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Impeachment Hearing with Fiona Hill and David Holmes
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-23-2019 11:38 PM)
Trump, being the new president of a company whose employees got used to stealing.... No wonder they don't like him.

$20 Billion Hidden in the Swamp: Feds Redact 255,000 Salaries

The only thing the bureaucratic resistance hates more than President Trump is the disclosure of their own salaries. It’s a classic case of the bureaucracy protecting the bureaucracy, underscoring the resistance faced by the new administration.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl...kZ5bkmlXEE


That's interesting.

But the really curious part:


"Who’s the bureaucrat in charge? Not a Trump appointee – the president doesn’t even have a current nominee at OPM. So, the buck stops with new acting Director Kathleen McGettigan, a 25-year staffer who assumed the position because she was the next in line, not because the White House appointed her.
Open the Books

Trump has the power to replace her at any time."


So why hasn't he?
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Post: #362
RE: Impeachment Hearing with Fiona Hill and David Holmes
NormalIsSubjective  Wrote: (11-24-2019 01:52 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-23-2019 11:38 PM)
Trump, being the new president of a company whose employees got used to stealing.... No wonder they don't like him.

$20 Billion Hidden in the Swamp: Feds Redact 255,000 Salaries

The only thing the bureaucratic resistance hates more than President Trump is the disclosure of their own salaries. It’s a classic case of the bureaucracy protecting the bureaucracy, underscoring the resistance faced by the new administration.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl...kZ5bkmlXEE


That's interesting.

But the really curious part:


"Who’s the bureaucrat in charge? Not a Trump appointee – the president doesn’t even have a current nominee at OPM. So, the buck stops with new acting Director Kathleen McGettigan, a 25-year staffer who assumed the position because she was the next in line, not because the White House appointed her.
Open the Books

Trump has the power to replace her at any time."


So why hasn't he?

Why should he? Seems like he's OK with her so far. Why was the previous people not do what she's doing? How many people that are in politics now have been in politics before Trump?
No matter what, Trump can't be blamed for all the issues before he showed up. It's funny how those who created the problems blame Trump and say they're the solution. Ukraine.... Going on way before Trump. Fudging numbers and this stuff...... Way before Trump.
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BOOOOOOOOOOOOsh!!!!!!!
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people couldn't even mention the GFC when Obama was President without getting shouted down.. yet every day here we see MAGA half wits apologizing and deflecting for Trump with whiny noises about Obama.

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NormalIsSubjective  Wrote: (11-24-2019 01:52 AM)
That's interesting.

But the really curious part:


"Who’s the bureaucrat in charge? Not a Trump appointee – the president doesn’t even have a current nominee at OPM. So, the buck stops with new acting Director Kathleen McGettigan, a 25-year staffer who assumed the position because she was the next in line, not because the White House appointed her.
Open the Books

Trump has the power to replace her at any time."


So why hasn't he?

Why should he? Seems like he's OK with her so far. Why was the previous people not do what she's doing? How many people that are in politics now have been in politics before Trump?
No matter what, Trump can't be blamed for all the issues before he showed up. It's funny how those who created the problems blame Trump and say they're the solution. Ukraine.... Going on way before Trump. Fudging numbers and this stuff...... Way before Trump.


Because it's taxpayer money being hidden in the swamp Trump promised to drain.


And why would Trump be ok with that?
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spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (11-23-2019 09:35 PM)
Ttpcmasm



