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Tommy Robbinson Interviewing The Imam Of Peace.
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He Man  Wrote: (03-13-2018 12:19 AM)
Disturbed  Wrote: (03-12-2018 11:56 PM)
I share your concerns, don't get me wrong. But if you pay close attention you even see little steps of reform in Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see..

All islamic citizen and immigrants that are seeking citizenship in the EU have to follow EU and national laws. The one that don't jet jailed for various crimes, isn't that "reform" of a sort?

What "reforms" beyond following the laws like any other citizen are you suggesting they should tolerate?

Do you think Jews or Christians or other religious followers who immigrate to any nation in the EU would allow or tolerate "reforms" other than accepting citizenship in a nation of the EU and agreeing to follow the laws and a citizenship oath at some point?

I think you are a victim of fear mongering and spreading fear with posts like this one.

You do jibbeeish, dodge Life.

As told before it's far from easy to influence Nature.
You want to tell me I'm wrong on all levels of my Life.

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Post: #32
RE: Tommy Robbinson Interviewing The Imam Of Peace.
He Man  Wrote: (03-13-2018 12:19 AM)
Disturbed  Wrote: (03-12-2018 11:56 PM)
I share your concerns, don't get me wrong. But if you pay close attention you even see little steps of reform in Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see..

All islamic citizen and immigrants that are seeking citizenship in the EU have to follow EU and national laws. The one that don't jet jailed for various crimes, isn't that "reform" of a sort?

What "reforms" beyond following the laws like any other citizen are you suggesting they should tolerate?

Do you think Jews or Christians or other religious followers who immigrate to any nation in the EU would allow or tolerate "reforms" other than accepting citizenship in a nation of the EU and agreeing to follow the laws and a citizenship oath at some point?

I think you are a victim of fear mongering and spreading fear with posts like this one.

That's not my intention. And I am not scared either.. I do think there are reasons for concern though. At the moment we see a slight rise with regards to the salafi movement here in Europe. I am concerned that will cause parallel societies in the same country. Intolerance towards women, gays and jews.

Please watch the video if you have some time, the imam explains it better than me.

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Take a look at Stefan Molyneux vid.
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Wahabist Islam was created by Ibn Wahab, a person who was only pretending to be Muslim so he could do great harm to Islam and the Message of the Prophet. (PBUH)

Ibn Wahab succeeded beyond anything he could have imagined when it came to creating an 'Islam' that cannot be found in the Quran.

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They are allowed to lie if it furthers their religion. Just sayin' - there's no bargain, deal, treaty etc. they could ever make that should be believed.
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Archangel  Wrote: (03-13-2018 12:51 AM)
Whabist Islam was created by Ibn Wahab, a person who was only pretending to be Muslim so he could do great harm to Islam and the Message of the Prophet. (PBUH)

Ibn Wahab succeeded beyond anything he could have imagined when it came to creating an 'Islam' that cannot be found in the Quran.

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Archangel  Wrote: (03-13-2018 12:51 AM)
Whabist Islam was created by Ibn Wahab, a person who was only pretending to be Muslim so he could do great harm to Islam and the Message of the Prophet. (PBUH)

Ibn Wahab succeeded beyond anything he could have imagined when it came to creating an 'Islam' that cannot be found in the Quran.

ac488 ac488

IMO...Islam is a false religion. allah is just another name for satan. mo is just one of satan's many imps.
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RE: Tommy Robbinson Interviewing The Imam Of Peace.
Disturbed  Wrote: (03-13-2018 12:28 AM)
He Man  Wrote: (03-13-2018 12:19 AM)
All islamic citizen and immigrants that are seeking citizenship in the EU have to follow EU and national laws. The one that don't jet jailed for various crimes, isn't that "reform" of a sort?

What "reforms" beyond following the laws like any other citizen are you suggesting they should tolerate?

Do you think Jews or Christians or other religious followers who immigrate to any nation in the EU would allow or tolerate "reforms" other than accepting citizenship in a nation of the EU and agreeing to follow the laws and a citizenship oath at some point?

I think you are a victim of fear mongering and spreading fear with posts like this one.

That's not my intention. And I am not scared either.. I do think there are reasons for concern though. At the moment we see a slight rise with regards to the salafi movement here in Europe. I am concerned that will cause parallel societies in the same country. Intolerance towards women, gays and jews.

Please watch the video if you have some time, the imam explains it better than me.

