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Banning Assault Rifles Will Decrease Mass Shootings
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RE: Banning Assault Rifles Will Decrease Mass Shootings
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In active service (some branches or limited roles)

M16A4 (5.56×45mm NATO) (USMC, US Army)[17]
M16A3 (5.56×45mm NATO) (USN SEALs and USN Seabees)
M16A2 (5.56×45mm NATO) (USAF, USCG, and US Army Training/Reserve/National Guard)
M27 IAR (Infantry Automatic Rifle) (5.56×45mm NATO) (USMC Automatic Rifleman)
M38 SDMR (Squad Designated Marksman Rifle) (5.56×45mm NATO) (USMC Designated Marksmen)
HK417 (7.62×51mm NATO) (USSOCOM)
Mk 17 Mod 0 (7.62×51mm NATO) (USSOCOM)
Mk 14 EBR (Enhanced Battle Rifle) (7.62×51mm NATO) (USCG, US Army, USAF Designated Marksmen/EOD)
M39 Enhanced Marksman Rifle (7.62 NATO) (USMC Designated Marksmen/Scout Snipers)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Miller

United States v. Miller United States Supreme Court Ruling that affirmed the Second Amendment reserves to the American people military arms equal to those of the standing army.

http://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/.../case.html

John Bad Elk v. United States - 177 U.S. 529 (1900) United States Supreme Court Decision affirming a citizens right to tresist with lethal force infringement of their civil rights, in this specific case, arrest without probable cause.

http://www.examiner.com/article/us-supre...on-is-void

5 U.S. 137 Marbury v. MadisonUnited States Supreme Court Decision that all laws which violate the constitution are automatically void.
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Post: #32
RE: Banning Assault Rifles Will Decrease Mass Shootings
Bronco Bama  Wrote: (03-12-2018 07:41 AM)
The gun nuts claim that a determined enough shooter will obtain a gun no matter what, which is true, but by making them difficult to get, you definitely decrease the overall number of mass shooters. This is evident when you look at other developed nations that have since banned assault rifles, like Australia and the UK. The number of mass shootings from assault rifles per 1,000 people in AUS and the UK is tiny compared to the U.S.

OP loves to suck Obama d*ck, and Obama loved to suck Israeli d*ck.

Second Amendment and all that.



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Post: #33
RE: Banning Assault Rifles Will Decrease Mass Shootings
Spoons contribute to obesity which leads to diabetes and heart disease.

Ban Assault Spoons.
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03-12-2018 11:43 AM

 



Post: #34
RE: Banning Assault Rifles Will Decrease Mass Shootings
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-12-2018 11:29 AM)
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (03-12-2018 11:11 AM)
well you are quite correct in saying that is a logically faulty way to start an argument.. we have all been guilty of that from time to time.

in anticipation of the only responses to certain topics is a big factor for this vapid framing of a proposition.., the push to extremes works quite well this way , wouldn't you say?

that said.. it doesn't negate from the crux of the topic.

and that is; less publicly owned assault weapons leads to less mass shooting deaths and even I am going to add, the likelihood of such undertakings by individuals being viable.
[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D.C._sniper_attacks
possible argument[/url] as a situation/event that did terrorize and kill many and could of been much much worse as opposed to

omg.. they are all staged with paid actors,you moron !

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm

Number of deaths for leading causes of death:

Heart disease: 633,842
Cancer: 595,930
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 155,041
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 146,571
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 140,323
Alzheimer’s disease: 110,561
Diabetes: 79,535
Influenza and Pneumonia: 57,062
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome and nephrosis: 49,959
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 44,193

Firearms only make the top ten if you include suicide as a factor. Someone who is suicidal will find a way. Personal experience with a cousin but that won't interest you because it doesn't advance your argument and can't be verified without me Doxxing myself.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/201...0-2014.xls

Weapons 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014

Rifles 367 332 298 285 248
Blunt objects 549 502 522 428 435
Knives 1,732 1,716 1,604 1,490 1,567

You are correct. America must first ban donuts. I have seen Krispy Kreme, those things are f*cking evil. Oh and get out of your cars and walk or cycle somewhere for a change.
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Post: #35
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And there is no constitutional amendment protecting high calorie snack food so shut your damn pie holes.
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Post: #36
RE: Banning Assault Rifles Will Decrease Mass Shootings
I help with range and firearm safety for small groups on weekends. One of those groups is the Pink Pistols branch for my state. Another is the Aphrodite Shooters out of Knoxville.

I'd trust fully automatic military grade weapons in their hands before I'd put so much as a rubber band with an unfolded paper clip in the OPs hand.
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Post: #37
RE: Banning Assault Rifles Will Decrease Mass Shootings
There are no mass shootings in Japan because it's impossible to buy guns of any kind. There are only mass stabbings. Jhikpghf
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Post: #38
RE: Banning Assault Rifles Will Decrease Mass Shootings
LOP Secret Agent  Wrote: (03-12-2018 12:00 PM)
There are no mass shootings in Japan because it's impossible to buy guns of any kind. There are only mass stabbings. Jhikpghf

Yea, and mass sarin gass attacks, or trucks.

