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3rd Man arrested for Murder in Aberys Death
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general mishka  Wrote: (05-22-2020 07:49 PM)
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not a good Samaritan or simply a witness as Bryan has claimed, but a significant player in the February killing of the unarmed black man.

"If we believed he was a witness, we wouldn't have arrested him," GBI Director Vic Reynolds said Friday.

Their "belief" should not be so much weight as the "evidence".
They arrest people all the time who have done nothing. Right now this is a media frenzy, not so much interested in justice as getting their faces in the media.

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Oh the twists and turns and drama just like every other fake ass divide and conquer psyop they lay on us.
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RE: 3rd Man arrested for Murder in Aberys Death
v³Exceed  Wrote: (05-22-2020 07:55 PM)
general mishka  Wrote: (05-22-2020 07:49 PM)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gbi-sa...spartanntp

not a good Samaritan or simply a witness as Bryan has claimed, but a significant player in the February killing of the unarmed black man.

"If we believed he was a witness, we wouldn't have arrested him," GBI Director Vic Reynolds said Friday.

Their "belief" should not be so much weight as the "evidence".
They arrest people all the time who have done nothing. Right now this is a media frenzy, not so much interested in justice as getting their faces in the media.

Kettle meet pot.

Arbery committed no crime on film nor in front of witnesses. If no crime was committed then Arbery was false imprisoned and then murdered. That's what the evidence proves.
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GrimShaw  Wrote: (05-22-2020 08:57 PM)
v³Exceed  Wrote: (05-22-2020 07:55 PM)
Their "belief" should not be so much weight as the "evidence".
They arrest people all the time who have done nothing. Right now this is a media frenzy, not so much interested in justice as getting their faces in the media.

Kettle meet pot.

Arbery committed no crime on film nor in front of witnesses. If no crime was committed then Arbery was false imprisoned and then murdered. That's what the evidence proves.

Actually the evidence shows him attacking the guy holding the shotgun and then getting shot first in the hand then in the body..both by his own actions.

There was no false imprisonment, he was witnessed exiting the house under renovation by people who had previous experience with Arbery's criminal past. He wasn't murdered so much as accidentally killed by himself.

Of course we see what we see. Time will out, but much like the Zimmerman case, the media is more concerned with sensationalism than truth.

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v³Exceed  Wrote: (05-22-2020 09:01 PM)
GrimShaw  Wrote: (05-22-2020 08:57 PM)
Kettle meet pot.

Arbery committed no crime on film nor in front of witnesses. If no crime was committed then Arbery was false imprisoned and then murdered. That's what the evidence proves.

Actually the evidence shows him attacking the guy holding the shotgun and then getting shot first in the hand then in the body..both by his own actions.

There was no false imprisonment, he was witnessed exiting the house under renovation by people who had previous experience with Arbery's criminal past. He wasn't murdered so much as accidentally killed by himself.

Of course we see what we see. Time will out, but much like the Zimmerman case, the media is more concerned with sensationalism than truth.

Yeah that doesn't matter. They deprived him of his rights by falsely imprisoning him. No one saw him commit a crime. No camera footage shows him committing a crime. Citizen's arrest does not apply.

Arbery was the only one in that situation that was justified in the use of lethal force. If he were armed and killed his assailants he'd have been justified under Georgia law. That's what the evidence shows.
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GrimShaw  Wrote: (05-22-2020 09:05 PM)
v³Exceed  Wrote: (05-22-2020 09:01 PM)
Actually the evidence shows him attacking the guy holding the shotgun and then getting shot first in the hand then in the body..both by his own actions.

There was no false imprisonment, he was witnessed exiting the house under renovation by people who had previous experience with Arbery's criminal past. He wasn't murdered so much as accidentally killed by himself.

Of course we see what we see. Time will out, but much like the Zimmerman case, the media is more concerned with sensationalism than truth.

Yeah that doesn't matter. They deprived him of his rights by falsely imprisoning him. No one saw him commit a crime. No camera footage shows him committing a crime. Citizen's arrest does not apply.

Arbery was the only one in that situation that was justified in the use of lethal force. If he were armed and killed his assailants he'd have been justified under Georgia law. That's what the evidence shows.

The independent investigator(s) that arrested these three men and the prosecutor(s) that charged them with murder are the only people that have all of the information of the coroners report and the angle of fire and the best information on the timing of the shootings. It was three shots fired. They are going to build a case based on the facts, it is telling that they did charge all three of these guys with murder, so they think the facts side with that.
Everybody that is saying what they think happened is not privy to the facts that the investigators and prosecutors have.