There are minority segments or sects in most major religions that have terrorism as a tool for enacting a goal, terrorist Jews, terrorist Christians, terrorist Islamists, etc. etc. Any of those religions can create a problem for society in various ways but what "reforms" would be appropriate to foster onto one religion and not others? I will watch it but I still think that islamic people will not accept "reforms" of some sort, any more than Jews or Christians would, or should.
Islam is just a religion, the fact that there are some violent terroristic nuts attached to Islam should not be a burden on the huge majority of Islamic people. Just like Judaism and Christianity should not be defined by the minority of extremists in their ranks. Interesting thread. Thanks for posting it.

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Pinguu  Wrote: (03-12-2018 11:02 PM)
Really...

You do know that watching anything by Tommy Robinson automatically makes you a right wing Nazi racist in the UK...

If I watch that my door would probably be broken down before it ended and I would be arrested for viewing inflammatory hate speech material and become a suspect right wing terrorist....

Oh well I shall just say some bloke from Holland told me to do it...chuckle

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Archangel  Wrote: (03-13-2018 12:51 AM)
Wahabist Islam was created by Ibn Wahab, a person who was only pretending to be Muslim so he could do great harm to Islam and the Message of the Prophet. (PBUH)

Ibn Wahab succeeded beyond anything he could have imagined when it came to creating an 'Islam' that cannot be found in the Quran.

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Just like marxismn ended in horror.
I also agree with my Beloved Care regarding hitler.

Total control will bite back, Freedom is to be open not a mask that suffocate you.
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Vlad  Wrote: (03-12-2018 11:11 PM)
Disturbed  Wrote: (03-12-2018 11:09 PM)
chuckle

Tommy goes a bit far every now and then but you can see he is not opposed to a peaceful and reformed Islam.

I am in no way a right wing extremist but I do understand his concerns.

I hope the imam of peace can help make that reform happen.

Knowing Islam from the inside I'm sceptical of reforms since last words was no reforms allowed.


I'm skeptical too.

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LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-13-2018 12:56 AM)
They are allowed to lie if it furthers their religion. Just sayin' - there's no bargain, deal, treaty etc. they could ever make that should be believed.

Christianity is the only of the Middle Eastern religions which does not allow lying.

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Vlad  Wrote: (03-13-2018 01:10 AM)
Archangel  Wrote: (03-13-2018 12:51 AM)
Wahabist Islam was created by Ibn Wahab, a person who was only pretending to be Muslim so he could do great harm to Islam and the Message of the Prophet. (PBUH)

Ibn Wahab succeeded beyond anything he could have imagined when it came to creating an 'Islam' that cannot be found in the Quran.

.

Just like marxismn ended in horror.
I also agree with my Beloved Care regarding hitler.

Total control will bite back, Freedom is to be open not a mask that suffocate you.

Vlad me laddie, total control is a dead and deadly thing. The best masks are the ones removed as we walk through new doors

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Archangel  Wrote: (03-13-2018 01:14 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-13-2018 12:56 AM)
They are allowed to lie if it furthers their religion. Just sayin' - there's no bargain, deal, treaty etc. they could ever make that should be believed.

Christianity is the only of the Middle Eastern religions which does not allow lying.

.

LIAR!!! chuckle

The Bible Never Commends Lying

So, is it ever right to lie? I am willing to say only that it is possible, instead of answering the question simply with “yes,” because in neither of these cases (nor anywhere else in Scripture, that I am aware of) does the Bible explicitly approve of lying itself. The midwives are commended for fearing the Lord and not killing the babies. And Rahab demonstrates faith by welcoming the Israelite spies. But their lying is not explicitly approved.

As a pastor, I’ve struggled a long time with how to think and teach about these borderline cases. I’ve concluded that the wisest thing for me to do is to acknowledge that in the fear of God and in the walk of faith, worthy saints have chosen to oppose the effects of evil by concealing the truth from wicked men.

Having recognized that lying may be acceptable in rare situations, we should now consider the overwhelming biblical emphasis condemning falsehood.

There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to Him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that hurry to run to evil, a lying witness who testifies falsely, and one who sows discord in a family. (Proverbs 6:16–19)"

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Archangel  Wrote: (03-13-2018 01:14 AM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-13-2018 12:56 AM)
They are allowed to lie if it furthers their religion. Just sayin' - there's no bargain, deal, treaty etc. they could ever make that should be believed.

Christianity is the only of the Middle Eastern religions which does not allow lying.

.

Mormon religion (though not a REAL Christian religion) allows it for the same purposes as the Muslim religion.
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