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Do you support the Buffet rule?
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Post: #91
RE: Do you support the Buffet rule?
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Wyldflwr  Wrote: (04-17-2012 03:04 AM)
No. I do not support it. Here's why:

Unless you are in an hourly-wage job, and sometimes even then, there are a LOT of loopholes through which you can legally get out of some of your tax liability.

Getting 15% of a multi-million dollar income is way better than giving a tax refund to 150,000,000 Americans.

People with more money tend spend more money. If I can take 10% of my tax burden away, that means I waltz down to the dealership and take possession of that lightly used S63 instead of putting it off, giving tons of money in taxes, service, tires and lots of gasoline.


That being said, I think there should be a 10% flat tax rate at the Federal level for all income brackets, with exceptions given at below $40,000/annum (gross). Giving our federal gov't more money definitely doesn't mean that we will all of a sudden be running a surplus and get out of debt. They will spend it on retarded wars of conquest and spending millions of dollars on studying how often wild geese f*#k when they are drunk (or other colossal waste of money)
So 2 of your logic points:
- Don't fix any loopholes if you cannot fix all loopholes.
- Don't increase rich peoples tax and maybe lower poor peoples tax, because if it means more money goes to the federal government it will not change anything about the deficit but bring more war.

So do nothing...

You should ask wages from some rich person for your work for their agenda.

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Post: #92
RE: Do you support the Buffet rule?
Buffet Rules:


Take all you want but eat all you take

Use a clean plate each time

No taking leftovers home

No sneezing
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Post: #93
RE: Do you support the Buffet rule?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-17-2012 03:28 AM)
So 2 of your logic points:
- Don't fix any loopholes if you cannot fix all loopholes.
- Don't increase rich peoples tax and maybe lower poor peoples tax, because if it means more money goes to the federal government it will not change anything about the deficit but bring more war.

So do nothing...

You should ask wages from some rich person for your work for their agenda.


I see your view, but here's how I feel:
There will always be loopholes, one way or another. Next year I could get taxed at ~40% on short term gains. Answer? Register a business in Malaysia - now I pay <12% with no US tax liability, so this country gets nothing. Is that "patriotic"? No. Does it make my life a lot better? Hell yes!

Increasing the tax rate will only drive more money overseas where it isn't taxed as heavily. That's why there aren't as many good paying jobs now as there were 30 years ago.


On your second point, starving the federal gov't of cash is a good way to stop the existing wars that we're in. Why fund a bunch of nonsense that gives you and me no benefit? The gov't spends least efficiently. Frankly I'd rather pay the state 15% and the feds 5% since more will be done for the community and state gov'ts are slightly less corrupt than federal.

I'm all for lowering taxes because it always works to bring a more prosperous society (banks and gov't "lifers" can go get a real job)
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Post: #94
RE: Do you support the Buffet rule?
Wyldflwr  Wrote: (04-17-2012 04:33 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-17-2012 03:28 AM)
So 2 of your logic points:
- Don't fix any loopholes if you cannot fix all loopholes.
- Don't increase rich peoples tax and maybe lower poor peoples tax, because if it means more money goes to the federal government it will not change anything about the deficit but bring more war.

So do nothing...

You should ask wages from some rich person for your work for their agenda.


I see your view, but here's how I feel:
There will always be loopholes, one way or another. Next year I could get taxed at ~40% on short term gains. Answer? Register a business in Malaysia - now I pay <12% with no US tax liability, so this country gets nothing. Is that "patriotic"? No. Does it make my life a lot better? Hell yes!

Increasing the tax rate will only drive more money overseas where it isn't taxed as heavily. That's why there aren't as many good paying jobs now as there were 30 years ago.


On your second point, starving the federal gov't of cash is a good way to stop the existing wars that we're in. Why fund a bunch of nonsense that gives you and me no benefit? The gov't spends least efficiently. Frankly I'd rather pay the state 15% and the feds 5% since more will be done for the community and state gov'ts are slightly less corrupt than federal.

I'm all for lowering taxes because it always works to bring a more prosperous society (banks and gov't "lifers" can go get a real job)

You make some solid points... Increasing taxes has caused money to go out of the country and sadly the measures taken or threats of measures to be taken caused a lot of manufacturing business to leave america ...

