: (09-11-2019 01:13 AM)
Ok, this I like.

Hot damn tamale charlie, and good f*cking riddance.


Cheer

I'm so pleased you're pleased. i am too.

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Bicnarok  Wrote: (09-10-2019 07:54 PM)
no idea who this is. Anon

Seriously, Bic?


What planet are you posting from?

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I am just now listening to PBS news, discussing the Bolton situation.
And they seem to imply that it is a conflict with Bolton's Hawkishness.
{PBS does seem to be liberal/dovish}

I am :shock:ed To see PBS Imply, anything good about President Trump. :shock:

So anyway. PBS, is saying Trump wants to avoid involvement in the business of sovereign nations. (Such as Afghanistan.) And that Bolton was in conflict, with that. And that they were both headstrong.

I do certainly agree with pulling out of Afghanistan, and soveriegn affairs in general.

One result of this, seems to be inspiration for what seems like the first time Trump got anything like 'good press', from PBS. 1dunno1

I still think if they respected each other, they could supply each other with useful talents and views. Their differences, could be an advantage.

(But whadda I know? 1dunno1
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He Man  Wrote: (09-10-2019 08:03 PM)
the Questeon?  Wrote: (09-10-2019 07:05 PM)
you mean like obama destroying Libya and invading Syria.

Obama didn't destroy Libya or invade Syria. wow dude, look at the history before you post idiocy. Libya was in a major civil war and Obama and coalition nations helped stop Gaddafi from slaughtering a huge number of his own citizens in the civil war. The coalition only made a no fly zone during a civil war,.. that is not "destroying Libya".

Obama tried to act in Syria's civil war but he knew the only way to do that legally was to get a war powers resolution from congress. He asked the republican controlled congress to vote on a war powers resolution on Syria and the republicans didn't even bring it up for a vote.

You are spewing fact-less nonsense.


You're the one spewing nonsense:


Hillary Emails Reveal True Motive for Libya Intervention

By Brad Hoff, Jan 6, 2016

Newly disclosed emails show that Libya’s plan to create a gold-backed currency to compete with the euro and dollar was a motive for NATO’s intervention.

The New Year’s Eve release of over 3,000 new Hillary Clinton emails from the State Department has CNN abuzz over gossipy text messages, the “who gets to ride with Hillary” selection process set up by her staff, and how a “cute” Hillary photo fared on Facebook... https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/201...ervention/

Hiding US Lies About Libyan Invasion
July 7, 2017 By Joe Lauria https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/07/hi...-invasion/

Listen to the tapes: Intel undercuts Hillary Clinton’s primary argument for Libya military action https://www.washingtontimes.com/listen-t...a-clinton/

Libya, Syria, Ukraine – Same Playbook, Same Puppet Masters
By Chris Kanthan, November 07, 2017 http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/48152.htm

How Libyan ‘Regime Change’ Lies Echo in Syria
By James W Carden, September 26, 2016 http://www.informationclearinghouse.info...e45562.htm
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Post: #171
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Isabella  Wrote: (09-10-2019 10:40 PM)
Lis Power
‏ @LisPower1

BOLTON IS TEXTING FOX HOSTS WHO ARE ON AIR TO DISPUTE TRUMP'S ACCOUNT OF HIS FIRING

Kilmeade: "John Bolton just texted me, just now, he's watching. He said, 'let's be clear, I resigned.'"


Rofl


Replying to @LisPower1

OMG Bolton and trump are totally going to have a break-up argument through Fox and Friends.
9:24 AM - 10 Sep 2019





31 replies 138 retweets 1,339 likes

New conversation
*clever & forgettable name here*
‏ @OpheliasMarbles
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Replying to @pcrritesgood @LisPower1

I am so here for that!





https://twitter.com/LisPower1/status/117...1216502785


Lmao
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Pasta Lover  Wrote: (09-10-2019 11:21 PM)
Today, I like him. Tomorrow, we'll see what happens. chuckle




lol you tRumplovers are just plain retarded.
all ya'll ever cared about is that he's a teevee star Lmao

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He Man  Wrote: (09-10-2019 10:54 PM)
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You're so clueless when it comes to America's war crimes and "intelligence" fuckery.. and you're way too paranoid about the (non-existent) Russian boogeyman.

