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First three years: Stock Market Performed Far-Better Under Obama Than Trump
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RE: First three years: Stock Market Performed Far-Better Under Obama Than Trump
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He Man  Wrote: (01-26-2020 01:04 AM)
The data is in and it is not a good talking point for Trump but he will lie about it anyway. People need to know the truth, so here is the information.

The Stock Market Performed Far-Better Under President Obama Than Trump

"The S&P 500 grew 37 percentile points more under Obama’s first three years than under the equivalent time during Trump’s term, according to a tweet by Washington Post Columnist Catherine Rampell.

link to image: https://i.imgur.com/76g7NZ1.jpg

The index, which tracks the largest 500 public companies in the country, climbed 58.24 percent under between February of 2009 and May of 2011, but only 21.57 percent between February 2017, and May of 2019.

“Presidents don't control stock markets, the market is not the economy, etc. Still, once upon a time, Trump used to brag that market gains were a good metric of his success,” according to Rampell.

It is important to note, however, that Obama’s first term coincided with the country's recovery from its worst financial crisis since the great depression. The S&P 500 fell 48 percent (from May 2007) to a record low of 770 points in February of 2009, when Rampell’s calculation begins.

Abnormally low valuations in that period may account for a substantial portion of Obama’s subsequent success of the stock market, which reached pre-crisis levels in 2013 -- a year into his second term."

https://mavenroundtable.io/theintellectu...677ESMfOoQ

First 3 years of Obama's term also had the gov giving trillions in free money
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Post: #47
RE: First three years: Stock Market Performed Far-Better Under Obama Than Trump
Jack Torrance  Wrote: (01-26-2020 05:40 PM)
Яudis  Wrote: (01-26-2020 05:23 PM)
TRUMP Is Uncovering and Investigating All their Corrupt Criminal
Dealings With the Russians and Ukrainians in the Energy Sectors
of Eastern Europe and the Theft Of Tax Payer Money through
The Foreign Aid Packages and Programs.

They Have Been Robbing Us BLIND For Over 30 Years!




It Did all start with Hillary's Insane Assertions in that Speech.

Then Shortly After TRUMP Wins The Election!
I think Hillary Knew When She made the speech that she was going to LOSE.

1.) Hillary BatShitCrazy Alt~Right Speech
at Truckee Meadows Community College (TMCC).
2.) Stormy Daniels & Crazy Porn Lawyer.
3.) Steel Dossier/PissGate.
4.) Russia Probe.
5.) House Impeachment.
6.) Senate Impeachment Trial.
7.) The Stock Market is Responding To Obama Change & Hope.

Obviously You Cant Beat Trump With Crazy Insanity.
ZERO evidence of any of this horseshit, parasite.
That is Actual History and Timeline of Events.
IT all Happened In the REAL WORLD!

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The stock market is a massive ponzi casino, who the fcuk cares.
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RE: First three years: Stock Market Performed Far-Better Under Obama Than Trump
Яudis  Wrote: (01-26-2020 06:09 PM)
Jack Torrance  Wrote: (01-26-2020 05:40 PM)
ZERO evidence of any of this horseshit, parasite.
That is Actual History and Timeline of Events.
IT all Happened In the REAL WORLD!

I was talking about the first paragraph of your post. Btw, you have orange around your mouth.

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RE: First three years: Stock Market Performed Far-Better Under Obama Than Trump
Jack Torrance  Wrote: (01-26-2020 06:38 PM)
Яudis  Wrote: (01-26-2020 06:09 PM)
That is Actual History and Timeline of Events.
IT all Happened In the REAL WORLD!
I was talking about the first paragraph of your post. Btw,
you have orange around your mouth.
Foreign Aid is an ABSOLUTE Con Job!
There is always a Quid Pro Quo in the Form of Kickbacks and Bribes to Democrats!
The Democrat Party is Very ANGRY Trump has Interfered In their MoneyTrain.

They have Shell Companies they FORCE Foreign Countries to Donate To
to Get the Foreign Aid! Then these shell companies donate the money to
NGO's Who then Donate the Money to NPO's Who then Donate the Money
TO THE DNC Or the Clinton or Obama Foundations.
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Hence The Very True Statement as Header!
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TRUMP Is Uncovering and Investigating All their Corrupt Criminal
Dealings With the Russians and Ukrainians in the Energy Sectors
of Eastern Europe and the Theft Of Tax Payer Money through
The Foreign Aid Packages and Programs.

They Have Been Robbing Us BLIND For Over 30 Years!

