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Elizabeth Warren refuses DNA test to prove Native American heritage
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Post: #32
RE: Elizabeth Warren refuses DNA test to prove Native American heritage
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-12-2018 11:24 PM)
typical cherokee syndrome, so many blonde haired blue eyed white women claim they have cherokee blood, men to.

I have a blonde haired, blue eyed 1/4th Cherokee in my family. I also have 1/2 Annuit and 1/4th Annuit. Add in adoptees and I can include Hispanic and yet another 100% Annuit. Just sayin'.
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RE: Elizabeth Warren refuses DNA test to prove Native American heritage
RiskyRob  Wrote: (03-13-2018 01:14 AM)
"It's pretty clear that Elizabeth Warren used the minority report for career advancement "

http://volokh.com/2012/05/04/elizabeth-w...ol-hiring/

Snopes agrees that there is that ^ possibility but they are not saying it is true or false. I believe that she believed what he family told her and that she felt herself to be partly native American. So marking some boxes and then taking teaching positions she was recruited for is not illegal or even unethical. The fact remains Elisabeth Warren is a wonderful reformer of corporate government collusion and she was a great educator. I don't get the insistence on calling names and making a case for her ethics being called into question when it does not seem that was the case. But the far right is fixated on finding fault with anything from any challenger to their hold on congressional power and now the white house.

Did Elizabeth Warren Lie About Her Native American Heritage to Land a Job at Harvard?

"The claim about Warren’s use of her Native American heritage to obtain a high-paying job at Harvard University appears to date from her 2012 bid against incumbent Scott Brown for his Senate seat. Brown alleged during a debate in 2012:

I think character is important. I think what you’re referring to is the fact that Professor Warren claimed that she was a Native American, a person of color, and as you can see, she’s not. That being said, she checked the box and she had an opportunity actually to make a decision throughout her career when she applied to Penn and Harvard and she checked the box claiming she was a Native American.And, you know, clearly she’s not. That being said, I don’t know and neither do the viewers know whether she got ahead as a result of that checking of the box, but the only way that we’ll be able to find that out is to have her release her personnel records, have Harvard release their personnel records to make sure that she did not have an advantage that others were entitled to. When you are a United States Senator you have to pass a test, and one of character and honesty and truthfulness. And I believe, and others believe, that she has failed that test.
The legitimacy of Warren’s claims to Native American heritage has certainly been challenged by many critics, and it is true that while Warren was at U. Penn. Law School she put herself on the “Minority Law Teacher” list as Native American) in the faculty directory of the Association of American Law Schools, and that Harvard Law School at one time promoted Warren as a Native American faculty member. But specific evidence that she gained her position at Harvard (at least in part) through her claims to Native American heritage is lacking. Warren denied applying for special consideration as a person of Native American heritage during her career, and when the matter was examined in 2012 in response to Brown’s claims, people with whom Warren had worked similarly denied her ancestral background’s factoring into the professional opportunities afforded her:
The former chairman of the American Association of Law Schools, David Bernstein, told the Herald that the group’s directory once served as a tip sheet for administrators. “In the old days before the Internet, you’d pull out the AALS directory and look up people,” he said. “There are schools that, if they were looking for a minority faculty member, would go to that list and might say, ‘I didn’t know Elizabeth Warren was a minority.'”Warren said she didn’t know Harvard had used her heritage as proof of diversity until reading about the issue in the news, according to a Herald report. She also denied that she ever tried to gain a professional advantage through her lineage.
Warren responded she was recruited for the positions and did not “apply” for them; and for the most part, her record did not indicate any identification as part of a minority group:

The Globe obtained a portion of Warren’s application to Rutgers, which asks if prospective students want to apply for admission under the school’s Program for Minority Group Students. Warren answered “no.”For her employment documents at the University of Texas, Warren indicated that she was “white.”

But Penn’s 2005 Minority Equity Report identified her as the recipient of a 1994 faculty award, listing her name in bold to signify that she was a minority.

The Herald has twice quoted Charles Fried, the head of the Harvard appointing committee that recommended Warren for her position in 1995, saying that the Democratic candidate’s heritage didn’t come up during the course of her hiring. “It simply played no role in the appointments process,” he said. “It was not mentioned and I didn’t mention it to the faculty.”

The Herald later quoted Fried, a former U.S. Solicitor General under President Ronald Reagan, saying, “I can state categorically that the subject of her Native American ancestry never once was mentioned.”"

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/elizab...-american/

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Post: #34
RE: Elizabeth Warren refuses DNA test to prove Native American heritage
Yet Warren keeps telling America that she “knows who she is” and that “no one is going to take that part of me away.”

Despite her denials of profiting from her claims of Native American ties, she likely never would have been appointed to the faculty of Harvard Law without the distinction of being the first “Indian” there. It was a key point in her rise from an obscure academic to her current position as one of the leading lights of her party’s left wing.

Last month, she showed up at a convention of Native Americans and admitted that without a tribal identity — something that must be based on actual proof — you can’t call yourself an Indian. That’s particularly true nowadays when income from casinos has enabled some tribes to prosper.

