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Trump continuing to fund a coup in Venezuela.
Eustace Muffins
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10-10-2019 01:52 PM

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Post: #61
RE: Trump continuing to fund a coup in Venezuela.
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NormalIsSubjective  Wrote: (10-10-2019 01:41 AM)
Eustace Muffins  Wrote: (10-09-2019 03:09 PM)
Here's why OP, never too late to be educated





Sure, the US history of meddling in Venezuela (along with other Central and S. American countries) has absolutely nothing to do with it.

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Eustace Muffins
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Post: #62
RE: Trump continuing to fund a coup in Venezuela.
NormalIsSubjective  Wrote: (10-10-2019 01:52 AM)
Eustace Muffins  Wrote: (10-09-2019 05:39 PM)
The question you should be really be asking is how many successful coup the US has done?


!953 Iran worked out well...


And the US still hasn't learned.

That's my point, only one. Thanks for helping and proving my point. One coup in 300 US history, and the US is some bad guy empire .. Jmpndlms

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Eustace Muffins
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Post: #63
RE: Trump continuing to fund a coup in Venezuela.
NormalIsSubjective  Wrote: (10-10-2019 02:00 AM)
Eustace Muffins  Wrote: (10-09-2019 10:15 PM)
This is the 2nd time you've moved the goalpost. You do realize this is what people do when they've lost an argument.

Since I've debunked anything you throw at me, I will tackle this fake news you just posted.

Firstly , socialite pictures mean nothing, especially in court. If so many other people in photos with whomever-criminal would be in jail by now.

2ndly, Trump didn't bust Jeffery out of jail. That is the biggest sore loser attempt at smearing trump that I have ever seen.






Socialists always fail in life.


So why does the US need to sanction them and interfere in their politics?


Because it cares about the little people?

lol

Because these countries rulers suppress their people of food and medicine, imprison the democratically elected opposition, and violently suppress freedom of speech. This must be a good thing for you I take it?

As for sanctions in Cuba , the US businesses whose property had been nationalized by the Cuban government without payment. Another reason for the embargo was pressure from refugees and immigrants from Cuba, who favored actions taken against Castro's government.


Venezuela has the largest Oil reserve, they should survive easily with a boatload of sanction imposed from the US. Theres no excuse. If Iran can do it then surely the Venezuela can do the same. Its just incompetence that comes from being a socialist country.


Have you been to Cuba or Venezuela , no you haven't. Try not shooting from the hip. That's unless you're not a socialist.

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NormalIsSubjective

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Post: #64
RE: Trump continuing to fund a coup in Venezuela.
Eustace Muffins  Wrote: (10-10-2019 01:52 PM)
NormalIsSubjective  Wrote: (10-10-2019 01:41 AM)
Sure, the US history of meddling in Venezuela (along with other Central and S. American countries) has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Cool link


Ok, here's a couple:


The History - and Hypocrisy - of US Meddling in Venezuela

By Brett Wilkins, Jan 28th 2019

There isn’t a nation in the Western Hemisphere that hasn’t at one time or another found itself caught in the far-reaching tentacles of US imperialism. Venezuela is certainly no exception. Washington has been meddling in its internal affairs since the 19th century and it continues to do so to this very day, when the specter of yet another US-backed coup, or even a direct American military intervention, looms larger by the day.

A Long History of Meddling

During most of the 20th century, US interference in Venezuela was mostly about oil, but that wasn’t always the case in earlier times... https://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/14263


Trump's Venezuela Moves Follow Long History Of Intervention In Latin America

Carrie Kahn, February 22, 2019

[...]

Over 40 regime changes in a century

The United States participated, directly or indirectly, in Latin American regime change more than 40 times in the last century, according to historian John Coatsworth. That figure doesn't include a number of failed missions like the 1961 Bay of Pigs assault in Cuba.

Some of the more stinging U.S. moves included the ouster of democratically elected governments in Guatemala in 1954, in Brazil a decade later and in Chile in 1973. Chilean President Salvador Allende was deposed in a violent coup by CIA-backed opponents, and the U.S. government long supported his replacement, the dictator Gen. Augusto Pinochet.

