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Should everyone have their own personal hospital ventilator inside their home?
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RE: Should everyone have their own personal hospital ventilator inside their home?
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Natura Naturans  Wrote: (03-26-2020 02:40 AM)
Ventilators are not do-it-yourself machines. They require another person knowledgable to operate them. And many people are injured by the tube. People are usuall on them for about two weeks, and it is difficult to remove. So NO, no home ventilators.

For sure, but I could imagine entrepreneurs setting up companies whose main function is to help people install, maintain and clean the home-use ventilator machines. This would be legitimate coronavirus capitalism. Jhikpghf
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Post: #17
RE: Should everyone have their own personal hospital ventilator inside their home?
Spiddy  Wrote: (03-26-2020 02:05 AM)
You ever tried to program a CPAP?
No?
If you did you'd understand why rednecks shouldn't own them.
Don't even get me started on arterial blood gas analysis.

They should be available to people without a prescription silly. Most of them are auto-adjusting these days and don't need to be programmed. They monitor your breathing and self-adjust the pressures to minimize apneic events while you sleep. Sowwy. No longer need your services
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Post: #18
RE: Should everyone have their own personal hospital ventilator inside their home?
LOP Secret Agent  Wrote: (03-26-2020 02:43 AM)
Natura Naturans  Wrote: (03-26-2020 02:40 AM)
Ventilators are not do-it-yourself machines. They require another person knowledgable to operate them. And many people are injured by the tube. People are usuall on them for about two weeks, and it is difficult to remove. So NO, no home ventilators.

For sure, but I could imagine entrepreneurs setting up companies whose main function is to help people install, maintain and clean the home-use ventilator machines. This would be legitimate coronavirus capitalism. Jhikpghf

no.. what you are trying to do ,is spin is misinformation.

Like this climate change denying fuckhead^

you are trying to push the narrative that this
virus pandemic is less severe than what it is and it's victims that are critical could be looked after at home and minimizing the soon to be overrun hospitals.
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RE: Should everyone have their own personal hospital ventilator inside their home?
spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (03-26-2020 02:48 AM)
LOP Secret Agent  Wrote: (03-26-2020 02:43 AM)
For sure, but I could imagine entrepreneurs setting up companies whose main function is to help people install, maintain and clean the home-use ventilator machines. This would be legitimate coronavirus capitalism. Jhikpghf

no.. what you are trying to do ,is spin is misinformation.

Like this climate change denying fuckhead^

you are trying to push the narrative that this
virus pandemic is less severe than what it is and it's victims that are critical could be looked after at home and minimizing the soon to be overrun hospitals.

You are living in a fantasy world
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spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (03-26-2020 02:48 AM)
no.. what you are trying to spin is misinformation.

Like this climate change denying fuckhead^

you are trying to push the narrative that this
virus pandemic is less severe than what it is and it's victims that are critical could be looked after at home and minimizing the soon to be overrun hospitals.

For now, I think it's only possible for very rich people, and can't be done for ordinary folks. I don't intend to minimize the role of hospitals. However, if the coronavirus epidemic goes on for much longer than expected, economic conditions could change and there's a chance that this might become more available. Jhikpghf
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Post: #21
RE: Should everyone have their own personal hospital ventilator inside their home?
LoP Guest  Wrote: (03-26-2020 02:44 AM)
Spiddy  Wrote: (03-26-2020 02:05 AM)
You ever tried to program a CPAP?
No?
If you did you'd understand why rednecks shouldn't own them.
Don't even get me started on arterial blood gas analysis.

They should be available to people without a prescription silly. Most of them are auto-adjusting these days and don't need to be programmed. They monitor your breathing and self-adjust the pressures to minimize apneic events while you sleep. Sowwy. No longer need your services

Fair enough, I've been out of the game awhile.
Self intubation sounds like a b*tch though.
Do they have a machine to do that too?



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Looks to me like; back tracking and called out.. he is now claiming millionaires could get them and a team of technicians on the cheap.
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spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (03-26-2020 03:02 AM)
Looks to me like; back tracking and called out.. he is now claiming millionaires could get them and a team of technicians on the cheap.

With a bit of socialism, aka mass-production in government factories and also purchase subsidies, it's possible more people could eventually afford it. Plus technicians on the cheap. Jhikpghf
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Post: #24
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I've got my Iron Lung all waxed up and ready to go.



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spɹɐʍoɔ snoɯʎuouɐ  Wrote: (03-26-2020 02:48 AM)
you are trying to push the narrative that this virus pandemic is less severe than what it is a

I'm doing the exact opposite because I'm trying to envision how people would survive in a not-so-distant future where all hospitals are completely overrun with patients. This amounts to a worst-case scenario, I'm not being optimistic at all. This scenario involves mass-producing ventilators in government factories and trying to figure out how to correctly use them outside hospitals.

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Post: #26
RE: Should everyone have their own personal hospital ventilator inside their home?
If anyone needs to insert an NG-tube, I can do it!
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Post: #27
RE: Should everyone have their own personal hospital ventilator inside their home?
I can also replace the button on a G-tube.

I could probably intubate another person for a ventilator with instructions.
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Post: #28
RE: Should everyone have their own personal hospital ventilator inside their home?
Good luck chump, all the spare ones on the market were bought out by wealthy people as insurance for themselves looooong ago.
Now suppliers are only selling them to hospitals and there is a massive worldwide shortage and backlog as supply can't keep up with demand.
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Post: #29
RE: Should everyone have their own personal hospital ventilator inside their home?
Don't CPAP machines act in some manner like ventilators? In that regard, I believe they produce positive air pressure to inflate the lungs, then reduce the pressure for exhale; repeat.
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Post: #30
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I have an air compressor in the garage with 30 gallon tank. I'm thinking I could rig that up to ventilate my lungs. It's oil-less so I think it should work. Does anyone know what I should set the PSI to?


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