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Banning Assault Rifles Will Decrease Mass Shootings
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03-15-2018 03:54 PM

 



Post: #166
RE: Banning Assault Rifles Will Decrease Mass Shootings
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spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (03-12-2018 09:46 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-12-2018 08:00 AM)
Bronco is prolly the only idiot on LOP that believes all these shootings were legit !

How does that statement support or oppose the idea that less assault weapons in society in the hands of the general public make mass killings with these weapons less likely?

What real point is there to continuing to try and argue every fkn position with retarded fallacy?

you do the opposing argument no favors by using bandwagon appeals to bias and attacking the OP's proposition with tu quoque and ad hom.


what you basically say when you do this is :
I have got nothing.
but you are wrong.
#1- shall not be infringed upon is pretty straight forward.

#2- Bronco makes itself a damn easy target for character assassination.

#3- Anything, even a rock or a spoon, if used to attack someone, is an assault weapon.

#4- Most killings are not committed by "assault rifles"

#5- Most anti-weapon crybabies have never held a gun and base their fear on government agendas, presstitute lies, propaganda and fake deaths. Building a case based on lies is invalid and dangerous.

Please review #1.
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03-15-2018 04:01 PM

 



Post: #167
RE: Banning Assault Rifles Will Decrease Mass Shootings
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-14-2018 06:37 AM)
Bronco Bama  Wrote: (03-14-2018 02:55 AM)
Guns need to be treated as a privilege, like driving. Anything that isn't a registered self-defense pistol needs to be outlawed, and anyone caught trafficking firearms needs to be treated with the same draconian measures with which we treat kiddie porn traffickers.

Control freaks are gonna control freak. They just gotta tell people what to do.

Driving should not be a privilege either. Without driving, your right to travel freely is vastly restricted. I cannot get on my horse or pack up a covered wagon and hitch a team or safely walk wherever on publik roads without some regulation of harassment.

So many people have zero clue what it means to be free.
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Look_No_Hands_
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Post: #168
RE: Banning Assault Rifles Will Decrease Mass Shootings
Same old nonsense from the gun nuts.
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03-16-2018 10:32 PM

 



Post: #169
RE: Banning Assault Rifles Will Decrease Mass Shootings
There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed. The U.S. population is 324,059,091 as of June 22, 2016. Do the math: 0.00925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant! What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death: • 65% of those deaths are by suicide, which would never be prevented by gun laws. • 15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified. • 17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons – better known as gun violence. • 3% are accidental discharge deaths. So technically, "gun violence" is not 30,000 annually, but drops to 5,100.

Still too many? Now lets look at how those deaths spanned across the nation. • 480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago • 344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore • 333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit • 119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (a 54% increase over prior years) So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have strict gun laws, so it is not the lack of law that is the root cause. This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California had 1,169 and Alabama had 1. Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course, but understand, it is not guns causing this. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So if all cities and states are not created equal, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths. Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assault are all done by criminals. It is ludicrous to think that criminals will obey laws. That is why they are called criminals.

But what about other deaths each year? • 40,000+ die from a drug overdose–THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT! • 36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths. • 34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide). Now it gets good: • 200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors. You are safer walking in the worst areas of Chicago than you are when you are in a hospital! • 710,000 people die per year from heart disease. It’s time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So what is the point? If the liberal loons and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.). A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total number of gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides ................ Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions!

So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns? It's pretty simple: Taking away guns gives control to governments. The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace. Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs. So the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed." It’s not the lack of laws, it’s lack of Morality."
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03-16-2018 10:37 PM

 



Post: #170
RE: Banning Assault Rifles Will Decrease Mass Shootings
Bronco Bama  Wrote: (03-16-2018 10:30 PM)
Same old nonsense from the gun nuts.

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 16 of the United States Constitution.

They are to organize, arm, and train the people.

You don't get to make new laws when you can't even follow the existing laws.
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03-16-2018 10:37 PM

 



Post: #171
RE: Banning Assault Rifles Will Decrease Mass Shootings
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-16-2018 10:32 PM)
There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed. The U.S. population is 324,059,091 as of June 22, 2016. Do the math: 0.00925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant! What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death: • 65% of those deaths are by suicide, which would never be prevented by gun laws. • 15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified. • 17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons – better known as gun violence. • 3% are accidental discharge deaths. So technically, "gun violence" is not 30,000 annually, but drops to 5,100.

Still too many? Now lets look at how those deaths spanned across the nation. • 480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago • 344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore • 333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit • 119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (a 54% increase over prior years) So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have strict gun laws, so it is not the lack of law that is the root cause. This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California had 1,169 and Alabama had 1. Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course, but understand, it is not guns causing this. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So if all cities and states are not created equal, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths. Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assault are all done by criminals. It is ludicrous to think that criminals will obey laws. That is why they are called criminals.

But what about other deaths each year? • 40,000+ die from a drug overdose–THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT! • 36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths. • 34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide). Now it gets good: • 200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors. You are safer walking in the worst areas of Chicago than you are when you are in a hospital! • 710,000 people die per year from heart disease. It’s time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So what is the point? If the liberal loons and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.). A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total number of gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides ................ Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions!

So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns? It's pretty simple: Taking away guns gives control to governments. The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace. Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs. So the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed." It’s not the lack of laws, it’s lack of Morality."

Hmmm Bama what you have to say about that^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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03-16-2018 11:06 PM

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Post: #172
RE: Banning Assault Rifles Will Decrease Mass Shootings
Nope won't work. Chicago bans firearms and has one of the highest gun related death rates in the country.

What does work is property security procedures at soft targets, like armed guards carrying machine guns at choke points. Israel does this and they do not have these kinds of problems.

Maybe their government doesn't want to make a political statement by killing their own children too, who can say.

The LORD thunders at the head of his army; his forces are beyond number,
and mighty is the army that obeys his command.
The day of the LORD is great; it is dreadful. Who can endure it?
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03-16-2018 11:09 PM

 



Post: #173
RE: Banning Assault Rifles Will Decrease Mass Shootings
I'm guessing people will just use a non-assault rifle.

No less deadly - but a far less scary name.
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03-17-2018 12:26 AM

 



Post: #174
RE: Banning Assault Rifles Will Decrease Mass Shootings
Probably will, at least for school shootings.

Once this U.N. Agenda is realized, and America is disarmed, all the heartbreaking drama with innocent kids getting killed will no longer serve a purpose.

As a matter of fact, it would be counter productive to keep killing school kids.
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03-17-2018 12:35 AM

 



Post: #175
banana RE: Banning Assault Rifles Will Decrease Mass Shootings
Banning black people will significantly decrease rapes and drive by shootings.
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