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5 ways Trump and his cult are like science deniers
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5 ways Trump and his cult are like science deniers
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The cult of Trump shares the same characteristics and reasoning embraced by science deniers.

From anti-evolutionists to anti-vaccine advocates, known as “anti-vaxxers,” climate change deniers to Flat Earthers, science deniers all follow a common pattern of faulty reasoning that allows them to reject what they don’t want to believe — and accept what they favor — based on a misunderstanding of how science deals with evidence.


There are five common tactics used by science deniers.


1. Believing in conspiracy theories
2. Relying on cherry-picked evidence
3. Relying on fake experts (and dismissal of actual experts)
4. Committing logical errors
5. Setting impossible standards for what science should be able to deliver

read more here:
https://www.salon.com/2019/12/01/5-ways-...s_partner/
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12-01-2019 10:43 PM

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RE: 5 ways Trump and his cult are like science deniers
Here are the five ways Trump and his allies use the same strategies as science deniers:

1. Conspiracy theories: During his questioning of Ambassador Bill Taylor and other witnesses at the impeachment hearings, Republican counsel Steve Castor repeatedly pursued a debunked conspiracy theory involving an alleged plot in which the Ukrainian government — and not the Russians — interfered with the 2016 presidential election because they were out to get the president.

2. Cherry-picking: Gordon Sondland, U.S. ambassador to the European Union, testified before the House Intelligence Committee that President Trump told him, “I want nothing from Ukraine. I want no quid pro quo.” Trump and his supporters focused on this statement as evidence of his innocence, despite the fact that in other testimony by Sondland that day, he said, “Mr. Giuliani’s requests were a quid pro quo for arranging a White House visit for President Zelensky…Mr. Giuliani was expressing the desires of the president of the United States, and we knew that these investigations were important to the president.”

3. Discrediting experts: President Trump has repeatedly — and falsely — claimed that State Department and CIA employees such as Bill Taylor, George Kent, Fiona Hill, Alexander Vindman and others who have testified in the impeachment hearings are “Never Trumpers,” a term for Republicans who do not support Trump — and who therefore have no credibility. His supporters have latched onto this tactic. GOP Sen. Josh Hawley of Missouri said on Sept. 20, after the whistleblower complaint was made public: “It looks to me like another deep-state attack.”

4. Illogical reasoning: Trump supporters have claimed that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky never complained that he felt pressured by Trump to do the investigations into the Bidens that Trump sought. Trump himself has described the July 25 conversation he had with Zelensky in which he asked for the investigations as “perfect.” But news reports have shown that Zelensky did in fact feel pressured, and analysts have pointed out that Zelensky would risk losing crucial U.S. support were he to anger Trump by saying that he felt pressured.

5. Double standard for opponents: Trump claimed that written testimony from the whistleblower was unacceptable, despite the fact that he himself had only given written testimony in the Mueller investigation. Some of his supporters seem to agree and have tried to compel the whistleblower’s in-person testimony.

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12-01-2019 10:45 PM

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RE: 5 ways Trump and his cult are like science deniers
Scholars have studied the role of identity in shaping belief and concluded that sometimes even empirical beliefs can be tribal, reflecting what the other people on your team want you to believe.

Adherence to a belief is not always based on evidence.

The danger, of course, is that even as new facts come in, people won’t change their minds. This is the direct opposite of good empirical reasoning.

It is the hallmark of science that beliefs should be based on evidence, and that people should be willing to change their beliefs based on new evidence.

This means that people should be able to specify in advance what evidence, if it existed, would be sufficient to get them to change their minds.
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RE: 5 ways Trump and his cult are like science deniers
Fork  Wrote: (12-01-2019 10:40 PM)
The cult of Trump shares the same characteristics and reasoning embraced by science deniers.

From anti-evolutionists to anti-vaccine advocates, known as “anti-vaxxers,” climate change deniers to Flat Earthers, science deniers all follow a common pattern of faulty reasoning that allows them to reject what they don’t want to believe — and accept what they favor — based on a misunderstanding of how science deals with evidence.


There are five common tactics used by science deniers.


1. Believing in conspiracy theories
2. Relying on cherry-picked evidence
3. Relying on fake experts (and dismissal of actual experts)
4. Committing logical errors
5. Setting impossible standards for what science should be able to deliver

read more here:
https://www.salon.com/2019/12/01/5-ways-...s_partner/

you mean the "science" done by PAID researchers?

"Science" that is done to meet the one who is paying agenda?