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RE: First three years: Stock Market Performed Far-Better Under Obama Than Trump
SevenThunders  Wrote: (01-26-2020 07:14 AM)
What a horrible pack of lies. The stock market collapsed under Obama in 2008 and he doubled the national debt in a few months time in order to fix it. By the way what a disingenuous sack of lying crap this is.

Over Obama's 8 years the stock market increase by 34%, from 12,207 to 16346. Right now under Trump after around 3 years the market is at 28,989. That's a 77% increase. You lib.s love to lie with false data. You did the same with the global warming scam. Look at the numbers yourself.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/%5EDJI/c...1dfQ%3D%3D

The Obama run up was due to all of the taxpayers money being pumped into it, or did you forget quantitative easing?

Meanwhile new business starts sunk to an all time low, unemployment rose dramatically, the divide between rich and poor greatly increased (contrary to the leftist pipe dream that big government helps the poor), and he enslaved a generation with onerous college loans.

Trump is only now fixing this.

1. Bush43/Cheney were in office when the Great Bush Recession hit and they were in office when the huge bush market melt down happened in 2008.

The 2008 Crash: What Happened to All That Money?
A look at what caused the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.

"The Bush administration, criticized for earlier bailouts, cut Lehman loose

In March 2008, the investment bank Bear Stearns began to go under, so the U.S. treasury and the Federal Reserve system brokered, and partly financed, a deal for its acquisition by JPMorgan Chase. In September, the treasury announced it would rescue the government-supervised mortgage underwriters almost universally known as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

President George W. Bush was a conservative Republican who, along with most of his appointees, believed in the virtue of deregulation. But with a crisis upon them, Bush and his lieutenants, particularly Treasury Secretary Paulson and Federal Reserve Chair Ben Bernanke, decided not to bet on leaving the markets unfettered. Although not required by law to bail out Bear, Fannie or Freddie, they did so to avoid disaster—only to be castigated by fellow Republican believers in deregulation. Senator Jim Bunning of Kentucky called the bailouts "a calamity for our free-market system" and, essentially, "socialism"—albeit the sort of socialism that favored Wall Street, rather than workers.

Earlier in the year, Paulson had identified Lehman as a potential problem and spoke privately to its chief executive, Richard Fuld. Months passed as Fuld failed to find a buyer for his firm. Exasperated with Fuld and stung by criticism from his fellow Republicans, Paulson told Treasury staff to comment—anonymously but on the record—that the government would not rescue Lehman.

By the weekend of September 13-14, 2008, Lehman was clearly finished, with perhaps tens of billions of dollars in overvalued assets on its balance sheets. Anyone who still held Lehman securities on the assumption that the government would bail them out had bet wrong.

One such institution was the Reserve Management Corporation, which in September re-valued its Lehman securities at zero and then had to announce it could no longer afford to redeem shares in its money-market fund at par value. Shares in RMC's money-market fund were now worth less than a dollar apiece—in the language of finance, RMC had "broken the buck," something no money-market fund had done to individual investors before. The money market, some $3.5 trillion in size, provided vital short-term financing to U.S. corporations—but now it joined banks, mortgage lenders, and insurance firms among the faithless giants of the financial system that had suddenly proven spectacularly unworthy of confidence.

A series of bankruptcies and mergers followed as skittish investors, seeking safe harbor, pulled their money out of supposedly high-return vehicles. Their preferred shelter: the U.S. treasury, into whose bonds and bills the terrified financiers of the world poured what liquid wealth they had left. After decades of trying to push the U.S. government out of banking, it turned out that in the end, the U.S. government was the only institution the bankers trusted. Starved of capital and credit, the economy faltered, and a long slump began."

https://www.history.com/news/2008-financ...sis-causes

2. Your numbers are not backed up with any facts. My data in this thread is all correct. Obama kicked Trump's ass in stock market gains if you compare their first three years in office look at those graphs again.

AND STOP LYING!

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LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-26-2020 07:34 AM)
Yes when you're starting at 700 points a 700 point increase in 3 years seems like big increase...percentage wise which is what happened under Obama.

But Trump started at 2100 and increased to 3300.

A 1200 point increase.

Far larger than Obamas.

Just saying. You might be able to fool some idiots.

You are the idiot the numbers do not lie.

Obama inherited a horrible Bush recession and market meltdown and turned it around immediately and had a great run with jobs and stock markets.

Trump inherited Obama's stellar economy and has not produced the jobs gains or the stock market performance that Obama got.

What part of this graph do you not understand?

