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Tree planting 'has mind-blowing potential' to tackle climate crisis
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RE: Tree planting 'has mind-blowing potential' to tackle climate crisis
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Luvapottamus  Wrote: (11-30-2019 08:09 PM)
prosthetic brain  Wrote: (11-30-2019 07:56 PM)
wow , what 200+ IQ super genius figured that out ??

give that man a raise chuckle

chuckle

He crunched the numbers and deserves credit for that.

is it just me or does planting trees seem the most obvious of common sense solutions to normalize climate fluctuations.....

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LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-30-2019 08:02 PM)
The trade war means it is ok to burn down the amazon to replace american farm products like soybeans.

Burning it is the dumbest part of the process.

(Some of it for firewood is fine, but burning it just to get it out of the way is a waste.

It's fertilizer.





We need 3-D "printing" ag tools.

Can't hugel kultur with a tractor-combine setup but you can with a gantry crane.

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RE: Tree planting 'has mind-blowing potential' to tackle climate crisis
prosthetic brain  Wrote: (11-30-2019 08:12 PM)
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (11-30-2019 08:09 PM)
chuckle

He crunched the numbers and deserves credit for that.

is it just me or does planting trees seem the most obvious of common sense solutions to normalize climate fluctuations.....

Well, depends on your goal doesn't it?

If you want to make a lot of money trading carbon credits and selling defective spy technology to monitor everybody's "emissions", planting trees doesn't help anything.

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chuckle

My smart meter investments and carbon trading market won't be worth anything if we SOLVE the problem real fast.

Simple common sense solutions aren't worth much $$$$.

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RE: Tree planting 'has mind-blowing potential' to tackle climate crisis
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (11-30-2019 06:39 PM)
PopEye  Wrote: (11-30-2019 06:23 PM)
Agreed. There's nothing bad about it and everything good about it.

Carbon taxes and cap and trade are the "solutions" being pushed at us.

Like "sin" taxes.

Tobacco taxes never made me smoke less. They stress me out and I smoke more.

chuckle

You also have the geoengineering "solution. Reflect sunlight back into space.

The problems with that idea:
1)If you use metallic aerosols it reflects RF radiation back down on us. WIFI broiler.
2)Blocks out the stars. I need to see stars, so do insects. People need to see them for inspiration and awe.
3)Reduces evaporation. When you reduce evaporation, you cause drought, and you reduce clouds which also reflect sunlight back into space.

Planting trees has none of these problems and it's fun, and it's cheap, and it increases fertility across the food web.

It also reduces heat and increases moisture on the ground.

I don't like wasting oil, but taxing me so I can't make it to the next gas station doesn't magically result in my car becoming more efficient.

Increase fuel economy standards and I will buy a more fuel efficient car used ten years from now.

Expand Amtrak and I'll ride it.

I tried to buy a Geo when Obama prices went up to $4/gallon, but nobody who had one was selling.

In fact I saw a whole lot more of those cars on the road months after it spiked than I had seen in ten years. Prescient people had garaged them for just such an occasion, then they went back into storage after it dropped.

chuckle

Wait. Hold on. Full stop.

You smoke?

"Yeah, cellphone towers totally cause cancer." *puffs on a stick full of nicotine, formaldehyde, ammonia, hydrogen cyanide, and arsenic.*
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RE: Tree planting 'has mind-blowing potential' to tackle climate crisis
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (11-30-2019 08:18 PM)
prosthetic brain  Wrote: (11-30-2019 08:12 PM)
is it just me or does planting trees seem the most obvious of common sense solutions to normalize climate fluctuations.....

Well, depends on your goal doesn't it?

If you want to make a lot of money trading carbon credits and selling defective spy technology to monitor everybody's "emissions", planting trees doesn't help anything.

[Image: EF1QYok.jpg]

chuckle

My smart meter investments and carbon trading market won't be worth anything if we SOLVE the problem real fast.

Simple common sense solutions aren't worth much $$$$.

ah , yes

how can we have a obtrusive panopticonic micro managing nanny state surveillance network if the fix is as easy as sticking plants in the ground ....silly me chuckle

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LoP Guest  Wrote: (11-30-2019 05:57 PM)
There is no climate crisis other than the one that is constantly changing since birth.


It's a political climate crisis.

That's gov-speak for the approaching shitstorm.


Interestingly, and unlike the planetary variety, political climates are truly human-caused and something we could actually fix.

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while the climate crisis is bunk, planting trees is never a bad thing.
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prosthetic brain  Wrote: (11-30-2019 08:48 PM)
ah , yes

how can we have a obtrusive panopticonic micro managing nanny state surveillance network if the fix is as easy as sticking plants in the ground ....silly me chuckle

chuckle

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This thread feels underpopulated.

A few members are noticeably absent in here.

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RE: Tree planting 'has mind-blowing potential' to tackle climate crisis
Future generations will need lumber and fire wood. I'm all for this. 5*

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RE: Tree planting 'has mind-blowing potential' to tackle climate crisis
Luvapottamus  Wrote: (11-30-2019 05:42 PM)
Tree planting 'has mind-blowing potential' to tackle climate crisis

Research shows a trillion trees could be planted to capture huge amount of carbon dioxide

Planting billions of trees across the world is one of the biggest and cheapest ways of taking CO2 out of the atmosphere to tackle the climate crisis, according to scientists, who have made the first calculation of how many more trees could be planted without encroaching on crop land or urban areas.

As trees grow, they absorb and store the carbon dioxide emissions that are driving global heating. New research estimates that a worldwide planting programme could remove two-thirds of all the emissions from human activities that remain in the atmosphere today, a figure the scientists describe as “mind-blowing”.

The analysis found there are 1.7bn hectares of treeless land on which 1.2tn native tree saplings would naturally grow. That area is about 11% of all land and equivalent to the size of the US and China combined. Tropical areas could have 100% tree cover, while others would be more sparsely covered, meaning that on average about half the area would be under tree canopy.

The scientists specifically excluded all fields used to grow crops and urban areas from their analysis. But they did include grazing land, on which the researchers say a few trees can also benefit sheep and cattle.

“This new quantitative evaluation shows [forest] restoration isn’t just one of our climate change solutions, it is overwhelmingly the top one,” said Prof Tom Crowther at the Swiss university ETH Zürich, who led the research. “What blows my mind is the scale. I thought restoration would be in the top 10, but it is overwhelmingly more powerful than all of the other climate change solutions proposed.”...

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/365/6448/76

Even if you don't believe CO2 is causing climate change, this solution has many benefits, and the alternatives being rammed at us have many drawbacks.

What climate crisis?

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daersoulkeeper  Wrote: (11-30-2019 11:41 PM)
while the climate crisis is bunk, planting trees is never a bad thing.

Spoken like a true Pequeninos/piggie... eh, Rooter???
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We can't plant trees anymore. The storms keep knocking them over. Seriously. I have pictures and video to prove it from last year. Too much rain is also weakening the soil, causing existing tall trees to fall over even with modest winds .. and sometimes with no wind at all.
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What we really need is a more holistic transportation system.
Someday... after we're all dead.
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RE: Tree planting 'has mind-blowing potential' to tackle climate crisis
Did you know there are several planets in our solar system experiencing climate change? Planet Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Neptune and Pluto are all undergoing global warming suddenly at the same time. Clearly the cause of climate change is far greater than cow farts and car exhaust.
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