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If You could, How would you Reform Your Prison Sytem?
James
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This on the back of the horrific events in London. So something is not working with the UK Prison System. Just as a matter of interest: how would you make Your Prison system work?

Any Ideas?

“Moths, and all sorts of ugly creatures," replied Estella, with a glance towards him, "hover about a lighted candle. Can the candle help it?”
― Charles Dickens
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12-02-2019 05:08 PM

 




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RE: If You could, How would you Reform Your Prison Sytem?
Probably by abolishing the world and most of its invalid laws, rejecting industrialism in general, I mean other than entirely annihilating the prison systems.
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RE: If You could, How would you Reform Your Prison Sytem?
Why am I "here"? You(')r(e) "here" I hear you ask?
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RE: If You could, How would you Reform Your Prison Sytem?
More concisely...





This is my "erf", as the Boer would say.
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RE: If You could, How would you Reform Your Prison Sytem?
Its just as miserable and unconditionally hard for me to manipulate your immune system, prison system, reform system or denial system from here. So, my default answer is presumably, Yes.

Meaning, You cannot be found guilty of tampering, but Yes seeks to be useful.
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RE: If You could, How would you Reform Your Prison Sytem?
After I get out of Prison, I would be offered an Federal Job, like with National Security, as I can see that it would be an appropriate position, having done my time already, with good behavior. I have found life very harsh in the penitentiary ridden with bugs and very undesirable inmates and guards. Not to mention the lack of basically everything a human being needs, directly causing overall demise, personally. Also, everything I ever had, has been long gone, and I wouldn't expect that to return ever, even though I accumulated very little, if anything at all. Never getting a fair chance at anything, things only work one way here. It will never get any better, it can only get worse, that has been my experience. It is as if the normal rules do not apply to me anymore, like if you work hard, and do your job, everything will be fine. The first thing they did was make sure I can earn no income ever again. And that has been this way for over a decade. And if I do earn anything, or even if anything is given to me, it gets taken away promptly by waiting vultures and criminals. It did not used to be this way, but now it is like an alternate reality where everything always gets worse and nothing ever gets any better, and any chance at all of improving conditions have expired a long long time ago, as I have seen no different. It is a shame really. I could have done much better. But that boot they stomp you with is permanent. And no good ever happens again for the individual involved. They have whole fusion centers that insure and guarantee and target and enforce that. So I would not expect anything to change ever for the future. Why would I.
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RE: If You could, How would you Reform Your Prison Sytem?
The Americans have a plan I like. You turn your Prison system into a business, but the only problem the Yanks have is Private Corporate Investment or Privatized prisons, which don't work either becos Once big money/investment is involved running Public Utilities and Services their MO is to reduce expenses to maximize their profit, thereby becoming the equivalent of Corporate Vampires: they buy up and suck the system dry and then the Public is forced to Bail-out or buy back/re-Nationalize the husk.

But if we look at one great success of a profitable National Service then the Royal Postal serve was it! So profitable in fact it was pawned off finally for pennies to the Pound to the Private Sector and was immediately sucked dry by the British Public Service Elites and their Corporate Masters.

“Moths, and all sorts of ugly creatures," replied Estella, with a glance towards him, "hover about a lighted candle. Can the candle help it?”
― Charles Dickens
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RE: If You could, How would you Reform Your Prison Sytem?
If smaller drug crimes were moved into a new mental health category and treated as addictions with the appropriate treatment, this would drastically reduce the prison population.

Economic and social environments are the primary reason for crime. So, the notion of environment vs genetics should be used to create new paradigms for society.

Violent repeat offenders have a low probability of rehabilitation and those types of offenders are the ones in need of imprisonment. Repeat Violent offenders are most likely to have the genetic disposition to be violent.
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RE: If You could, How would you Reform Your Prison Sytem?
I like how you guys still try to ignore and deflect.
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It's particularly ironic, considering James is supposed to be an "upstanding" South African choirboy.
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RE: If You could, How would you Reform Your Prison Sytem?
Fork  Wrote: (12-02-2019 05:17 PM)
If smaller drug crimes were moved into a new mental health category and treated as addictions with the appropriate treatment, this would drastically reduce the prison population.

Economic and social environments are the primary reason for crime. So, the notion of environment vs genetics should be used to create new paradigms for society.

Violent repeat offenders have a low probability of rehabilitation and those types of offenders are the ones in need of imprisonment. Repeat Violent offenders are most likely to have the genetic disposition to be violent.

If you remove the possibility of having the drugs in the first place, you wouldnt need to enforce nor create any 'new' categories. I for one, wonder whom are these people that provide the drugs in the first place, and then seek to treat 'mental illness'.

I think we both know whom are the suppliers and prison reformers treating the illness. cough.

we should be more like mexico.

Oh, thats right, we invented it.

fify

your alinksy is showing again
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RE: If You could, How would you Reform Your Prison Sytem?
Moth..er..Fast..er...Slow, er, fat her.
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RE: If You could, How would you Reform Your Prison Sytem?
Use a claw hammer inbetween while he's demolishing something to fit in its car carage thing
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RE: If You could, How would you Reform Your Prison Sytem?
Moths are always drawn to the light. Almost like sheep, which I happen have a farming monoply on. Even in Australia.
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RE: If You could, How would you Reform Your Prison Sytem?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (12-02-2019 05:31 PM)
Use a claw hammer inbetween while he's demolishing something to fit in its car carage thing

Carriage/garage? Either way, I'm going, drinking and driving.
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