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If You could, How would you Reform Your Prison Sytem?
James
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RE: If You could, How would you Reform Your Prison Sytem?
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Fork  Wrote: (12-02-2019 05:17 PM)
If smaller drug crimes were moved into a new mental health category and treated as addictions with the appropriate treatment, this would drastically reduce the prison population.

Economic and social environments are the primary reason for crime. So, the notion of environment vs genetics should be used to create new paradigms for society.

Violent repeat offenders have a low probability of rehabilitation and those types of offenders are the ones in need of imprisonment. Repeat Violent offenders are most likely to have the genetic disposition to be violent.

I hear you...It's a scam. So let's take low-risk offenders and you wind up in my Prison System. None of that lounging about all day....When you get into my system as an offender you are basically walking into a 6-8 job. Up in the morning at 6 and it's "off to work you go", then home (in your cell at 8) where you get the meal and bed you earned. Remember this is a sanction. The money you earned goes to board and lodging expenses, a stipend for luxuries ,depending on your work performance that work day, and any excess back into the system/ to public investors....by public investors I'd finance that national system like the elites finance their wars, by offering Investment/national bonds only to working class members of the public who earn under a certain income. No big Corporations get in.

“We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent.”

~ James Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, appearance before the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations
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12-02-2019 05:44 PM

 




Post: #17
RE: If You could, How would you Reform Your Prison Sytem?
Don't worry, as the totalitarian China System is already here.
You will get exactly what you want and expect.
Everyone is a Prisoner and lives in small cages and 'works' for the prison system.


A very good solution for you. As stated.
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Post: #18
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Ohno the small high window with only wind coming inside, if not closed forever /:
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RE: If You could, How would you Reform Your Prison Sytem?
James  Wrote: (12-02-2019 05:37 PM)
Fork  Wrote: (12-02-2019 05:17 PM)
If smaller drug crimes were moved into a new mental health category and treated as addictions with the appropriate treatment, this would drastically reduce the prison population.

Economic and social environments are the primary reason for crime. So, the notion of environment vs genetics should be used to create new paradigms for society.

Violent repeat offenders have a low probability of rehabilitation and those types of offenders are the ones in need of imprisonment. Repeat Violent offenders are most likely to have the genetic disposition to be violent.

I hear you...It's a scam. So let's take low-risk offenders and you wind up in my Prison System. None of that lounging about all day....When you get into my system as an offender you are basically walking into a 6-8 job. Up in the morning at 6 and it's "off to work you go", then home (in your cell at 8) where you get the meal and bed you earned. Remember this is a sanction. The money you earned goes to board and lodging expenses, a stipend for luxuries ,depending on your perform that work day, and any excess back into the system/ to public investors....by public investors I'd finance that national system like the elites finance their wars, by offering Investment/national bonds only to working class members of the public who earn under a certain income. No big Corporations get in.

How many times have you heard the UK/US needs 3rd world immigrants becos they do the Jerbs no one wants to do? So in my Corporate National/ Public financed Prison system (with Plep investment returns obviously/for profit), the Prison Population takes up that slack while paying back the little voters and taxpayers they offended against. Prison Cleaners and Farm-hands etc. paying for their crimes with a full days work, and paying for their Prison Board and lodging, and into the Public tax-system.

“We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent.”

~ James Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, appearance before the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations
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James  Wrote: (12-02-2019 05:59 PM)
James  Wrote: (12-02-2019 05:37 PM)
I hear you...It's a scam. So let's take low-risk offenders and you wind up in my Prison System. None of that lounging about all day....When you get into my system as an offender you are basically walking into a 6-8 job. Up in the morning at 6 and it's "off to work you go", then home (in your cell at 8) where you get the meal and bed you earned. Remember this is a sanction. The money you earned goes to board and lodging expenses, a stipend for luxuries ,depending on your perform that work day, and any excess back into the system/ to public investors....by public investors I'd finance that national system like the elites finance their wars, by offering Investment/national bonds only to working class members of the public who earn under a certain income. No big Corporations get in.

How many times have you heard the UK/US needs 3rd world immigrants becos they do the Jerbs no one wants to do? So in my Corporate National/ Public financed Prison system (with Plep investment returns obviously/for profit), the Prison Population takes up that slack while paying back the little voters and taxpayers they offended against. Prison Cleaners and Farm-hands etc. paying for their crimes with a full days work, and paying for their Prison Board and lodging, and into the Public tax-system.

So let's up the ante in my Profitable National Prison System, financed by like Tesco and McDonald minimum wage earners (for a maybe 5% return on their 3 Pound pm Investment per annum)
...And a Clown like Usman Khan and the like enters my For-profit Public Financed Prison system. No more sitting around all day plotting Jihad....6 am the Prison Alarm goes off and Usam is out of bed, hurriedly doing the morning thing before a full day of work. with his Supervisor chasing his ass to get those number plates out on dead-line. At the end of the day Usman gets back to his cell, has a few pennies for a coke, and has contributed to the UK tax-system and his Employers, the working class folk who invested in Usman's full day of work like the rest of us. Usman is now a real worker... and my System has Usman's full attention.

“We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent.”

