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Tillerson fired !!.... <Merged>
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Damrod  Wrote: (03-13-2018 03:49 PM)
Not sure how to take this.

I wasn't a fan of T. rex...he was a big oil corporatist. I thought he was a little too out of touch.

However...making the head of the CIA the head of the state dept doesn't sound all that much better...

What will the lefturdian media say about this? They hated the initial appointment of Tillerson so will they back Trump on this or will they continue to spew deep state propaganda from a different angle now?

More than likely, it's just more bread and circuses...but we shall see...




Trump should have listened in the first place to the democrats and not have appointed Tillerson as SOS.
They were right all along.Rofl
That's some "deep state propaganda" for ya.
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I suspect that Old Rex might have been helping to keep us out of increased military actions or a major war. Tillerson seemed like one of the more reasonable, sane people in the Cabinet. Now we get this nut:

Pompeo --

wiki excerpts:

"n the general election, Pompeo defeated Democratic nominee Raj Goyle, a member of the Kansas House of Representatives. Pompeo received 59% of the vote (117,171 votes), to 36% for Goyle (71,866).[22] During the campaign, Pompeo sparked controversy when his campaign's Twitter account shared, then later deleted, a blog post calling his Indian-American opponent a "turban topper" and then-President Barack Obama an "evil Muslim communist."[23]

During the campaign, Pompeo received $80,000 in donations from Koch Industries and its employees.[24]"


"CIA Director
On November 18, 2016, then-President-elect Donald Trump announced that he would nominate Pompeo to be the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency.[29] He was confirmed by the United States Senate on January 23, 2017 with a vote of 66–32, and sworn in later that day.[30][31]

In February 2017, Pompeo traveled to Turkey and Saudi Arabia. He met with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to discuss policy on Syria and ISIL.[32] Pompeo honored the then-Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia Muhammad bin Nayef with the CIA's "George Tenet" Medal.[33] It was the first reaffirmation of Saudi Arabia–United States relations since Donald Trump took office in January 2017.[34]

In August 2017, Pompeo took direct command of the Counterintelligence Mission Center, the department which helped to launch an investigation into possible links between Trump associates and Russian officials.[35] Former CIA Directors expressed concern since Pompeo is known to be an ally of Donald Trump.[36]"


"Surveillance
Pompeo supports the surveillance programs of the National Security Agency, referring to the agency's efforts as "good and important work."[37]

Pompeo stated that "Congress should pass a law re-establishing collection of all metadata, and combining it with publicly available financial and lifestyle information into a comprehensive, searchable database. Legal and bureaucratic impediments to surveillance should be removed.
That includes Presidential Policy Directive-28, which bestows privacy rights on foreigners and imposes burdensome requirements to justify data collection."[38]

"Terrorism
In a 2013 speech on the House floor, Pompeo said Muslim leaders who fail to denounce acts of terrorism done in the name of Islam are "potentially complicit" in the attacks.[39] The Council on American-Islamic Relations called on Pompeo to revise his remarks, calling them "false and irresponsible."[40]

Prisons
Pompeo opposes closing Guantanamo Bay detention camp.[41] After a 2013 visit to the prison, Pompeo said, of the prisoners who were on hunger strike, "It looked to me like a lot of them had put on weight."[42]

Pompeo criticized the Obama administration's decision to end black sites (secret prisons), and its requirement that all interrogators adhere to anti-torture laws.[43]

North Korea
Pompeo desires regime change in North Korea.[44] In July 2017, Pompeo said "It would be a great thing to denuclearize the peninsula, to get those weapons off of that, but the thing that is most dangerous about it is the character who holds the control over them today."[45]


"Iran
Pompeo worked to undermine the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action nuclear deal with Iran that was supported by the Obama Administration. Referring to the agreement, Pompeo stated “I look forward to rolling back this disastrous deal with the world’s largest state sponsor of terrorism.”[46] Pompeo also stated that a better option than negotiating with Iran would be to use 'under 2,000 sorties to destroy the Iranian nuclear capacity. This is not an insurmountable task for the coalition forces.'"