I have to ask you, are you a Bolton supporter? It seems he was fired because he was very against dialogue and improving relations with North Korea, Iran, etc..

No I hate Bolton and the other neo-con asswipes that got the US into the Iraq war and now bolton wants to attack North Korea and Iran.

My point is Trump could see what Bolton was all about without actually appointing him to be head of NSA point person of all Us intelligence operations.

If Trump knew what Bolton was saying over a decade why did he appoint an idiot like Bolton, just to fire Bolton for being Bolton?

It shows how incompetent Trump is,... or Trump is acting on orders from Russia to totally f*#k up the US intelligence and geo-political system.


Payback to Adelson.
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Trump Fires John Bolton After "Disagreeing Strongly With His Suggestions"

While there was some feverish speculation as to what an impromptu presser at 1:30pm with US Secretary of State Pompeo, Treasury Secretary Mnuchin and National Security Adviser Bolton would deliver, that was quickly swept aside moments later when Trump unexpectedly announced that he had fired Bolton as National Security Advisor, tweeting that he informed John Bolton "last night that his services are no longer needed at the White House" after "disagreeing strongly with many of his suggestions", in the process ending a tumultuous tenure marked by several setbacks in U.S. foreign policy.

....I asked John for his resignation, which was given to me this morning. I thank John very much for his service. I will be naming a new National Security Advisor next week.



https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/stat...1729228802

According to sources, while Trump had been growing displeased with Bolton's belligerent recommendations and overall demeanor (recall "Bolton 'Deep in His Heart' Believes Trump Is a 'Moron,' Former Aide Claims"), the tipping point happened when Bolton expressed his displeasure with Trump's impromptu invitation of the Taliban to Camp David on the week of the Sept 11 anniversary, a peace overture which as we reported over the weekend, collapsed in the last moment.

https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/bolto...-1.7184851

As with every Trump personnel decision, this one too appears not to have gone off without a hitch, and minutes after Trump's announcment, Bolton tweeted that "I offered to resign last night and President Trump said, "Let's talk about it tomorrow.""

I offered to resign last night and President Trump said, "Let's talk about it tomorrow."



https://twitter.com/AmbJohnBolton/status...6069305346

It was unclear if they "talked about it", but Trump's verdict was clear: "you're fired", although as the new Yorker's Susan Glasser writes, "this is a Trump Admin first, I believe. A dumped official actually disputing the President's account of the dumping. Will Bolton become the first of the natsec advisers Trump has publicly humiliated to break with him and reveal what has been going on backstage?"



https://twitter.com/sbg1/status/1171457730558611456

Whatever the reason for Bolton's departure, this means one less warmongering neocon is left in the DC swamp, and is a prudent and long overdue move by Trump, one which even Trump's liberals enemies will have no choice but to applaud, and speaking of applauding, nobody will be happier than Iran and Venezuela:



https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/117...1265611779

And while the digital ink wasn't even dry yet on the tweet with which Trump fired Bolton, the former NSC already issued a veiled threat:

Ambassador Bolton to me just now: “I will have my say in due course. But I have given you the facts on the resignation. My sole concern is US national security.”



https://twitter.com/costareports/status/...2102917126

As Bloomberg details the often heated relationship, Bolton, 70, joined the White House in April 2018, "bringing an interventionist view into Trump’s inner circle."

Quote: From the outset, Bolton seemed like an odd fit under a president who champions an “America First” agenda. At times, he pursued his longstanding foreign policy priorities, creating tension with top administration officials and the president himself.

Bolton came to the post best known for his ardent support of the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq while serving in the George W. Bush administration. He was later was a Fox News contributor and senior fellow at the conservative American Enterprise Institute.

Weeks before joining the White House, Bolton wrote a Wall Street Journal op-ed arguing for a preemptive strike against North Korea, only for Trump to instead pursue diplomacy with Kim Jong Un. Bolton said that his personal views were “now behind me” and that “the important thing is what the president says and what advice I give him.” Yet, when Trump made a June visit to the Demilitarized Zone dividing the Korean Peninsula to meet with Kim, Bolton was absent, meeting with officials in Mongolia instead.