Let us see if the trial evidence is convincing of murder.

Until then all we have are a few facts and lots of opinions.

It will be an interesting trial. I doubt they would have charged these three with murder if it was going to be easy for their defense lawyer(s) to claim self defense.

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He Man  Wrote: (05-22-2020 10:33 PM)
GrimShaw  Wrote: (05-22-2020 09:05 PM)
Yeah that doesn't matter. They deprived him of his rights by falsely imprisoning him. No one saw him commit a crime. No camera footage shows him committing a crime. Citizen's arrest does not apply.

Arbery was the only one in that situation that was justified in the use of lethal force. If he were armed and killed his assailants he'd have been justified under Georgia law. That's what the evidence shows.

The independent investigator(s) that arrested these three men and the prosecutor(s) that charged them with murder are the only people that have all of the information of the coroners report and the angle of fire and the best information on the timing of the shootings. It was three shots fired. They are going to build a case based on the facts, it is telling that they did charge all three of these guys with murder, so they think the facts side with that.
Everybody that is saying what they think happened is not privy to the facts that the investigators and prosecutors have.

Let us see if the trial evidence is convincing of murder.

Until then all we have are a few facts and lots of opinions.

It will be an interesting trial. I doubt they would have charged these three with murder if it was going to be easy for their defense lawyer(s) to claim self defense.

Its not self defense, but it isn't murder. Its manslaughter, and the trial will determine voluntary or involuntary

The guy shooting the video? Murder? C'mon

They would really need something like a text ordering the men to shoot the kid. Which of course means, he would have destroyed his phone before giving it up willing to the police
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v³Exceed  Wrote: (05-22-2020 07:54 PM)
Isabella  Wrote: (05-22-2020 07:08 PM)
You just make up sh*t as you go along trying to get the legal outcome that you want... Rofl

Here's your FELONY!
An imbecile and his truck!

"criminal attempt to commit false imprisonment."

Wow you are reaching for sh*t... "Attempt to commit false imprisonment?" They forced the "jogger" into the truck?... no... they forced the jogger to attack the guy holding the shotgun?... no...

The felony, according to Georgia law, was the criminal trespass with intent to steal.... that was the "jogger".... the actual criminal in this case.

Unlawful imprisonment does not mean you have to actual do anything other than unlawfully detain someone. Not put them in a van or anything, also this man appears to been armed at the time and basically played back up. And you approached and surround me with guns I'll probably go after you too, at that point its rights to survival. Btw he shot him in the back, obviously not in self defense of anything kind.
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general mishka  Wrote: (05-22-2020 10:53 PM)
He Man  Wrote: (05-22-2020 10:33 PM)
The independent investigator(s) that arrested these three men and the prosecutor(s) that charged them with murder are the only people that have all of the information of the coroners report and the angle of fire and the best information on the timing of the shootings. It was three shots fired. They are going to build a case based on the facts, it is telling that they did charge all three of these guys with murder, so they think the facts side with that.
Everybody that is saying what they think happened is not privy to the facts that the investigators and prosecutors have.

Let us see if the trial evidence is convincing of murder.

Until then all we have are a few facts and lots of opinions.

It will be an interesting trial. I doubt they would have charged these three with murder if it was going to be easy for their defense lawyer(s) to claim self defense.

Its not self defense, but it isn't murder. Its manslaughter, and the trial will determine voluntary or involuntary

The guy shooting the video? Murder? C'mon

They would really need something like a text ordering the men to shoot the kid. Which of course means, he would have destroyed his phone before giving it up willing to the police

You don't know what evidence they have on the this third guy that just got charged.

They may be convinced he should be charged, based on the evidence and hoping he will do a plea deal and give testimony on the two that were more directly involved in the murder.

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He Man  Wrote: (05-22-2020 10:57 PM)
general mishka  Wrote: (05-22-2020 10:53 PM)
Its not self defense, but it isn't murder. Its manslaughter, and the trial will determine voluntary or involuntary

The guy shooting the video? Murder? C'mon

They would really need something like a text ordering the men to shoot the kid. Which of course means, he would have destroyed his phone before giving it up willing to the police

You don't know what evidence they have on the this third guy that just got charged.

They may be convinced he should be charged, based on the evidence and hoping he will do a plea deal and give testimony on the two that were more directly involved in the murder.

