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Why do you give your will to god?
Jb
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RE: Why do you give your will to god?
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Lakeofmarch  Wrote: (11-22-2019 08:29 PM)
Complicated question, but basically in order to get anything worthwhile done, the divine outside you has to recognize itself in the divine within you and send out a specific connection through which power, meaning, and understanding can pass. Buddha-mind crosses emptiness into manifestation.

And if higher self in actually you..what do you do then?
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RE: Why do you give your will to god?
Coolchick  Wrote: (11-22-2019 08:31 PM)
the god i talk with is nothing whatsoever to do with 'religion'

So who is it? Could it be you?
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RE: Why do you give your willy to god?
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RE: Why do you give your will to god?
Jb  Wrote: (11-22-2019 08:54 PM)
Coolchick  Wrote: (11-22-2019 08:31 PM)
the god i talk with is nothing whatsoever to do with 'religion'

So who is it? Could it be you?

Yes, hiding behind one's "self" it is the self that has to be redefined, and stripped to it's core.

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RE: Why do you give your will to god?
Jb  Wrote: (11-22-2019 08:51 PM)
SkeptiSchism  Wrote: (11-22-2019 08:32 PM)
Because our flesh is flawed. This comes from the original sin by Adam and Eve, and we all sin. Our flesh sins. We can't make good decisions (from God's perspective) so we turn our decisions over to God.

Now, that path isn't nearly as easy as it sounds. You've got a million different variables to sift through to see if you really have released your will to God or if you are still trying to hold onto it.

The thing is Satan convinces everyone that God is a control freak that He wants you to become His puppet. But it's actually just the opposite. God knows we are blind deaf and dumb and we are incapable of making any good decisions, any attempt on our part to relinquish our will to God glorifies Him.

What God wants is for us to overcome our sinful natures we can only do that by trusting God. Yes we continue to sin, but every one of those sins has been forgiven by Christ's blood.


No,that's just the sinner taking the advice of the other teacher. Lot of people hiding behind this one.chuckle

That's a common misunderstanding of the Gospel. The reality is, the law has already judged you for all your past sins. Christ doesn't judge you, in fact His sacrifice is offered in place of your sins, it's an exchange.

If you receive the gift then you are reborn of the Holy Spirit. There resides within you a seed of a future self freed entirely from the laws of duality and cause and effect. That person is eternal, existing in and with God for eternity.

Christ represents what God was going to do, share His being and essence with anyone who would accept. God laid down His right to exist solely as the Father for eternity in His own righteousness and instead He decided to share that righteousness with His Children.

It really is amazing but very few people can see this clearly because they have never truly accepted the sacrifice and been reborn of the Holy Spirit.

I think you're baiting me for argument so I am out. Have a nice day.

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Post: #21
RE: Why do you give your will to god?
Penelope Lane  Wrote: (11-22-2019 08:56 PM)
Jb  Wrote: (11-22-2019 08:54 PM)
So who is it? Could it be you?

Yes, hiding behind one's "self" it is the self that has to be redefined, and stripped to it's core.

..if you want any real change..
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RE: Why do you give your will to god?
Jb  Wrote: (11-22-2019 09:01 PM)
Penelope Lane  Wrote: (11-22-2019 08:56 PM)
Yes, hiding behind one's "self" it is the self that has to be redefined, and stripped to it's core.

..if you want any real change..

I was really very happy with my "self" when I went through that, the happiest with my self I had ever been.

I didn't think I needed any change.

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Post: #23
RE: Why do you give your will to god?
SkeptiSchism  Wrote: (11-22-2019 08:56 PM)
Jb  Wrote: (11-22-2019 08:51 PM)
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No,that's just the sinner taking the advice of the other teacher. Lot of people hiding behind this one.chuckle

That's a common misunderstanding of the Gospel. The reality is, the law has already judged you for all your past sins. Christ doesn't judge you, in fact His sacrifice is offered in place of your sins, it's an exchange.

