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Socialism a proven a failure
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It's a failure when money and greed are still the strongest influence in America.

Very sad.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-14-2020 07:35 AM)
The world is an Orwellian nightmare now. The US is not a democracy. The government and illegal immigrants don't obey the law. You are on camera constantly, the Gestapo is everywhere, you must give your fingerprints to drive, you are being tracked by license plate readers, you'll be groped if you travel or go to a ball game, you must wear a microchip if you go to Disneyland, you cannot use the Internet if you don't have a phone and you can't get a phone without a facial scan, everything is illegal, the government is wiretapping you, you don't have free speech, you don't have the right to remain silent, you don't have religious rights, guns are banned, the government can steal your property, the government can extrajudicially assassinate you and torture you, the government can indefinitely detain you without trial, cash is illegal, and you cannot escape because the border is closed.

i still use cash. but everything else is true.

i have been schizophrenic for most of my life.. and wow .. maybe i am sane. because this sh*t is true.






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It's a failure when money and greed are still the strongest influence in America.

Very sad.

I am disappointed to say that .. trump..... very sad.

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Americans used to fight Commies and Nazis, but now have become Commies and Nazis.

Americans scream that trade wars are good and then are stunned when prices rise and exports fall.

Americans are so batshit insane now that they demand regulations and then are shocked when prices rise and the economy dies.

When the regulations and trade wars kill the economy, Americans demand welfare and bailouts, but do not have the mental capacity to understand why taxes increase.

Americans insist there must be wars, but then Americans are surprised that wars lead to debt, refugees, tyranny, and terrorism.

Americans say Obama was an evil asshole for supporting wars, debt, and tyranny, but then turn around and say Trump is a holy god for embracing wars, debt, and the police state.

Americans want everything to be illegal, but are dumbfounded that crime increases and prisons become overcrowded.
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02-14-2020 07:46 AM

 




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It's a bit more than just socialsm (state capitalism), the world is a proven failure.
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Americans want to live in a happy paradise with high wages, no guns, no blacks, no Muslims, no illegal immigrants, no beggars, no smokers, no straws, and no flag-burning, but how did tyranny work out for the USSR?

Do you really want to live in a world where everyone is a mindless sheep, everyone has the same thinking, and everyone wears the same clothes?
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I wouldn't support the sort of touted "socialist" state, nor "capitalist" states, because in both cases, the hierarchies are basically identical and they are both fundamentally corporate and industrialist states.

The only difference being that in the "socialist" state, the state acts mostly as the corporations, in the "capitalist" state, corporations dictate state.

And you would do well to notice that often "capitalist" and "socialist" states collude (say, with proxy wars, though still trading, etc) and are against the citizenry.
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LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-14-2020 07:35 AM)
The world is an Orwellian nightmare now. The US is not a democracy. The government and illegal immigrants don't obey the law. You are on camera constantly, the Gestapo is everywhere, you must give your fingerprints to drive, you are being tracked by license plate readers, you'll be groped if you travel or go to a ball game, you must wear a microchip if you go to Disneyland, you cannot use the Internet if you don't have a phone and you can't get a phone without a facial scan, everything is illegal, the government is wiretapping you, you don't have free speech, you don't have the right to remain silent, you don't have religious rights, guns are banned, the government can steal your property, the government can extrajudicially assassinate you and torture you, the government can indefinitely detain you without trial, cash is illegal, and you cannot escape because the border is closed.

It doesn't seem to bother most people.

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02-14-2020 07:59 AM

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Post: #25
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Democracy is not socialism or communism.
In fact if managed properly keeps that more extreme ,unhealthy politics away
It has been intentionally mismanaged and made unsustainable by corporate authoritarians. It is those that wish to destroy healthy governments and their followers that attach extreme labels onto social programs and public purpose spending .. thought terminating cliches to sell fear.

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Americans want to live in a happy paradise with high wages, no guns, no blacks, no Muslims, no illegal immigrants, no beggars, no smokers, no straws, and no flag-burning, but how did tyranny work out for the USSR?

Do you really want to live in a world where everyone is a mindless sheep, everyone has the same thinking, and everyone wears the same clothes?

I AM.....an American.

I reject what you say "I want"

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I wouldn't support the sort of touted "socialist" state, nor "capitalist" states, because in both cases, the hierarchies are basically identical and they are both fundamentally corporate and industrialist states.

The only difference being that in the "socialist" state, the state acts mostly as the corporations, in the "capitalist" state, corporations dictate state.

And you would do well to notice that often "capitalist" and "socialist" states collude (say, with proxy wars, though still trading, etc) and are against the citizenry.

Trump and Putin are colluding. Probably Kim too.

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Socialism a proven a failure

https://www.nwfdailynews.com/opinion/201...en-failure

Show me one true Socialist State that has failed. Not an Oligarchy or Autocracy, but a true 100% Socialist state, and then prove that it failed.
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The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
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Socialism a proven a failure

https://www.nwfdailynews.com/opinion/201...en-failure

Show me one true Socialist State that has failed. Not an Oligarchy or Autocracy, but a true 100% Socialist state, and then prove that it failed.

you and I know there has never been one.. chuckle

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