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Bolton willing to testify at impeachment hearing as soon as he is legally cleared
He Man
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RE: Bolton willing to testify at impeachment hearing as soon as he is legally cleared
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Treebeard  Wrote: (11-07-2019 07:46 PM)
guys, the people who put Trump in office are the same ones who are now making him steal Syrian lands.

Bolton, Trump, Pompeo, Giuliani - these are all puppets.

Trump will not be impeached because the Senate is corrupted by the same puppet masters.

It's not even worth following.


1. The voters put Trump in office. No secret cabal chooses presidents. If you really think that, who are they?

2. The house can and will vote to impeach. Then Trump is "impeached" forever more. The senate can and might vote to convict Trump. Frankly it is getting more and more likely they will vote to convict, to get rid of the Trump anvil weighing down the Republican party and to save them selves with their own constituents.

Bill Clinton is famous for getting impeached, and then not convicted.

3. This is historical and important and is well worth following.

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RE: Bolton willing to testify at impeachment hearing as soon as he is legally cleared
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (11-07-2019 07:29 PM)
If you don't know what cleared means maybe you should read the original article, and share that instead.

WaPo requires a subscription. So I posted this OP instead.

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RE: Bolton willing to testify at impeachment hearing as soon as he is legally cleared
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (11-07-2019 08:01 PM)

Democrats say Bolton’s refusal to show up will become part of the evidence of Trump’s attempt to obstruct Congress.

"John R. Bolton, President Trump’s former national security adviser, did not show up Thursday for a voluntary interview as part of the House impeachment inquiry, but Democratic investigators said they would not subpoena him and would instead use his refusal to appear as evidence of Mr. Trump’s attempt to obstruct Congress.

Mr. Bolton, who regularly interacted with Mr. Trump directly as his top national security aide in the White House, would have been one of the most high-profile advisers to testify in the impeachment inquiry. Several other witnesses have described Mr. Bolton as being angry about the idea of holding up military aid to Ukraine in exchange for a demand that the country open an investigation into the president’s political rivals.

But an official with the House Intelligence Committee said Mr. Bolton’s lawyer had told them that the former national security adviser would file a lawsuit in federal court if he was subpoenaed, a legal challenge that would most likely take months to resolve. The official said that the committee did not want to allow the Trump administration to “play rope-a-dope with us” in the courts and slow down their inquiry.

In the first month of the impeachment investigation, Democrats made headway through the testimony of National Security Council officials and State Department diplomats who were involved in Ukraine policy. But unlike Mr. Bolton, those officials infrequently interacted with Mr. Trump.


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Much of that testimony painted a damning picture of a president outsourcing America’s foreign policy to his personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani, but gave little insight into what Mr. Trump said behind closed doors. Some Democrats and impeachment experts believe that if Senate Republicans are going to turn on Mr. Trump and convict him at an impeachment trial, investigators will need to develop new evidence about Mr. Trump’s involvement.

Had the investigators decided to compel Mr. Bolton’s testimony with a subpoena, it probably would have set off a lengthy court battle similar to one initiated by Charles M. Kupperman, Mr. Bolton’s deputy, who filed a lawsuit last month when faced with a subpoena from the committee and an order from Mr. Trump to not cooperate with investigators. On Wednesday, House Democrats pulled their subpoena of Mr. Kupperman out of concern that the litigation would slow down the impeachment investigation."


Mr. Kupperman’s lawyer, Charles J. Cooper, also represents Mr. Bolton."

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RE: Bolton willing to testify at impeachment hearing as soon as he is legally cleared
He Man  Wrote: (11-07-2019 08:17 PM)
Treebeard  Wrote: (11-07-2019 07:46 PM)
guys, the people who put Trump in office are the same ones who are now making him steal Syrian lands.

Bolton, Trump, Pompeo, Giuliani - these are all puppets.

Trump will not be impeached because the Senate is corrupted by the same puppet masters.

It's not even worth following.


1. The voters put Trump in office. No secret cabal chooses presidents. If you really think that, who are they?

2. The house can and will vote to impeach. Then Trump is "impeached" forever more. The senate can and might vote to convict Trump. Frankly it is getting more and more likely they will vote to convict, to get rid of the Trump anvil weighing down the Republican party and to save them selves with their own constituents.

Bill Clinton is famous for getting impeached, and then not convicted.

3. This is historical and important and is well worth following.

What are you going to do when he doesn't get removed from office and gets re-elected? chuckle
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RE: Bolton willing to testify at impeachment hearing as soon as he is legally cleared
RAW Sewage

Knfnpned
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RE: Bolton willing to testify at impeachment hearing as soon as he is legally cleared
Isabella  Wrote: (11-07-2019 07:22 PM)
iirc, It's Bolton's aide who filed the suit to have the courts decide if he had to honor Congress’s subpoena when the White House told him not to testify?

Yesterday I read /heard? that the Democrats dropped this guys subpoena because it would hold up their Impeachment Inquiry.

A delaying tactic that would take maybe months to be resolved then there's the appeals.