While we await more details on this strike by Trump against the military-industrial complex-enabling Deep State, here is a fitting closer from Curt Mills via the American Conservative:

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/...s-time-up/

Quote: Ending America’s longest war would be a welcome rebuttal to Democrats who will, day in and day out, charge that Trump is a fraud. But to do so, he will likely need a national security advisor more in sync with the vision. Among them: Tucker Carlson favorite Douglas Macgregor, Stephen Biegun, the runner-up previously, or the hawkish, but relatively pragmatic retired General Jack Keane.

Bolton seems to be following the well-worn trajectory of dumped Trump deputies. Jeff Sessions, a proto-Trump and the first senator to endorse the mogul, became attorney general and ideological incubator of the new Right’s agenda only to become persona non grata in the administration. The formal execution came later. Bannon followed a less dramatic, but no less explosive ebb and flow. James Mattis walked on water until he didn’t.

And Bolton appeared the leading light of a neoconservative revival, of sorts, until he didn’t.

And while the overall market yawned at the news, oil quickly dropped as the odds of an Iran war tumbled now that the most aggressive neocon is out.

So has Trump finally learned not to surround himself with belligerent war advocates? The answer will be disclosed when Trump reveals who Bolton's replacement as National Security Advisor will be.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/t...uggestions
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NormalIsSubjective  Wrote: (09-11-2019 01:50 AM)
He Man  Wrote: (09-10-2019 08:03 PM)
Obama didn't destroy Libya or invade Syria. wow dude, look at the history before you post idiocy. Libya was in a major civil war and Obama and coalition nations helped stop Gaddafi from slaughtering a huge number of his own citizens in the civil war. The coalition only made a no fly zone during a civil war,.. that is not "destroying Libya".

Obama tried to act in Syria's civil war but he knew the only way to do that legally was to get a war powers resolution from congress. He asked the republican controlled congress to vote on a war powers resolution on Syria and the republicans didn't even bring it up for a vote.

You are spewing fact-less nonsense.


You're the one spewing nonsense:


Hillary Emails Reveal True Motive for Libya Intervention

By Brad Hoff, Jan 6, 2016

Newly disclosed emails show that Libya’s plan to create a gold-backed currency to compete with the euro and dollar was a motive for NATO’s intervention.

The New Year’s Eve release of over 3,000 new Hillary Clinton emails from the State Department has CNN abuzz over gossipy text messages, the “who gets to ride with Hillary” selection process set up by her staff, and how a “cute” Hillary photo fared on Facebook... https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/201...ervention/

Hiding US Lies About Libyan Invasion
July 7, 2017 By Joe Lauria https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/07/hi...-invasion/

Listen to the tapes: Intel undercuts Hillary Clinton’s primary argument for Libya military action https://www.washingtontimes.com/listen-t...a-clinton/

Libya, Syria, Ukraine – Same Playbook, Same Puppet Masters
By Chris Kanthan, November 07, 2017 http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/48152.htm

How Libyan ‘Regime Change’ Lies Echo in Syria
By James W Carden, September 26, 2016 http://www.informationclearinghouse.info...e45562.htm

WWII was essentially an economic war against the massive recovery and economic success of Germany which had been scheduled to absolutely destroyed along with it's people at the end of WWI.

Economic war is the favorite war of certain people and tribes.
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"Pathocracy is where dangerously disordered personalities predominate in positions of power.
Their propensity for violence and greed, incapacity for basic human empathy and their disordered perception/cognition, renders them unable to ameliorate their distorted worldviews with reality and reason, mark them out as a danger to others."

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BlackCat, let's raise a glass in toast of this one thing that just about everyone will agree is a good thing.

Resume politicial infighting tomorrow.

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I'm about to crack a Stella in celebration of this. Please jon us. Beer32
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BlackCat, let's raise a glass in toast of this one thing that just about everyone will agree is a good thing.

Resume politicial infighting tomorrow.


yeah nah f*#k you
trump CHOSE Bolton. he chose to go down that path

a total fuckup like everything he does
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Strategos  Wrote: (09-11-2019 02:29 AM)
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BlackCat, let's raise a glass in toast of this one thing that just about everyone will agree is a good thing.

Resume politicial infighting tomorrow.

Cheers

OK, maybe this will set the doomsday clock back a notch.

"Pathocracy is where dangerously disordered personalities predominate in positions of power.
Their propensity for violence and greed, incapacity for basic human empathy and their disordered perception/cognition, renders them unable to ameliorate their distorted worldviews with reality and reason, mark them out as a danger to others."

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