"Russia
During his confirmation hearing, Pompeo stated that Russia "has reasserted itself aggressively, invading and occupying Ukraine, threatening Europe, and doing nearly nothing to aid in the destruction and defeat of ISIS.”[48]

Syria
Pompeo accused President Obama of inviting Russia into Syria.[35]"

"Pompeo opposes requiring food suppliers to label food made with genetically modified organisms. He introduced the Safe and Accurate Food Labeling Act of 2015 to block states from requiring mandatory GMO food labeling.[66]"

[bold is mine]

much more at this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Pompeo

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LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-13-2018 07:48 PM)
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-13-2018 07:45 PM)
Hey it's Q.
New secstate will be provided by the White Knights of Ku Klux Klan.
Creep show incoming.

Omg.
It is even worse!
Mike Pompeo CIA head will be secstate.
Tripple creep show now!

Afaik he is also a life long member of the NRA.
More guns to the people!
Leftists at boiling point!
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Does this mean CIA is now back charge of the State Department? How does putting a war monger in charge of diplomacy a good thing?

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Damrod  Wrote: (03-13-2018 03:49 PM)
Not sure how to take this.

I wasn't a fan of T. rex...he was a big oil corporatist. I thought he was a little too out of touch.

However...making the head of the CIA the head of the state dept doesn't sound all that much better...

What will the lefturdian media say about this? They hated the initial appointment of Tillerson so will they back Trump on this or will they continue to spew deep state propaganda from a different angle now?

More than likely, it's just more bread and circuses...but we shall see...




Trump should have listened in the first place to the democrats and not have appointed Tillerson as SOS.
They were right all along.Rofl
That's some "deep state propaganda" for ya.

Well they whined ...a lot.

I was never a fan of Trump's initial appointments...I felt like he was being forced to put these people in these positions.

Sessions is lame...Tillerson is an elitist and a corporatist....

at least Ben Carson is doing OK as Sec of housing and Rick Perry is not so terrible as sec of energy...yet...we shall see soon enough I think

the sec of education will get my respect when she steps forward and recommends the dept be shut down and education returned to the states like it was for over a hundred years...that is when our people were getting "real" education and not statist indoctrination

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Damrod  Wrote: (03-13-2018 07:23 PM)
He Man  Wrote: (03-13-2018 07:21 PM)
Thanks for posting on this GG! 5*

Paul Krugman just issued an ominous warning in the wake of Rex Tillerson’s ouster

"Donald Trump has nursed petty, personal grudges his entire life. Previously, their impact was limited to his businesses and anyone who had the misfortune of working with him. Now that he’s president, however, he’s free to indulge his vindictiveness on the world stage, with some help from his team of enablers.

Take his latest attack on the European Union. While announcing the tariffs on steel and aluminum, which could potentially trigger a trade war, our president tweeted that the EU has “horrific barriers & tariffs on U.S. products going in.” This, Paul Krugman notes, is bizarre on multiple levels: “To the (very large) extent to which Trumpism is based on racial enmity, picking a fight with Europe, of all places, seems strange. Furthermore, the U.S. has always looked favorably on the EU, which is, for all its faults, a major force for peace and democracy. Why rush into a spitting match with our allies that only serves the interests of enemies of freedom like Vladimir Putin? Oh, wait.”

Someone is feeding the president these destructive ideas, and all roads lead his trade czar, Peter Navarro. Navarro shares Trump’s protectionist view on trade, which seems to be his main qualification for the job. “The story of Navarro’s rise,” Krugman observes, “tells you a lot about the nature of the Trump administration—a place that rewards sycophants who tell the boss what he wants to hear.”

What he wants to hear are views at odds with mainstream economists on both sides of the aisle, and even worse, “seem to involve basic conceptual and factual errors.” Consider what Krugman calls Navarro’s “complete misunderstanding of the trade effects of value-added taxes (VATs), which the U.S. doesn’t have but play a large role in most European countries’ revenue.”

Navarro, Krugman explains, thinks VATs give Europe a giant, unfair trade advantage:

U.S. products sold in Europe have to pay VAT—for example, they must pay a 19 percent tax if sold in Germany. This, [says a campaign] white paper, is just like an import tariff. Meanwhile, German producers pay no VAT on goods they sell in America; this, the paper says, is just like an export subsidy. I’m pretty sure that’s what Trump means when he talks about “horrific” tariffs. But what this story misses is the fact that when German producers sell to German consumers, they also pay that 19 percent tax.