That's Nazi tactics...over charging to get a plea deal
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v³Exceed  Wrote: (05-22-2020 07:54 PM)
Isabella  Wrote: (05-22-2020 07:08 PM)
You just make up sh*t as you go along trying to get the legal outcome that you want... Rofl

Here's your FELONY!
An imbecile and his truck!

"criminal attempt to commit false imprisonment."

Wow you are reaching for sh*t... "Attempt to commit false imprisonment?" They forced the "jogger" into the truck?... no... they forced the jogger to attack the guy holding the shotgun?... no...

The felony, according to Georgia law, was the criminal trespass with intent to steal.... that was the "jogger".... the actual criminal in this case.

ffs!

There is NO felony charge of criminal trespassing for his entering the structure and there is NO felony charge for material goods that according to you he had the INTENTION of stealing.

You need to email the prosecutor who charged him and tell then they're "reaching for sh*t! Rofl

"criminal attempt to commit false imprisonment


"William ‘Roddy’ Bryan claimed that he was not involved in the murder of Ahmaud Arbery, but this new video clearly shows that he hunted Ahmaud for more than four minutes prior to his death.


While he may not have pulled the trigger, he was clearly complicit, using his vehicle to stalk, threaten and trap Ahmaud for execution,”
attorney Crump concluded."

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v³Exceed  Wrote: (05-22-2020 06:40 PM)
general mishka  Wrote: (05-22-2020 06:32 PM)
My memory is coming back to me...it goes like this

In the course of a felony, if someone is killed, all participating in the felony are guilty of murder. So they found something on the phone linking him to the other two

How are they going to prove the video maker had felonious intent? What was the felony in a Citizens Arrest?

Anything short of a text showing he wanted harm to come to the kid, doesn't work

This has the ring of he Zimmerman trial. Obviously this isn't the same, but we are seeing the public "demand" a trial where the people involved really shouldn't be tried.

Now "shouldn't" and will be are two very different things. In Canada, everyone gets arrested, then the courts figure it out. By the courts I mean the prosecutor tries to figure out if he has a hope in hell of a real conviction. The trial process can last years, so by the time it actually goes to trail the public has mostly calmed down.

I think people should take a long hard look at crime. decide what they are willing to put up with, and stop it there. It doesn't matter what color the person is, it matters if they are a career criminal. This guy... career criminal and the family getting their 15 minutes of fame.


what crimes are you talking about? link it or GTFO
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RE: 3rd Man arrested for Murder in Aberys Death
v³Exceed  Wrote: (05-22-2020 07:54 PM)
Isabella  Wrote: (05-22-2020 07:08 PM)
You just make up sh*t as you go along trying to get the legal outcome that you want... Rofl

Here's your FELONY!
An imbecile and his truck!

"criminal attempt to commit false imprisonment."

Wow you are reaching for sh*t... "Attempt to commit false imprisonment?" They forced the "jogger" into the truck?... no... they forced the jogger to attack the guy holding the shotgun?... no...

The felony, according to Georgia law, was the criminal trespass with intent to steal.... that was the "jogger".... the actual criminal in this case.


he didnt steal anything
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RE: 3rd Man arrested for Murder in Aberys Death
v³Exceed  Wrote: (05-22-2020 09:01 PM)
GrimShaw  Wrote: (05-22-2020 08:57 PM)
Kettle meet pot.

Arbery committed no crime on film nor in front of witnesses. If no crime was committed then Arbery was false imprisoned and then murdered. That's what the evidence proves.

Actually the evidence shows him attacking the guy holding the shotgun and then getting shot first in the hand then in the body..both by his own actions.

There was no false imprisonment, he was witnessed exiting the house under renovation by people who had previous experience with Arbery's criminal past. He wasn't murdered so much as accidentally killed by himself.

Of course we see what we see. Time will out, but much like the Zimmerman case, the media is more concerned with sensationalism than truth.


i'd attack someone if they pointed a shotgun at me for no reason..what you're really saying is stand your ground law doesnt apply to black people. the only reason zimmerfat got off is his fathers connections to corrupt friends in high places
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general mishka  Wrote: (05-22-2020 10:59 PM)
He Man  Wrote: (05-22-2020 10:57 PM)
You don't know what evidence they have on the this third guy that just got charged.

They may be convinced he should be charged, based on the evidence and hoping he will do a plea deal and give testimony on the two that were more directly involved in the murder.

That's Nazi tactics...over charging to get a plea deal

Nope, I was not saying they were overcharging. Plea deals put many criminals away in prison, and they often save lots of court time and money. They are often the best way to get to justice.

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