That science?
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12-01-2019 10:51 PM

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RE: 5 ways Trump and his cult are like science deniers
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-01-2019 10:49 PM)
Fork  Wrote: (12-01-2019 10:40 PM)
The cult of Trump shares the same characteristics and reasoning embraced by science deniers.

From anti-evolutionists to anti-vaccine advocates, known as “anti-vaxxers,” climate change deniers to Flat Earthers, science deniers all follow a common pattern of faulty reasoning that allows them to reject what they don’t want to believe — and accept what they favor — based on a misunderstanding of how science deals with evidence.


There are five common tactics used by science deniers.


1. Believing in conspiracy theories
2. Relying on cherry-picked evidence
3. Relying on fake experts (and dismissal of actual experts)
4. Committing logical errors
5. Setting impossible standards for what science should be able to deliver

read more here:
https://www.salon.com/2019/12/01/5-ways-...s_partner/

you mean the "science" done by PAID researchers?

"Science" that is done to meet the one who is paying agenda?

That science?

echo.... echo.... echo...

How much is the Trump campaign paying for ads that say he did nothing wrong?



yeh.... paid agenda
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12-01-2019 10:52 PM

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RE: 5 ways Trump and his cult are like science deniers
Please post your irrational support for Trump in this thread...

so we can use it as an example.


Popcorn Popcorn Popcorn Popcorn
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RE: 5 ways Trump and his cult are like science deniers
Ehh not a fan.... just another jewish actor...
but i am fascinated by this trump derangement syndrome. He could be saving babies from a fire and people would demonize him. Ehhh shows the power of msm.
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RE: 5 ways Trump and his cult are like science deniers
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-01-2019 10:58 PM)
Ehh not a fan.... just another jewish actor...
but i am fascinated by this trump derangement syndrome. He could be saving babies from a fire and people would demonize him. Ehhh shows the power of msm.

Is the term TDS back-up by real medical science?

Nope. Thanks for providing a really good example.
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RE: 5 ways Trump and his cult are like science deniers
Fork  Wrote: (12-01-2019 11:01 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-01-2019 10:58 PM)
Ehh not a fan.... just another jewish actor...
but i am fascinated by this trump derangement syndrome. He could be saving babies from a fire and people would demonize him. Ehhh shows the power of msm.

Is the term TDS back-up by real medical science?

Nope. Thanks for providing a really good example.

Lol thankyou too
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RE: 5 ways Trump and his cult are like science deniers
As I told elderbitch earlier...





Oh sh*t, looks like I forgot to mention the something...

Oh right, if you have 0 dimensions, you have a point, if you have 1 dimensions, you have a line, if you have 2 dimensions, you have a triangle, if you have 3 dimensions, you have a triangle. If you have 4 dimensions however, you're still wrong. It's very simplex.
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RE: 5 ways Trump and his cult are like science deniers
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-01-2019 11:00 PM)
What's a science denier?

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7...bly-wrong/

https://phoreveryoung.wordpress.com/tag/...-is-wrong/

You must be a Trump university graduate. I'm sure you are very proud!

How cute.
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RE: 5 ways Trump and his cult are like science deniers
Fork  Wrote: (12-01-2019 11:01 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-01-2019 10:58 PM)
Ehh not a fan.... just another jewish actor...
but i am fascinated by this trump derangement syndrome. He could be saving babies from a fire and people would demonize him. Ehhh shows the power of msm.

Is the term TDS back-up by real medical science?

Nope. Thanks for providing a really good example.

HF I've seen people use TDS monitoring gadgets on soil and stuff. I f*cking laughed at that idea. Like they think that sh*t means anything.
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RE: 5 ways Trump and his cult are like science deniers
Fork  Wrote: (12-01-2019 11:04 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-01-2019 11:00 PM)
What's a science denier?

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn7...bly-wrong/

https://phoreveryoung.wordpress.com/tag/...-is-wrong/

You must be a Trump university graduate. I'm sure you are very proud!

How cute.

Actually I'm an ancient geometer/physicist/coder/alchemyholical

I disapprove of Guanold Dump. But certainly, are you suggesting the science on the lancet and the science on that other sh*t, which a random site which referenced a more important science site or source, I guess, is wrong?
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RE: 5 ways Trump and his cult are like science deniers
Good points. 5* thanks for posting that. Hugs Cheer Jhikpghf

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Seems the Bot crowd is thick lately. Worried about the pending investigations and impeachments and getting extra oil drops in their bot joints for their effort. Jhikpghf

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