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Soul.  Wrote: (01-26-2020 07:58 AM)
Jerking off to which president rich f*cks that dont give a sh*t about you did better with

Gross

Who the f*#k gives a sh*t about the stock market besides bootlickers

I live off the stock market and I do not lick boots. Most Americans have ties to the stock market through retirement plans and 401K's and annuities IRA accounts, etc. etc.

The basic idea is simple, democratic presidents always have better economies because they do not only coddle the balls of the billionaire class, like the republicans do.

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RE: First three years: Stock Market Performed Far-Better Under Obama Than Trump
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-26-2020 07:34 AM)
Yes when you're starting at 700 points a 700 point increase in 3 years seems like big increase...percentage wise which is what happened under Obama.

But Trump started at 2100 and increased to 3300.

A 1200 point increase.

Far larger than Obamas.

Just saying. You might be able to fool some idiots.

You are the idiot the numbers do not lie.

Obama inherited a horrible Bush recession and market meltdown and turned it around immediately and had a great run with jobs and stock markets.

Trump inherited Obama's stellar economy and has not produced the jobs gains or the stock market performance that Obama got.

What part of this graph do you not understand?

link to image: https://i.imgur.com/iwf2qNT.png

What stellar economy? Obama claimed that there would never ever be another stellar economy.
And climbing out of the basement that you fell in is a hell of a lot easier than building up from the ground.

And if we're going on percentages, 30% of 8000 is a hell of a lot less than 30% of 16000
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He Man  Wrote: (01-26-2020 01:04 AM)
The Stock Market Performed Far-Better Under President Obama Than Trump

“Presidents don't control stock markets, the market is not the economy, etc."
That's a cool bit of trivia...I guess.
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I remember those days, no way was anything better under Obama

It was. Maybe stop playing with lego.

2008 was better than now? What are you smoking? That was the bit of the greatest recession in 80 years.
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It was. Maybe stop playing with lego.

2008 was better than now? What are you smoking? That was the bit of the greatest recession in 80 years.

The Great Bush Recession was technically over five months into Obama's first term in office. The effects of the Bush recession and the Bush market meltdown took longer to get over than most other recessions but that is what Obama did, he dragged the US out of another republican recession and the need for bail outs and got the US on a good footing again until Trump took office and has been working so hard to f*#k over the good Obama economy.

"The Great Recession was a period of general economic decline (recession) observed in world markets during the late 2000s and early 2010s. The scale and timing of the recession varied from country to country (see map).[1][2] The International Monetary Fund (IMF) has concluded that it was the most severe economic and financial meltdown since the Great Depression and it is often regarded as the second-worst downturn of all time.[3][4]

The Great Recession stemmed from the collapse of the United States real estate market in relation to the financial crisis of 2007–2008 and the subprime mortgage crisis, though policies of other nations contributed as well. According to the nonprofit National Bureau of Economic Research, the recession in the U.S. began in December 2007 and ended in June 2009, thus extending over 19 months."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Recession

Obama took office in Jan. 2009.

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Even with visuals and facts these type threads show how insidious right wing fascist mass media programming has become. Rush Limpballs and Yawn Insanity think for their groupie followers/sheep so they don't have to.
Trump cult is mind-controlled 1984 style.

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Lol at the constant dick measuring and comparing from the left. Seems they are trying to compensate for something, no?
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (01-27-2020 02:14 AM)
Lol at the constant dick measuring and comparing from the left. Seems they are trying to compensate for something, no?

Trump is the one doing that ^ constantly lying that his stock market and economy are the best ever, when it is easily proved that is total BS.

Trump's tiny mushroom cock is also something Trump pretends is bigger and better than it really is.

Donald Trump defends size of his penis

"(CNN)Donald Trump assured American voters Thursday night that despite what Marco Rubio had suggested, there was "no problem" with the size of his hands -- or anything else.

"Look at those hands, are they small hands?" the front-runner for the GOP presidential nomination said, raising them for viewers to see. "And, he referred to my hands -- 'if they're small, something else must be small.' I guarantee you there's no problem. I guarantee."

Rubio in recent days revived a decades-old old insult, mocking Trump for having relatively slight hands.

"He's always calling me Little Marco. And I'll admit he's taller than me. He's like 6'2, which is why I don't understand why his hands are the size of someone who is 5'2," Rubio said in Virginia on Sunday. "And you know what they say about men with small hands? You can't trust them."

The New York billionaire has heard similar comments about his hands or, more precisely, his fingers, for years.

As Vanity Fair's Graydon Carter recalled online last year: "Just to drive him a little bit crazy, I took to referring to him as a 'short-fingered vulgarian' in the pages of Spy magazine. That was more than a quarter of a century ago.""

https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/03/politics/...index.html

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