Gen. Augusto Pinochet waves to supporters from the balcony of his residence in Santiago, Chile, during the celebration of the 22nd anniversary of the 1973 military coup he led to oust President Salvador Allende.
Martin Thomas/AFP/Getty Images

In addition to covert support for insurgencies, the U.S. has invaded its southern neighbors numerous times. For instance, the U.S. launched invasions of the Dominican Republic (1916), Grenada (1983) and Panama (1989).

The motives were varied and are often still debated. Writing in Harvard University's ReVista magazine, Coatsworth says, "two factors seem to have been crucial in tipping decision makers toward intervention: domestic politics and global strategy." Much of the interference occurred while America was competing against the Soviet Union for influence around the world, even as U.S. leaders sought to shore up political support at home.

One bloody chapter that recently re-entered debate is the U.S. government's roles in Central America's civil wars in the 1980s, including support for death squads in El Salvador and Contra guerrillas in Nicaragua... https://www.npr.org/2019/02/22/696057482...in-america
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NormalIsSubjective

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10-11-2019 05:11 AM

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Post: #65
RE: Trump continuing to fund a coup in Venezuela.
Eustace Muffins  Wrote: (10-10-2019 01:53 PM)
NormalIsSubjective  Wrote: (10-10-2019 01:52 AM)
!953 Iran worked out well...


And the US still hasn't learned.

That's my point, only one. Thanks for helping and proving my point. One coup in 300 US history, and the US is some bad guy empire .. Jmpndlms


That was sarcasm.


And there's a lot more than "one"...


United States involvement in regime change

[...]

Contents

1 19th century interventions
1.1 1846: U.S.–Mexico War
1.2 1887–1889: Samoa
2 1893–1917: U.S. empire and expansionism
2.1 1890s
2.1.1 1893: Kingdom of Hawaii
2.1.2 1898: Cuba and Puerto Rico
2.1.3 1899: Philippines
2.1.4 1898–1901: China
2.2 1900s
2.2.1 1903: Panama
2.2.2 1900s–1920s: Honduras
2.3 1910s
2.3.1 1912–1933: Nicaragua
2.3.2 1914: Mexico
2.3.3 1915–1934: Haiti
2.3.4 1916–1924: Dominican Republic
3 World War I and interwar period
3.1 1918: Russia
3.2 1941: Panama
4 World War II and aftermath
4.1 1943–46: Italy
4.2 1944–46: France
4.3 1944–45: Belgium
4.4 1944–45: Netherlands
4.5 1945–49: Germany
4.6 1945–55: Austria
4.7 1945–52: Japan
4.8 1945–53: South Korea
4.9 1941–49: China
4.10 1944–49: Greece
4.11 1944–54: Philippines
5 Cold War Era
5.1 1950s
5.1.1 1947–1970s: Italy
5.1.2 1949: Syria
5.1.3 1952: Egypt
5.1.4 1953: Iran
5.1.5 1954: Guatemala
5.1.6 1955–1960: Laos
5.1.7 Failed coup plots against Syria
5.1.8 1957–1959: Indonesia
5.1.9 1958: Lebanon
5.1.10 1959: Iraq
5.2 1960s
5.2.1 1960: Democratic Republic of Congo
5.2.2 1960: Laos
5.2.3 1961: Dominican Republic
5.2.4 1960s: Cuba
5.2.5 1961–1975: Laos
5.2.6 1961–1964: Brazil
5.2.7 1963: Iraq
5.2.8 1963: Vietnam
5.2.9 1965–66: Dominican Republic
5.2.10 1965–1967: Indonesia
5.2.11 1967: Greece
5.3 1970s
5.3.1 1970: Cambodia
5.3.2 1971: Bolivia
5.3.3 1972–1975: Iraq
5.3.4 1973: Chile
5.3.5 1977-1988: Pakistan
5.3.6 Cambodia 1979-1993
5.3.7 1979–1989: Afghanistan
5.4 1980s
5.4.1 1980-1989: Poland
5.4.2 1980–1992: El Salvador
5.4.3 1982–1989: Nicaragua
5.4.4 1983: Grenada
5.4.5 1989: Panama
6 Post-Cold War
6.1 1990s
6.1.1 1991: Kuwait
6.1.2 1991: Haiti
6.1.3 1991–2003: Iraq
6.1.4 1994–2000: Iraq
6.1.5 1997–98: Indonesia
6.2 2000s
6.2.1 2000: Yugoslavia
6.2.2 2003: Iraq
6.2.3 2005–present: Iran
6.2.4 2006–07: Palestinian territories
6.2.5 Post–2005: Syria
6.3 2010s
6.3.1 2011: Libya
6.3.2 2015–present: Yemen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Sta...ime_change