In reality, VAT is a basic sales tax, just like the ones we pay in the U.S. every day. So how does somehow who promotes a deep misunderstanding of Economics 101 get a job in a presidential administration? In Navarro’s case, all he has to do is tell Trump what he wants to hear.

Even worse, Krugman continues, “he’s willing to abase himself in extraordinary ways.” Take this quote from an interview with Bloomberg: “My function, really, as an economist is to try to provide the underlying analytics that confirmhis intuition. And his intuition is always right in these matters.”

Krugman thinks that in this interview, Navarro is “proudly declaring that he’s a propagandist, not a policy analyst—that his role is solely to confirm Trump’s prejudices.” What’s worse, “he’s also engaging in an utterly un-American level of sycophancy. Since when has it become acceptable to declare that Dear Leader is infallible?”"

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/paul-kr...ns-ouster/

So Commie Monkey Boy makes his grand entrance with a wall of bullshit....

Do you honestly think Tillerson was a good guy and should have been kept in place?

are you f*cking kidding me?

If the archive was available...I bet I could go back and find a ton of your bullshit whining about his appointment...

it's time to stfu and let the adults talk about this...you are too mentally unstable to be a part of this conversation

and Krugman is dumber than the dogshit my pups dropped in the yard while ago....his opinion is something worthy of being wiped off your shoes

Tillerson was an Exxon CEO he received the Russian medal of friendship, for helping Russia with oil exploration and development against international sanctions, pinned to his chest by Putin personally. Putin likely did order Trump to appoint Tillerson to be Sec. of State. I personally think having international oil executives become sec. of state is a horrible idea. I am glad Tillerson was honest enough to call Trump a "moron" and that he had the backbone to not deny that he did it.
I am glad Tillerson is out and whomever Trump puts into the position is going to be a bad decision.

This article is just Paul Krugman's take on the situation. Paul Krugman is a Nobel prize winning economist who has consistently shown he is brilliant and has a very good track record of predicting bad outcomes to republican economic policies.

You are a less than smart person saying stupid things as usual. chuckle

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Post: #142
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He Man  Wrote: (03-13-2018 08:03 PM)
Damrod  Wrote: (03-13-2018 07:23 PM)
So Commie Monkey Boy makes his grand entrance with a wall of bullshit....

Do you honestly think Tillerson was a good guy and should have been kept in place?

are you f*cking kidding me?

If the archive was available...I bet I could go back and find a ton of your bullshit whining about his appointment...

it's time to stfu and let the adults talk about this...you are too mentally unstable to be a part of this conversation

and Krugman is dumber than the dogshit my pups dropped in the yard while ago....his opinion is something worthy of being wiped off your shoes

Tillerson was an Exxon CEO he received the Russian medal of friendship, for helping Russia with oil exploration and development against international sanctions, pinned to his chest by Putin personally. Putin likely did order Trump to appoint Tillerson to be Sec. of State. I personally think having international oil executives become sec. of state is a horrible idea. I am glad Tillerson was honest enough to call Trump a "moron" and that he had the backbone to not deny that he did it.
I am glad Tillerson is out and whomever Trump puts into the position is going to be a bad decision.

This article is just Paul Krugman's take on the situation. Paul Krugman is a Nobel prize winning economist who has consistently shown he is brilliant and has a very good track record of predicting bad outcomes to republican economic policies.

You are a less than smart person saying stupid things as usual. chuckle

Oh you know my IQ pounds yours into the basement Commie Monkey Boy....

I take your insults as accreditation. I am smarter than you....and you know it. hell...it has nothing to do with engineering (which is how I make a living)...just common sense ...which you seem to be devoid of....

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He Man  Wrote: (03-13-2018 08:03 PM)
Damrod  Wrote: (03-13-2018 07:23 PM)
So Commie Monkey Boy makes his grand entrance with a wall of bullshit....

Do you honestly think Tillerson was a good guy and should have been kept in place?

are you f*cking kidding me?