But generally speaking the Japanese have a pretty low rate of crime.
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Post: #39
RE: Banning Assault Rifles Will Decrease Mass Shootings
The argument for conformation/confirmation bias is BS
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of course there are millions of owners of high grade weaponry you can trust.. but that really does not validate having society saturated with them.

stay on the objective.

again these appeals to subjective bias are logical fallacy=propaganda


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Post: #40
RE: Banning Assault Rifles Will Decrease Mass Shootings
Logros  Wrote: (03-12-2018 12:07 PM)
LOP Secret Agent  Wrote: (03-12-2018 12:00 PM)
There are no mass shootings in Japan because it's impossible to buy guns of any kind. There are only mass stabbings. Jhikpghf

Yea, and mass sarin gass attacks, or trucks.

But generally speaking the Japanese have a pretty low rate of crime.

It's the culture. Ethnically Japan is 98+% Japanese and they tend to be very conscious of authority over there.

They have strict immigration laws that they actually enforce.

Suicide is the proper response to disappointing your family not further disappointing them by killing others for your own failures.
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RE: Banning Assault Rifles Will Decrease Mass Shootings
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (03-12-2018 12:10 PM)
The argument for conformation/confirmation bias is BS
link to image: http://www.chroniclesofstrength.com/uplo...17.jpg?341

of course there are millions of owners of high grade weaponry you can trust.. but that really does not validate having society saturated with them.

stay on the objective.

again these appeals to subjective bias are logical fallacy=propaganda

Fallacy? I'd trust those millions with military grade heavy weapons before putting a rubber band in your hands.

There is a reason they call it a 'civilian version' AC. It's because it is less powerful and the government is afraid to give the civilians the real thing despite a Supreme Court ruling stating that civilians should be able to own actual 'high grade' weapons comparable to what the military has.

You whinge about 'confirmation bias' but you automatically do it to press your control freak narrative.
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03-12-2018 12:20 PM

 



Post: #42
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You have been presented with actual facts. A multitude of links to various sources providing you information.

You post a meme about whatever that is supposed to be about to distract and derail the conversation you allege the OP wanted instead of discussing the facts.

That's why we need the 2nd. To keep people like you from doing whatever the heck you want, when you want to do it, to the detriment of those who would end up your victims. If you're willing to blatantly deny facts to push a control narrative the way you have on this thread then I don't want you anywhere near a firearm and I'll hang on to mine thank you very much.
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Post: #43
RE: Banning Assault Rifles Will Decrease Mass Shootings
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-12-2018 12:11 PM)
Logros  Wrote: (03-12-2018 12:07 PM)
Yea, and mass sarin gass attacks, or trucks.

But generally speaking the Japanese have a pretty low rate of crime.

It's the culture. Ethnically Japan is 98+% Japanese and they tend to be very conscious of authority over there.

They have strict immigration laws that they actually enforce.

Suicide is the proper response to disappointing your family not further disappointing them by killing others for your own failures.

correct... the cultural values are very different to most other western democracy nations but the people that disarmed them in the late 40's were?

Places like Australia and the UK , Canada maybe not so much but NZ and places in were eradicating sidearms from society slowly after WW1 WW2 putting a hiatus on that but went back to gradual civilian disarmament after that especially in urban areas.

Japan were pretty much swept into that post war period.

This is what makes the US different .. no one really looks at the factors as to why this ramping up of publicly owned arms beyond the constitutional arguments and the fact there is already so many the tipping points were reached decades ago.

But here we are..

we may as well be arguing against letting rocket launchers and hand grenades be freely available to all..


chuckle
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Post: #44
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Bronco Bama  Wrote: (03-12-2018 07:41 AM)
The gun nuts claim that a determined enough shooter will obtain a gun no matter what, which is true, but by making them difficult to get, you definitely decrease the overall number of mass shooters. This is evident when you look at other developed nations that have since banned assault rifles, like Australia and the UK. The number of mass shootings from assault rifles per 1,000 people in AUS and the UK is tiny compared to the U.S.

I already provided the solution for schools
http://lunaticoutpost.com/thread-12414.html

You can drop your stupid agenda.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-12-2018 12:20 PM)
That's why we need the 2nd. To keep people like you from doing whatever the heck you want, when you want to do it, to the detriment of those who would end up your victims.

That is interesting.. the victims I wish to see are people less terrorized by half a dozen mass shootings a year and they are the citizens in the US including yourself , sir

Anon

I propose no political solution or constitutional change.. the object of the discussion is to rationally find a viewpoint as to why banning assault weapons in some countries has prevented the number of mass shootings that are disproportionately and tragically obvious.

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