Yet she still stuck to her myth while saying she would be working to defend Native American interests. It sounded as if what she was looking for was some sort of honorary status — a modern version of “honorary Sioux” Annie Oakley — as a mark of gratitude for her advocacy.

Warren said she listed herself with Native American heritage because she hoped to meet people with similar roots.

https://nypost.com/2018/03/12/warrens-na...get-worse/
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Post: #35
RE: Elizabeth Warren refuses DNA test to prove Native American heritage
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-13-2018 01:46 AM)
Uppity Me  Wrote: (03-13-2018 01:32 AM)
how do these freaks get into power in the first place? who keeps these useless freaks there? how come no one notices what freaks they are.

The freaks are completely controllable by blackmail.
They have to vote 100% party line or else.

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Post: #36
RE: Elizabeth Warren refuses DNA test to prove Native American heritage
He Man  Wrote: (03-13-2018 02:04 AM)
RiskyRob  Wrote: (03-13-2018 01:14 AM)
"It's pretty clear that Elizabeth Warren used the minority report for career advancement "

http://volokh.com/2012/05/04/elizabeth-w...ol-hiring/

Snopes agrees that there is that ^ possibility but they are not saying it is true or false. I believe that she believed what he family told her and that she felt herself to be partly native American. So marking some boxes and then taking teaching positions she was recruited for is not illegal or even unethical. The fact remains Elisabeth Warren is a wonderful reformer of corporate government collusion and she was a great educator. I don't get the insistence on calling names and making a case for her ethics being called into question when it does not seem that was the case. But the far right is fixated on finding fault with anything from any challenger to their hold on congressional power and now the white house.

Did Elizabeth Warren Lie About Her Native American Heritage to Land a Job at Harvard?

"The claim about Warren’s use of her Native American heritage to obtain a high-paying job at Harvard University appears to date from her 2012 bid against incumbent Scott Brown for his Senate seat. Brown alleged during a debate in 2012:

I think character is important. I think what you’re referring to is the fact that Professor Warren claimed that she was a Native American, a person of color, and as you can see, she’s not. That being said, she checked the box and she had an opportunity actually to make a decision throughout her career when she applied to Penn and Harvard and she checked the box claiming she was a Native American.And, you know, clearly she’s not. That being said, I don’t know and neither do the viewers know whether she got ahead as a result of that checking of the box, but the only way that we’ll be able to find that out is to have her release her personnel records, have Harvard release their personnel records to make sure that she did not have an advantage that others were entitled to. When you are a United States Senator you have to pass a test, and one of character and honesty and truthfulness. And I believe, and others believe, that she has failed that test.
The legitimacy of Warren’s claims to Native American heritage has certainly been challenged by many critics, and it is true that while Warren was at U. Penn. Law School she put herself on the “Minority Law Teacher” list as Native American) in the faculty directory of the Association of American Law Schools, and that Harvard Law School at one time promoted Warren as a Native American faculty member. But specific evidence that she gained her position at Harvard (at least in part) through her claims to Native American heritage is lacking. Warren denied applying for special consideration as a person of Native American heritage during her career, and when the matter was examined in 2012 in response to Brown’s claims, people with whom Warren had worked similarly denied her ancestral background’s factoring into the professional opportunities afforded her:
The former chairman of the American Association of Law Schools, David Bernstein, told the Herald that the group’s directory once served as a tip sheet for administrators. “In the old days before the Internet, you’d pull out the AALS directory and look up people,” he said. “There are schools that, if they were looking for a minority faculty member, would go to that list and might say, ‘I didn’t know Elizabeth Warren was a minority.'”Warren said she didn’t know Harvard had used her heritage as proof of diversity until reading about the issue in the news, according to a Herald report. She also denied that she ever tried to gain a professional advantage through her lineage.
Warren responded she was recruited for the positions and did not “apply” for them; and for the most part, her record did not indicate any identification as part of a minority group:

The Globe obtained a portion of Warren’s application to Rutgers, which asks if prospective students want to apply for admission under the school’s Program for Minority Group Students. Warren answered “no.”For her employment documents at the University of Texas, Warren indicated that she was “white.”

But Penn’s 2005 Minority Equity Report identified her as the recipient of a 1994 faculty award, listing her name in bold to signify that she was a minority.

The Herald has twice quoted Charles Fried, the head of the Harvard appointing committee that recommended Warren for her position in 1995, saying that the Democratic candidate’s heritage didn’t come up during the course of her hiring. “It simply played no role in the appointments process,” he said. “It was not mentioned and I didn’t mention it to the faculty.”

The Herald later quoted Fried, a former U.S. Solicitor General under President Ronald Reagan, saying, “I can state categorically that the subject of her Native American ancestry never once was mentioned.”"

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/elizab...-american/
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RE: Elizabeth Warren refuses DNA test to prove Native American heritage
Fits the democratic profile: go high on virtue signalling, go low on facts.
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