Thread: The Path Forward is Clear

There is only one clear path forward, and that is to continue the impeachment investigations until the case is “ironclad.” Pelosi has said this since January and she’s never strayed from it, nor will she. Follow me and I will show you.
First, as I said above, Pelosi has always said that the Senate will NOT get the case until conviction is guaranteed. Conviction clearly is not yet guaranteed, so the Senate is NOT getting the case yet. Not gonna happen. No chance. Got it?
Sure, you have read that the plan is to hand the case to the Senate by Christmas. Pelosi is saying that because she doesn’t want to appear to be on a “witch hunt” or to be trying to drag this into election season. But Pelosi is intent on waiting until the case is “ironclad.”
First, the Ukraine investigation is not done yet. House Intel is preparing a report on its investigation. Judiciary will not get that report until December. Meanwhile, more Ukraine evidence comes out hourly. The Ukraine investigation is ongoing. But that’s not all.
Remember when the House adopted resolutions for the impeachment proceedings in October? Were those called “The Ukraine Investigation Resolutions”? No, they were called “Directing Certain Committees to Continue Their Ongoing Investigations.”

And it was *SIX* committees!
House Intelligence, FinServ, Foreign Affairs, Judiciary, Oversight, and Ways & Means *ALL* were “directed to continue their ongoing investigations as part of the existing House of Representatives inquiry into whether sufficient grounds exist...to impeach Donald John Trump.”
And guess what? That’s exactly what they’ve been doing since January. Nothing has changed. The investigations continue on *all* fronts. Let’s take a look at some of the hottest investigations and where they stand, because you’ll quickly see this is *NOT* just about Ukraine...
Let’s start with Judiciary, because we’ve already gotten word that they are on the verge of opening their own impeachment hearings on obstruction of the Mueller investigation. Judiciary is involved in two lawsuits to get what they need for those hearings, and they will win.
First, DC District Court will rule Monday (11/25) in the McGahn case and will find that Trump’s claim of “absolute immunity” is bogus. Trump will lose and McGahn will have to choose whether to stand in defiance of both a Congressional subpoena and a court order while DOJ appeals.
Second, the DC District Court already has ruled in favor of Judiciary that DOJ must turn over the redacted and withheld Mueller grand jury materials. That’s being appealed, with arguments in mid December. The case may end up at SCOTUS, where Judiciary will prevail.
Note: Not much of Volume II of the Mueller Report on obstruction was redacted, so Judiciary can proceed with a McGahn hearing now. But they’re after more than that: the redacted Volume I materials show that Trump lied to Mueller. And Judiciary is going to get it.
So Judiciary is going to be having hearings on both obstruction of justice and then likely another round of hearings on Trump perjury. That’s going to take a while and likely won’t conclude until, say, February. The Senate won’t get the case before then. No chance.
Next, the Oversight Committee. They won their case to enforce a subpoena against Trump’s accountants (Mazars) to get Trump’s tax records. Trump filed with SCOTUS to “stay” the subpoena. SCOTUS likely ruled on that yesterday (11/22) and we will learn its ruling on Monday.
If SCOTUS denies the stay, Oversight will have Trump’s tax records next week. But even if they grant the stay, Oversight asked for accelerated briefing and Trump agreed to that, so we should expect that case to be resolved by March at the latest. Ultimately, Trump will lose.
Once Oversight gets Trump’s tax records, it quickly will find he’s a tax fraud and a money launderer. Hearings will be announced and will take months. There is no chance the Senate gets the case before this is done. I repeat: NO CHANCE! ZERO. NONE.
Both House Intel and Financial Services also are suing to get Trump’s banking records from Deutsche Bank. That case will be decided any day now and Trump will lose and will have to seek another emergency stay from SCOTUS, which he also will lose.
Note: Depending on how much material comes from Mazars, the House may not even need the Deutsche Bank documents. But if they do find they need them, they will wait to get them before sending the case to the Senate. Guaranteed.
In short, this whole thing is far from over. Trump is fighting a war on all fronts and losing all of them. The Senate won’t get the case until the war is won and the House has everything it needs to guarantee conviction. And they will get it. We will win and Trump will lose.
My personal belief is there won’t be a Senate trial. The result will be obvious and Trump will be forced out, cut a deal, or pull a Hitler and die by suicide.

(I know I’m the only one who believes Trump is capable of suicide, so don’t bother telling me I’m wrong.)

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