Me  Wrote: (12-03-2019 02:43 PM)

Well, one can't accuse them of being deep thinkers.
They voted for Hildebeast simply because of her gender.

thanks for the example of Trump rhetoric that is old, outdated and untrue.

Quote:It’s not a treaty, does not override national sovereignty and does not allow the UN to dictate what governments do. It has no legal force and is not intended to be implemented in a top-down way.

Nevertheless, almost as soon as it was inked, Agenda 21 became the focus of conspiracy thinking, which at first mostly came from the far right.

The main thrust of most of those conspiracy theories echoes Roberts’s remarks to the Senate: Agenda 21 is in fact a UN plan to deprive nations of their sovereignty, and individuals of their property rights.

On the fringes of the right, a benign agreement encouraging social and environmental stewardship became a disguised attempt to impose global communism on free citizens. Tom DeWeese, an American rightwing activist who heads up the American Policy Center, was one of the earliest critics of the agreement, and has remained consistent in his claim that sustainable development is a “utopian, socialist nightmare”.

Like Roberts, DeWeese wants his country to pull out of the UN, and also cites the erosion of national sovereignty and property rights as the main dangers posed by Agenda 21, which is voluminously attacked on his website.

The John Birch Society – infamous for its decades-long crusade against imagined communist conspiracies – also played a key early role in pushing the idea that Agenda 21 was communism in another guise.

During the late 1990s, the burgeoning militia movement in the US took the view that Agenda 21 was part of a grand plan to institute one world government – the plan for sustainable development was the first step on a road that would lead to the UN’s black helicopters landing on the White House lawn to dismantle the Republic.

This belief has persisted on the armed, radical right – the Bundy occupation of the Malheur Wildlife Refuge last January was driven in part by the idea that local ranchers were being deprived of grazing rights under the aegis of Agenda 21.

In recent years, though, paranoia about Agenda 21 has become mainstream via rightwing media stars and politicians. Probably the most important advocate has been Glenn Beck, who has spruiked the conspiracy theory on television and radio.

He even authored a dystopian science fiction novel which envisaged an America under the yoke of global, environmentalist government.

The blurb provides a neat summary of the fear at the heart of anti-Agenda 21 activism:

Just a generation ago, this place was called America. Now, after the worldwide implementation of a UN-led program called Agenda 21, it’s simply known as “the Republic.” There is no president. No Congress. No Supreme Court. No freedom.

As usual, the real danger in far right beliefs is the way in which they cross over into mainstream conservative politics.

Mainstream political figures in the US – among them former presidential candidates Ted Cruz and Newt Gingrich – have warned in dark terms about the danger posed by Agenda 21.

As the theory caught on among the Republican grassroots in the last decade, several US state houses passed resolutions condemning it, and Alabama even passed a law specifically aimed at its imagined danger to property rights.


And in Australia, Nick Minchin, a former Howard government minister and mentor to current rightwing powerbroker Cory Bernardi, voiced similar sentiments to the anti-Agenda 21 movement without naming the agreement.

On efforts to combat climate change, Minchin told the ABC’s Four Corners in 2009 that:

For the extreme left, it provides the opportunity to do what they have always wanted to do, which is to sort of de-industrialise the western world. The collapse of communism was a disaster for the left and, really, they embraced environment as their new religion.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...mless-kook

Quote:Seven years earlier, Trump was riffing on a very different set of hacked emails. The real estate mogul had called into Fox News after a blizzard to declare that climate change was a hoax. Trump claimed that “one of the leaders of global warming” had recently admitted in a private email that years of scientific research were nothing but “a con.”

Trump was referring to the 2009 Climategate scandal, in which emails from climate scientists were hacked and disseminated across the internet. Climate change deniers claimed the messages showed scientists engaging in misconduct and fabricating a warming pattern that didn’t really exist. Multiple investigations ultimately exonerated the researchers, but not before a media firestorm undercut public confidence in the science—just as world leaders were meeting in Copenhagen, Denmark, to attempt to rein in greenhouse gas emissions.

In hindsight, the Climategate hack, clearly timed to disrupt the Copenhagen negotiations, looks like a precursor to the hack that helped shape the outcome of the 2016 election. That’s how John Podesta, the Clinton campaign chairman whose stolen emails were posted on WikiLeaks in the final weeks of the campaign, sees it. The parallels go beyond the hacks themselves. “I think it was the intentionality of influencing the public debate,” he says.

Quote:‘The Mail on Sunday’, a UK national newspaper, has been
forced to publish a lengthy admission today that an article on climate change by one of its reporters, David Rose, was fake news.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/a...-data.html


On 5 February 2017, the newspaper published, over two and a half pages, a news story by Mr Rose under the headline ‘EXPOSED: How world leaders were duped over global warming’. The article was also published on its website, which it shares with its sister newspaper, the ‘Daily Mail’.

The story alleged that an academic paper by Dr Thomas Karl and colleagues at the United States National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), which was published in the journal ‘Science’ in June 2015, “exaggerated global warming and was timed to influence the historic Paris Agreement on climate change”.

The paper on ‘Possible artifacts of data biases in the recent global warming hiatus’ presented the results of a new analysis of oceanic and land surface temperatures, and concluded that they “do not support the notion of a ‘slowdown’ in the increase in global surface temperature”.

Mr Rose based his story, after a tip-off from Dr Judith Curry, mainly on a blog and interview with Dr John Bates, a former NOAA employee, who had not been involved in the study, but who was critical of the way in which its data had been archived.

The Trump supporters always barge into topics with their cognitive dissonance and think they are winners.

Fork  Wrote: (12-03-2019 04:43 PM)

The Trump supporters always barge into topics with their cognitive dissonance and think they are winners.

Nice bait. Hope you catch something.

LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-03-2019 04:46 PM)

Nice bait. Hope you catch something.

You are attracted to bait threads so you can share your cognitive dissonance with others. You are creating the cycle and the attitude that you complain about.

Have fun being a bit*h.

Fork  Wrote: (12-03-2019 04:57 PM)

You are attracted to bait threads so you can share your cognitive dissonance with others. You are creating the cycle and the attitude that you complain about.

Have fun being a bit*h.

Glad you know me by one post.
Project much?

LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-03-2019 05:08 PM)

Glad you know me by one post.
Project much?

Did you find a thread on LOP that makes you feel better?

Or better yet, make a safe place thread for yourself, invite others to share your political views.

Be well.

Fork  Wrote: (12-03-2019 05:21 PM)

Did you find a thread on LOP that makes you feel better?

Or better yet, make a safe place thread for yourself, invite others to share your political views.

Be well.

Nope! Don't need your liberal safe spaces. Yes lib's own safe spaces. They invented them.
My safe space is life. Not on the interwebz dear.

Quit attacking me by profanity. Only my husband can call me a bit*h!

Norseman  Wrote: (12-03-2019 12:12 PM)

All of you get along, or I'll beat you up

PuddyCat  Wrote: (12-03-2019 06:40 PM)

All of you get along, or I'll beat you up

spank me daddy

Fork  Wrote: (12-03-2019 06:42 PM)

spank me daddy

Bend over

I used to get that when growing up

PuddyCat  Wrote: (12-03-2019 06:51 PM)

Bend over

I used to get that when growing up

My mom spanked me more than my father. All my dad had to do was give me a stern look and I knew I had better straighten up.

My mom spanked me the most with kitchen utensils.

but she never spanked me with a fork.... mostly spoons and spatulas.