~ James Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, appearance before the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations
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Post: #21
RE: If You could, How would you Reform Your Prison Sytem?
James  Wrote: (12-02-2019 04:56 PM)
This on the back of the horrific events in London. So something is not working with the UK Prison System. Just as a matter of interest: how would you make Your Prison system work?

Any Ideas?


Death penalty for unrepentant murderers,

Turn the rest into a work community that has to work and manufacture goods
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RE: If You could, How would you Reform Your Prison Sytem?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-02-2019 06:42 PM)
James  Wrote: (12-02-2019 04:56 PM)
This on the back of the horrific events in London. So something is not working with the UK Prison System. Just as a matter of interest: how would you make Your Prison system work?

Any Ideas?


Death penalty for unrepentant murderers,

Turn the rest into a work community that has to work and manufacture goods

This^

post of the day

The UK has a work force just waiting to be put into Public service with enormous National tax-return potential...but what are the UK system thinkers' doing from Cambridge U ....getting stabbed to death at prison "Let's Work Together" Seminars, and putting the rest of the UK Public at risk as they go down screaming and trying to reason with the lazy unreasonable....all payed for by the little Brit Voters and Taxpayers.

“We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent.”

~ James Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, appearance before the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations
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Post: #23
RE: If You could, How would you Reform Your Prison Sytem?
5* thread. pin requested.



The first way to improve prisons is to make sure the private for profit prison system is abolished and legislated out of existence.

The immediate thing to do is make sure not prison corporations, wardens, local sheriffs, etc. have any way to skimp on jail or prison resources for personal gains. Jails and prisons should be run by government agencies and looked over carefully and regulated and made sure the prison population is not being abused.

Lots of other reforms should be adopted by looking nationally and internationally at the best prison systems with the best outcomes and best practices.

Getting rid of all capitol punishment in every nation is a good goal also.

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RE: If You could, How would you Reform Your Prison Sytem?
Exile worked pretty well.

Penitentiaries have always been a failure.

The problem with exile however is you need land that isn't already inhabited.

Which is fertile.

For minor offenses neither is appropriate.

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RE: If You could, How would you Reform Your Prison Sytem?
He Man  Wrote: (12-02-2019 07:07 PM)
5* thread. pin requested.



The first way to improve prisons is to make sure the private for profit prison system is abolished and legislated out of existence.

The immediate thing to do is make sure not prison corporations, wardens, local sheriffs, etc. have any way to skimp on jail or prison resources for personal gains. Jails and prisons should be run by government agencies and looked over carefully and regulated and made sure the prison population is not being abused.

Lots of other reforms should be adopted by looking nationally and internationally at the best prison systems with the best outcomes and best practices.

Getting rid of all capitol punishment in every nation is a good goal also.

Great post as well! Not so sure about getting rid of Capital Punishment tho. (in the era of DNA forensics and recorded Video surveillance) It's time to start making the Lazy global Prison Population pay their way and pay society back...financially!

“We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent.”

~ James Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, appearance before the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations
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RE: If You could, How would you Reform Your Prison Sytem?
James  Wrote: (12-02-2019 04:56 PM)
This on the back of the horrific events in London. So something is not working with the UK Prison System. Just as a matter of interest: how would you make Your Prison system work?

Any Ideas?



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Post: #27
RE: If You could, How would you Reform Your Prison Sytem?
Well ,All predators who frighten us all ….execution by shooting ...including paedophiles ,rapists who attack on the streets, maybe people traffickers and drug sellers.....If not deported and permanently excluded from UK.

That would save a lot and as you see it is a complete waste of time and money trying to cure them.

Illegal immigrants deported and refused entry ever again.

Then the really petty criminals who are pests ..hard labour like the Victorian times which consisted of walking in a cubicle looking at a bare wall all day .This was actually for fairly short times but tiring and boring .
For fraud.... taking all the money they stole away from them and having to help in the community .Cleaning up dog's muck on footpaths for instance .Picking up plastics and rubbish .

The boy racers in a nearby city were cured by going to a centre where they learnt to mend cars with ex military men running it.

Start a national service scheme but leave out the shooting . Which also had illiteracy lessons including maths and money sense training and training in useful hands on jobs .

Violent partners and such like... beaten up....that I expect is what would have happened in the past .I know my father would have done that if anyone had hurt me .

The Russians killed all the Nazis they encountered at the end of WW2 ..ISIS need to be executed too. Evil monsters they are.
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As we saw recently in London, when the elite thinkers for our Prison Systems fail, it does not affect our s/elected Public Service elites and their wealthy Corporate Donors, but us down here. Thanks for the pin!

Thanks He Man.

“We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent.”

~ James Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, appearance before the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations
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it is quite therapeutic writing this. It feels like Justice is not being done here at the moment. What ever they are doing it is not working .

They used to say kill or cure...There is no cure happening. Apparently a few years ago illiteracy was running at 40% in prisons .

We need to deport that annoying muslim priest that the murderer was hanging out with and all his friends. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the ordinary muslims are bullied by them.

I also think we should follow the other countries in Europe who have banned the burka that covers the face completely in public..We banned hoodies and motor cycle helmets because of the fact the face is hidden. So we should ban it too.. and the letter box burka is a sign of affiliation to ISIS .
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I would make all the punishments a spanking

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