Covert United States foreign Regime change actions https://viapopuli.com/covert-united-stat...ge-actions
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NormalIsSubjective

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10-11-2019 05:23 AM

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Post: #66
RE: Trump continuing to fund a coup in Venezuela.
Eustace Muffins  Wrote: (10-10-2019 02:05 PM)
NormalIsSubjective  Wrote: (10-10-2019 02:00 AM)
So why does the US need to sanction them and interfere in their politics?


Because it cares about the little people?

lol

Because these countries rulers suppress their people of food and medicine, imprison the democratically elected opposition, and violently suppress freedom of speech. This must be a good thing for you I take it?

As for sanctions in Cuba , the US businesses whose property had been nationalized by the Cuban government without payment. Another reason for the embargo was pressure from refugees and immigrants from Cuba, who favored actions taken against Castro's government.


Venezuela has the largest Oil reserve, they should survive easily with a boatload of sanction imposed from the US. Theres no excuse. If Iran can do it then surely the Venezuela can do the same. Its just incompetence that comes from being a socialist country.


Have you been to Cuba or Venezuela , no you haven't. Try not shooting from the hip. That's unless you're not a socialist.


As I noted above, US interventions and regime changes do nothing but cause even more turmoil.


Not to mention; for a guy that didn't sound too fond of Obama and Bush, he sure seems to enjoy their foreign policies.

Which is rather odd, considering:

Trump questions need for NATO, outlines noninterventionist foreign policy

By Philip Rucker and Robert Costa, March 21, 2016

Donald Trump outlined an unabashedly noninterventionist approach to world affairs Monday, telling The Washington Post's editorial board that he questions the need for the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, which has formed the backbone of Western security policies since the Cold War.

The meeting at The Post covered a range of issues, including media libel laws, violence at his rallies, climate change, NATO and the U.S. presence in Asia.

Speaking ahead of a major address on foreign policy later Monday in front of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, Trump said he advocates a light footprint in the world. In spite of unrest abroad, especially in the Middle East, Trump said the United States must look inward and steer its resources toward rebuilding domestic infrastructure.

"I do think it’s a different world today, and I don’t think we should be nation-building anymore," Trump said. "I think it’s proven not to work, and we have a different country than we did then. We have $19 trillion in debt. We’re sitting, probably, on a bubble. And it’s a bubble that if it breaks, it’s going to be very nasty. I just think we have to rebuild our country." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post...edirect=on
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Post: #67
RE: Trump continuing to fund a coup in Venezuela.
NormalIsSubjective  Wrote: (10-11-2019 05:23 AM)
Donald Trump outlined an unabashedly noninterventionist approach to world affairs

"I do think it’s a different world today, and I don’t think we should be nation-building anymore," Trump said. "I think it’s proven not to work, and we have a different country than we did then. We have $19 trillion in debt. We’re sitting, probably, on a bubble. And it’s a bubble that if it breaks, it’s going to be very nasty. I just think we have to rebuild our country." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post...edirect=on

They say one thing and
tell the people what they want to hear,
yet
do the opposite.
( when their lips are moving = typical corrupt politician)

same old same old, nothing new
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