In part true, but also because they already have the evidence they need AND because the Stone trial just blew the f*cking lid off Barr’s criminal attempt to become an accomplice to felony obstruction.

The GOP just never learns.

The Mueller report and the tax return request was their OPPORTUNITY to quietly get Trump out office, discredited, and behind bars on mere obstruction and tax fraud charges.

Pence would have had two years in office to give him a fighting chance in 2020 and the GOP would be able to re-write actual history in an election cycle or two as Trump being “just one bad apple” along with a couple other people like Mantafort that history will soon forget...and the party of “law and order” couldn’t let that stand because they are sooo godly and patriotic or whatever.

Now...they get to stand by and watch their party be disassembled including strategists and political donors go down with the ship.

So dumb.
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RE: Bolton willing to testify at impeachment hearing as soon as he is legally cleared
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-07-2019 08:31 PM)
Isabella  Wrote: (11-07-2019 07:22 PM)
iirc, It's Bolton's aide who filed the suit to have the courts decide if he had to honor Congress’s subpoena when the White House told him not to testify?

Yesterday I read /heard? that the Democrats dropped this guys subpoena because it would hold up their Impeachment Inquiry.

A delaying tactic that would take maybe months to be resolved then there's the appeals.


In part true, but also because they already have the evidence they need AND because the Stone trial just blew the f*cking lid off Barr’s criminal attempt to become an accomplice to felony obstruction.

The GOP just never learns.

The Mueller report and the tax return request was their OPPORTUNITY to quietly get Trump out office, discredited, and behind bars on mere obstruction and tax fraud charges.

Pence would have had two years in office to give him a fighting chance in 2020 and the GOP would be able to re-write actual history in an election cycle or two as Trump being “just one bad apple” along with a couple other people like Mantafort that history will soon forget...and the party of “law and order” couldn’t let that stand because they are sooo godly and patriotic or whatever.

Now...they get to stand by and watch their party be disassembled including strategists and political donors go down with the ship.

So dumb.

Your slew of OPINIONS is less than mind-boggling, snowflake.
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RE: Bolton willing to testify at impeachment hearing as soon as he is legally cleared
Isabella  Wrote: (11-07-2019 08:21 PM)
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (11-07-2019 08:01 PM)

Democrats say Bolton’s refusal to show up will become part of the evidence of Trump’s attempt to obstruct Congress.

"John R. Bolton, President Trump’s former national security adviser, did not show up Thursday for a voluntary interview as part of the House impeachment inquiry, but Democratic investigators said they would not subpoena him and would instead use his refusal to appear as evidence of Mr. Trump’s attempt to obstruct Congress.

Mr. Bolton, who regularly interacted with Mr. Trump directly as his top national security aide in the White House, would have been one of the most high-profile advisers to testify in the impeachment inquiry. Several other witnesses have described Mr. Bolton as being angry about the idea of holding up military aid to Ukraine in exchange for a demand that the country open an investigation into the president’s political rivals.

But an official with the House Intelligence Committee said Mr. Bolton’s lawyer had told them that the former national security adviser would file a lawsuit in federal court if he was subpoenaed, a legal challenge that would most likely take months to resolve. The official said that the committee did not want to allow the Trump administration to “play rope-a-dope with us” in the courts and slow down their inquiry.

In the first month of the impeachment investigation, Democrats made headway through the testimony of National Security Council officials and State Department diplomats who were involved in Ukraine policy. But unlike Mr. Bolton, those officials infrequently interacted with Mr. Trump.


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Much of that testimony painted a damning picture of a president outsourcing America’s foreign policy to his personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani, but gave little insight into what Mr. Trump said behind closed doors. Some Democrats and impeachment experts believe that if Senate Republicans are going to turn on Mr. Trump and convict him at an impeachment trial, investigators will need to develop new evidence about Mr. Trump’s involvement.

Had the investigators decided to compel Mr. Bolton’s testimony with a subpoena, it probably would have set off a lengthy court battle similar to one initiated by Charles M. Kupperman, Mr. Bolton’s deputy, who filed a lawsuit last month when faced with a subpoena from the committee and an order from Mr. Trump to not cooperate with investigators. On Wednesday, House Democrats pulled their subpoena of Mr. Kupperman out of concern that the litigation would slow down the impeachment investigation."


Mr. Kupperman’s lawyer, Charles J. Cooper, also represents Mr. Bolton."

Question:

So what is to stop others that have been subpoenaed from starting their own lawsuits thus stalling the entire impeachment?
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RE: Bolton willing to testify at impeachment hearing as soon as he is legally cleared
northerntomcat  Wrote: (11-07-2019 09:22 PM)
Isabella  Wrote: (11-07-2019 08:21 PM)
Democrats say Bolton’s refusal to show up will become part of the evidence of Trump’s attempt to obstruct Congress.

"John R. Bolton, President Trump’s former national security adviser, did not show up Thursday for a voluntary interview as part of the House impeachment inquiry, but Democratic investigators said they would not subpoena him and would instead use his refusal to appear as evidence of Mr. Trump’s attempt to obstruct Congress.