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04-17-2012 07:30 AM

 



Post: #95
RE: Do you support the Buffet rule?
is the buffet rule where you can't eat more than three dishes per paid plate?

and does this apply to chinese buffet or was that take out?
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Post: #96
RE: Do you support the Buffet rule?
hehe JptdknpaJptdknpaJptdknpa

this entire thread is a shill fest....right?

there just can't be this many sheeped out chimps on a conspiracy forum...can there ???
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Post: #97
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PizzaPhace  Wrote: (04-17-2012 07:30 AM)
is the buffet rule where you can't eat more than three dishes per paid plate?

and does this apply to chinese buffet or was that take out?

It has to be takeout .... ya just can't take that stuff in without self inflicted fortification measures ... chuckle

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Post: #98
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-17-2012 07:32 AM)
hehe JptdknpaJptdknpaJptdknpa

this entire thread is a shill fest....right?

there just can't be this many sheeped out chimps on a conspiracy forum...can there ???

Hell no... we is waiting fer the rules ... Anon

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Post: #99
RE: Do you support the Buffet rule?
JH Unplugged  Wrote: (04-17-2012 07:33 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-17-2012 07:32 AM)
hehe JptdknpaJptdknpaJptdknpa

this entire thread is a shill fest....right?

there just can't be this many sheeped out chimps on a conspiracy forum...can there ???

Hell no... we is waiting fer the rules ... Anon

aha' chimped out sheep...got it....we're paying for your gas and bills
CountFapula
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Post: #100
RE: Do you support the Buffet rule?
JH Unplugged  Wrote: (04-17-2012 07:33 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (04-17-2012 07:32 AM)
hehe JptdknpaJptdknpaJptdknpa

this entire thread is a shill fest....right?

there just can't be this many sheeped out chimps on a conspiracy forum...can there ???

Hell no... we is waiting fer the rules ... Anon

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04-17-2012 07:44 AM

 



Post: #101
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Outside of the Conspiracy angle, I wouldn't support any sort of rule that is named after one of the rich. Its just too ridiculous and when held up in front of the Mirror of Reality, it reads "More money for us, less for them." Not a Communist by any rate, just would sort of like to see more out there making enough to make ends meet. Ron Paul is *definitely* not the answer.

If Ron Paul gets elected, we go Communist. What happened to Cuba is a very good lesson one should learn until it is fried onto their neural networks. Cuba was having economic and finanicial troubles like are big time. The populace were screaming for someone to handle things better. Fidel Castro said he would fix things and everything would be perfectly fine. In 1959 he became President. Cuba became Communist (and a whole lot of other things too).

Same thing will happen if Ron Paul is elected. I don't trust him at all and neither should anyone. Changing from Independent to Republican doesn't mean anything. Once he's elected he changes parties to Communist and we are Red. No voting for him!

Now if there was a rule for deliberately lowering prices at all Chinese super buffets, then yeah I will definitely support that! lol
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Post: #102
RE: Do you support the Buffet rule?
Sitting Lunatic  Wrote: (04-17-2012 07:44 AM)
Now if there was a rule for deliberately lowering prices at all Chinese super buffets, then yeah I will definitely support that! lol

for the win Lmao
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04-17-2012 07:56 AM

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Post: #103
RE: Do you support the Buffet rule?
We have a spending problem, not a taxation problem.

We could give them 90% of our earnings and they would still find a way to need more. Government ONLY looks to grow.
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Post: #104
devil RE: Do you support the Buffet rule?
PizzaPhace  Wrote: (04-17-2012 07:47 AM)
Sitting Lunatic  Wrote: (04-17-2012 07:44 AM)
Now if there was a rule for deliberately lowering prices at all Chinese super buffets, then yeah I will definitely support that! lol

for the win Lmao

Oh but of course! That food can be quite good! Fattening maybe, but good! So bring down the prices and all will be well! Or make it a Constitutional Amendment! Or something along those lines... Lol
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Post: #105
RE: Do you support the Buffet rule?
LooneyBin  Wrote: (04-17-2012 07:56 AM)
We have a spending problem, not a taxation problem.

We could give them 90% of our earnings and they would still find a way to need more. Government ONLY looks to grow.

This hits the nail directly on the head ... Jhikpghf

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