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Socialism a proven a failure
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The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

eventually the Rich will run out of the middle class money.

Then.. Revolution.

It happens over and over again.

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Confucius say, every gloyhole have two side
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Post: #34
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Americans are so batshit insane now that they scream that the US needs welfare that rewards laziness and regulations and taxes that punish hard work and then are stunned that there are homeless pooping on the sidewalk.
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Americans are so batshit insane now that they scream that the US needs welfare that rewards laziness and regulations and taxes that punish hard work and then are stunned that there are homeless pooping on the sidewalk.

it is insane how all of the wealth goes to about 300 families and then most bit*h about how the poor can't get food, shelter, or a place to poop.

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spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (02-14-2020 07:59 AM)
Democracy is not socialism or communism.
In fact if managed properly keeps that more extreme ,unhealthy politics away
It has been intentionally mismanaged and made unsustainable by corporate authoritarians. It is those that wish to destroy healthy governments and their followers that attach extreme labels onto social programs and public purpose spending .. thought terminating cliches to sell fear.

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LoP Guest  Wrote: (02-14-2020 08:05 AM)
Show me one true Socialist State that has failed. Not an Oligarchy or Autocracy, but a true 100% Socialist state, and then prove that it failed.

you and I know there has never been one.. chuckle

Even though you obviously wear Saran Wrap pants, it doesn't mean you're completely stupid.

It is the irony of everyone who complains about Socialism being a failure. There has never been a Socialist state...with the slight possible exception of Amish and Mennonite Communities which practice a form of Christian Socialism, but they aren't a "State"
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The elites keep tightening the screws building the police state. A few nutjobs will go postal and the 1% will use these events to tighten the noose some more.

The ruling class will use recessions to call for more bailouts and welfare to make Americans weak and dependent. The elites will then use their control of the media to spread propaganda that the economy is booming. The 1% will keep using this plan until the Ponzi economy implodes.

After the economy collapses, cash will be worthless, ATM cards won't work, bank accounts will be zeroed out, there will be inflation, deflation, banks will shut, bankruptcies and foreclosures will rise, businesses will close, unemployment will soar, there will be bail-ins, capital controls, negative interest rates, bank runs, bank holidays, gold may be outlawed, riots will break out, martial law will be declared, concentration camps will be opened, a civil war will start, and the ruling powers will try to start WWIII with China, Russia, North Korea, and Iran to distract the population.

The future is certain. The only question is when.
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Socialism a proven a failure

https://www.nwfdailynews.com/opinion/201...en-failure

Show me one true Socialist State that has failed. Not an Oligarchy or Autocracy, but a true 100% Socialist state, and then prove that it failed.

All socialist states fail. All socialist states are autocracies. The definition of socialist or communist mode , Marx used the terms interchangeably, is that the means of production, distribution and exchange are taken out of private hands.

Now it turns out that in order to achieve this you have to start by bayonetting the Tsars children in a basement, pretty soon you need to kill 10 million smallholding farmers, the Kulaks, trade unionists and strikers, journalists, the middle class, anyone who is having second thoughts about the socialist paradise for not being "politically correct" then you can add many million more in Mao's cultural revolution and the killing fields of Cambodia's year zero where you could qualify for death by virtue of having an education.

Depriving people of their property means depriving them of their freedom and legal rights. By definition all socialist states must be autocratic, their is no other way of seizing the means of production and it turns out that once you take peoples liberty and property, taking their lives is just a short step further.

That's why all socialist states are autocratic and murderous. That's why there has never been this fabled socialist state that is powered by rainbows and hugs. That's why socialism has racked up over 100 million bodies in the last century.

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Post: #42
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Americans have learned nothing from history.

Rome was an immoral bankrupt, warmongering, tyrannical empire. Now the US is an immoral bankrupt, warmongering, tyrannical empire.
The US stock market crashed in 1929 and the USA made the depression worse by having a trade war. The US economy collapsed in 2008 and now the US will make the depression worse by having another trade war.

The US was stuck in a quagmire in Vietnam and now the US is stuck in quagmires in Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia, Yemen, and Niger.

The USSR was a police state where everything was illegal so the Russians gave up and the Soviet Union collapsed. Now the US is a police state where everything is illegal so Americans have given up and the US will collapse.
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Socialism a proven a failure

https://www.nwfdailynews.com/opinion/201...en-failure
We alreadyHAVE SOCIALISM! You can call it what you want but it’s socialism now with most the money going to the rich! WAKE UP
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Post: #44
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Looks like the elites have won everything. The globalists got bailouts, turned the US into a police state, increased the debt, and have launched endless wars and Americans walk around like zombies thinking everything is just fine.

Americans think that they have perfect safety and believe tyranny only applies to others.

Not only have Commies lost their right to protest, but you did, too.

Not only have Nazis lost their right to own a gun, but you did, too.

Not only do drunk-drivers and illegal aliens need to go through checkpoints, but you do, too.

Not only can junkies have their property forfeited, but you can, too.

Not only Muslims can be groped by the TSA, be indefinitely detained without trial, be extra-judicially assassinated, and be wiretapped by the NSA, but you can, too.

One bad thing about the US collapse is the waiting for this nightmare to end.

The USA gets worse by the minute.

What can you do now? Vote?

Americans stab themselves in their eyes with icepicks and then become outraged that icepicks are not illegal.

When will the stock market crash?

Why can't the debt be paid down?

Why doesn't the US default on the debt?

Why can't smoking laws be repealed?

Why aren't the wars ended?

Why don't Americans get into the streets and break windows?

Why don't Americans fire on police stations?

Why don't states secede?

You can either pay taxes that fund wars, debt, or tyranny or dropout and break the law by not paying taxes.

Do Americans feel like guilty cowards now?

What are Americans waiting for? Do you think tomorrow will be better?
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Post: #45
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BS, socialism has made the privatization pigs trillions...from military to cops to firefighters to unions to banks and so many more, these ALL rely on a socialist mentality for their gains and power...even run of the mill private businesses rely on socialism or else they would have no customers, everyone would bevjustbkilling each other to survive as animals do...as they do to those that get out of their decreed socialist order...
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