If you receive the gift then you are reborn of the Holy Spirit. There resides within you a seed of a future self freed entirely from the laws of duality and cause and effect. That person is eternal, existing in and with God for eternity.

Christ represents what God was going to do, share His being and essence with anyone who would accept. God laid down His right to exist solely as the Father for eternity in His own righteousness and instead He decided to share that righteousness with His Children.

It really is amazing but very few people can see this clearly because they have never truly accepted the sacrifice and been reborn of the Holy Spirit.

I think you're baiting me for argument so I am out. Have a nice day.

chuckle

I'm not. The way is not complicated. I don't need your speech about the special way that only a few special people can see.
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Post: #24
RE: Why do you give your will to god?
Being merely in the vicinity of the Presence is so spectacular there is nothing in space-time and the Universe, never mind on planet Earth, that is even is the same league of awesome. Cannot use words, music, art, whatever to justly describe the Communion (I call being Flashed).

That's why.
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Post: #25
RE: Why do you give your will to god?
Penelope Lane  Wrote: (11-22-2019 09:03 PM)
Jb  Wrote: (11-22-2019 09:01 PM)
..if you want any real change..

I was really very happy with my "self" when I went through that, the happiest with my self I had ever been.

I didn't think I needed any change.

Levels..
How bout the fact our whole way of living is a sin..I there yet?
Can't do nothin,right?
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RE: Why do you give your will to god?
Jb  Wrote: (11-22-2019 09:05 PM)
SkeptiSchism  Wrote: (11-22-2019 08:56 PM)
That's a common misunderstanding of the Gospel. The reality is, the law has already judged you for all your past sins. Christ doesn't judge you, in fact His sacrifice is offered in place of your sins, it's an exchange.

If you receive the gift then you are reborn of the Holy Spirit. There resides within you a seed of a future self freed entirely from the laws of duality and cause and effect. That person is eternal, existing in and with God for eternity.

Christ represents what God was going to do, share His being and essence with anyone who would accept. God laid down His right to exist solely as the Father for eternity in His own righteousness and instead He decided to share that righteousness with His Children.

It really is amazing but very few people can see this clearly because they have never truly accepted the sacrifice and been reborn of the Holy Spirit.

I think you're baiting me for argument so I am out. Have a nice day.

chuckle

I'm not. The way is not complicated. I don't need your speech about the special way that only a few special people can see.

It's not that we are special, it's just a fact most people don't want to release what they, at root, consider their only property, i.e. their will.

Matthew 7:13-14

Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it."

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Post: #27
RE: Why do you give your will to god?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-22-2019 09:06 PM)
Being merely in the vicinity of the Presence is so spectacular there is nothing in space-time and the Universe, never mind on planet Earth, that is even is the same league of awesome. Cannot use words, music, art, whatever to justly describe the Communion (I call being Flashed).

That's why.
I get nothing from this.
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Post: #28
RE: Why do you give your will to god?
SkeptiSchism  Wrote: (11-22-2019 09:08 PM)
Jb  Wrote: (11-22-2019 09:05 PM)
I'm not. The way is not complicated. I don't need your speech about the special way that only a few special people can see.

It's not that we are special, it's just a fact most people don't want to release what they, at root, consider their only property, i.e. their will.

Matthew 7:13-14

Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it."

You know what clubs do.. They segregate. You can preach all you want..
It is not the way.
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Post: #29
RE: Why do you give your will to god?
Jb  Wrote: (11-22-2019 09:06 PM)
Penelope Lane  Wrote: (11-22-2019 09:03 PM)
I was really very happy with my "self" when I went through that, the happiest with my self I had ever been.

I didn't think I needed any change.

Levels..
How bout the fact our whole way of living is a sin..I there yet?
Can't do nothin,right?

We are thrust into this world, and have to make our way through it. You render unto "caesar" that which is his. We all do.

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Post: #30
RE: Why do you give your will to god?
Unless it's all inclusive..as in all life..
It is not the way.

PERIOD.
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