Mr. Bolton, who regularly interacted with Mr. Trump directly as his top national security aide in the White House, would have been one of the most high-profile advisers to testify in the impeachment inquiry. Several other witnesses have described Mr. Bolton as being angry about the idea of holding up military aid to Ukraine in exchange for a demand that the country open an investigation into the president’s political rivals.

But an official with the House Intelligence Committee said Mr. Bolton’s lawyer had told them that the former national security adviser would file a lawsuit in federal court if he was subpoenaed, a legal challenge that would most likely take months to resolve. The official said that the committee did not want to allow the Trump administration to “play rope-a-dope with us” in the courts and slow down their inquiry.

In the first month of the impeachment investigation, Democrats made headway through the testimony of National Security Council officials and State Department diplomats who were involved in Ukraine policy. But unlike Mr. Bolton, those officials infrequently interacted with Mr. Trump.


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Much of that testimony painted a damning picture of a president outsourcing America’s foreign policy to his personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani, but gave little insight into what Mr. Trump said behind closed doors. Some Democrats and impeachment experts believe that if Senate Republicans are going to turn on Mr. Trump and convict him at an impeachment trial, investigators will need to develop new evidence about Mr. Trump’s involvement.

Had the investigators decided to compel Mr. Bolton’s testimony with a subpoena, it probably would have set off a lengthy court battle similar to one initiated by Charles M. Kupperman, Mr. Bolton’s deputy, who filed a lawsuit last month when faced with a subpoena from the committee and an order from Mr. Trump to not cooperate with investigators. On Wednesday, House Democrats pulled their subpoena of Mr. Kupperman out of concern that the litigation would slow down the impeachment investigation."


Mr. Kupperman’s lawyer, Charles J. Cooper, also represents Mr. Bolton."

Question:

So what is to stop others that have been subpoenaed from starting their own lawsuits thus stalling the entire impeachment?

Lawsuits cost money and they can get thrown out if not based on sound legal arguments that are not already settled law. So why jump into having to pay lawyers if you are going to lose anyway?

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He Man  Wrote: (11-07-2019 09:39 PM)
northerntomcat  Wrote: (11-07-2019 09:22 PM)
Question:

So what is to stop others that have been subpoenaed from starting their own lawsuits thus stalling the entire impeachment?

Lawsuits cost money and they can get thrown out if not based on sound legal arguments that are not already settled law. So why jump into having to pay lawyers if you are going to lose anyway?

I am sure Trump would foot the bill if it were to help him no get impeached. I could see them doing this till the cows came home.
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Transcript of George Kents testimony

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/...0-D009.pdf
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northerntomcat  Wrote: (11-07-2019 09:57 PM)
He Man  Wrote: (11-07-2019 09:39 PM)
Lawsuits cost money and they can get thrown out if not based on sound legal arguments that are not already settled law. So why jump into having to pay lawyers if you are going to lose anyway?

I am sure Trump would foot the bill if it were to help him no get impeached. I could see them doing this till the cows came home.

I think Trump's lawyers would tell him to not foot legal bills like that. Makes him look guilty and adds to obstruction of justice charges.

Most people testifying before Congress have to pay for their own lawyers and the longer they delay the process the more they pay in lawyer's fees. Most want to get it over ASAP, then get on with their lives.

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He Man  Wrote: (11-07-2019 08:19 PM)
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (11-07-2019 07:29 PM)
If you don't know what cleared means maybe you should read the original article, and share that instead.

WaPo requires a subscription. So I posted this OP instead.

Oh okay.

I'll give you a pass this time.

chuckle

That's dicky of them.

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Treebeard  Wrote: (11-07-2019 08:16 PM)
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (11-07-2019 07:48 PM)
No, taking the oil(which won't ever succeed) is Cheeto's own crackpot idea.

The people who helped him get in there are scratching their heads.

Sorry to say but if you believe that, you haven't done your research.
The English branch of the Rothschilds and their brothers-in-arms locked up those production contracts years ago.
Trump is now building two more bases to defend their claims.

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He Man  Wrote: (11-07-2019 10:01 PM)
northerntomcat  Wrote: (11-07-2019 09:57 PM)
I am sure Trump would foot the bill if it were to help him no get impeached. I could see them doing this till the cows came home.

I think Trump's lawyers would tell him to not foot legal bills like that. Makes him look guilty and adds to obstruction of justice charges.

Most people testifying before Congress have to pay for their own lawyers and the longer they delay the process the more they pay in lawyer's fees. Most want to get it over ASAP, then get on with their lives.

He misappropriates funds all the time as we see here.

Judge orders Trump to pay $2m for misusing charity foundation

A judge in New York orders President Donald Trump to pay $2 million for misusing his charitable foundation, the AP reports.

In December 2018, a second New York judge signed off on a deal to shut down Trump’s personal charity after a lawsuit exposed a “shocking pattern of illegality”.

Trump had used the charity to pay off legal settlements within his business and even to buy a painting of himself to hang in one of his golf clubs.

chuckle I mean you can't make this sh*t up.
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