If the archive was available...I bet I could go back and find a ton of your bullshit whining about his appointment...

it's time to stfu and let the adults talk about this...you are too mentally unstable to be a part of this conversation

and Krugman is dumber than the dogshit my pups dropped in the yard while ago....his opinion is something worthy of being wiped off your shoes

Tillerson was an Exxon CEO he received the Russian medal of friendship, for helping Russia with oil exploration and development against international sanctions, pinned to his chest by Putin personally. Putin likely did order Trump to appoint Tillerson to be Sec. of State. I personally think having international oil executives become sec. of state is a horrible idea. I am glad Tillerson was honest enough to call Trump a "moron" and that he had the backbone to not deny that he did it.
I am glad Tillerson is out and whomever Trump puts into the position is going to be a bad decision.

This article is just Paul Krugman's take on the situation. Paul Krugman is a Nobel prize winning economist who has consistently shown he is brilliant and has a very good track record of predicting bad outcomes to republican economic policies.

You are a less than smart person saying stupid things as usual. chuckle


Oh...isn't Krugman the brain void that wanted to mint trillion dollar coins to address the debt?

yeah...what a f*cking genius that guy is....not.

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My prediction: Trump likes being the President. He likes the power, and he can feel Mueller getting closer -- I don't think it is unreasonable that he would try to start a major war to get this Russia thing off of his back and keep him in office. I think that is what the Saudi want, and they paid him more than Russia did.

Can he pull it off?

As incompetent as he is: I kind of doubt it. Not without major, major help from Deep State. It would have to be so lucrative for all major players that they would be willing to set this up for him.

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Damrod  Wrote: (03-13-2018 08:07 PM)
He Man  Wrote: (03-13-2018 08:03 PM)
Tillerson was an Exxon CEO he received the Russian medal of friendship, for helping Russia with oil exploration and development against international sanctions, pinned to his chest by Putin personally. Putin likely did order Trump to appoint Tillerson to be Sec. of State. I personally think having international oil executives become sec. of state is a horrible idea. I am glad Tillerson was honest enough to call Trump a "moron" and that he had the backbone to not deny that he did it.
I am glad Tillerson is out and whomever Trump puts into the position is going to be a bad decision.

This article is just Paul Krugman's take on the situation. Paul Krugman is a Nobel prize winning economist who has consistently shown he is brilliant and has a very good track record of predicting bad outcomes to republican economic policies.

You are a less than smart person saying stupid things as usual. chuckle

Oh you know my IQ pounds yours into the basement Commie Monkey Boy....

I take your insults as accreditation. I am smarter than you....and you know it. hell...it has nothing to do with engineering (which is how I make a living)...just common sense ...which you seem to be devoid of....

Everybody at LOP knows I am smarter and have a much better record of calling what is going on and making predictions based on observation, than you do. I don't care what you think about how smart you are your posting shows what an imbicile you are every day.

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Over the weekend Tillerson did cancel an event in Africa reports of not feeling well.


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Trump last Friday asked Tillerson to step aside, and the embattled top diplomat cut short his trip to Africa on Monday to return to Washington
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NAROBI, Kenya -- U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson canceled his scheduled events Saturday in Kenya because he was sick. "The secretary is not feeling well after a long couple days working on major issues back home such as North Korea," U.S. Undersecretary of State Steve Goldstein said."
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National Hero of Britain  Wrote: (03-13-2018 08:10 PM)
My prediction: Trump likes being the President. He likes the power, and he can feel Mueller getting closer -- I don't think it is unreasonable that he would try to start a major war to get this Russia thing off of his back and keep him in office. I think that is what the Saudi want, and they paid him more than Russia did.

Can he pull it off?

As incompetent as he is: I kind of doubt it. Not without major, major help from Deep State. It would have to be so lucrative for all major players that they would be willing to set this up for him.

Mueller is not getting closer...Mueller is an impotent goat. he has nothing....a year and all he got was 13 trolls?...give me a f*cking break....that was just to justify the multi millions they have pissed away on the witch hunt....

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old school russia hater, waaar

You’re stupid.

Seriously.
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I wasn't a fan of Tillerson, but I think he is level-headed and a heck of lot smarter than Pompeo. I also think Tillerson is real man of business who has been successful (something Donnie can't really claim), and Tillerson would rather keep friendly business climates in place than start wars.

Donnie has bad judgment and a vindictive, insecure personality. He appoints people based on their sucking up to him and agreeing with his viewpoints rather than on the person being the best one for the job.

He IS a moron.

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